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sheepdean
11-13-2012, 03:32 PM
I thought we cracked that, it has something to do with angels and the bible or something. idk, my question barely got noticed and it was actually relevant and shit

jessamineny
11-13-2012, 03:34 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil_%28magic%29

Yes?

jrdsctt
11-13-2012, 03:57 PM
I thought we cracked that, it has something to do with angels and the bible or something. idk, my question barely got noticed and it was actually relevant and shit

What did you ask?

jrdsctt
11-13-2012, 04:00 PM
Since so many people on here are really digging Ice Age, here is Trent talking a little bit about the track: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/134vgv/i_am_trent_reznor_of_nine_inch_nails_and_how_to/c70t69v

jrdsctt
11-13-2012, 05:59 PM
Also, (for all the creepers out there) Mariqueen just made her Instagram feed public: http://instagram.com/mariqueenmaandigreznor

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-13-2012, 06:29 PM
So, kinda unrelated, but if anybody knows where I might find a link to that film version of IYLSE, I'd really appreciate it.

Received! :D Thank you!

henryeatscereal
11-13-2012, 08:19 PM
"Ice Age" has to be one of the strangest songs Trent has ever done... I fuckin' love it!

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-13-2012, 10:37 PM
"The Loop Closes." MAN. I'm definitely happy with the direction they're taking this project. This EP is gonna get heavy rotation for quite a while.

I'm getting my rent payment back for this month, since I started working for my apartment complex and it pays my rent, and I'm considering stashing the full $350 away just for some rainy day concert money. Maybe I'll stash it for the day we finally get HTDA dates. (Granted, it wouldn't be until at least a little ways into next year, but hey. It'd be well worth it.)

butter_hole
11-14-2012, 12:31 AM
Also, (for all the creepers out there) Mariqueen just made her Instagram feed public: http://instagram.com/mariqueenmaandigreznor


photos: 1

daaang

BRoswell
11-14-2012, 12:32 AM
So, kinda unrelated, but if anybody knows where I might find a link to that film version of IYLSE, I'd really appreciate it.

You have a PM.

GibbonBlack
11-14-2012, 05:13 AM
I love that Trent just has to say '2013' and loads of you are like "HE JUST SAID NIN ARE TOURING IN 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!??!?!??!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!??!!!! !!!!". No he didn't. He said 2013 in response to a NIN touring question. That could mean anything from a new live cd is coming out to a book of touring photos or just about anything.....have you not learned anything from your time following Trent? It's probably only cryptic in the fact that it means 2015

danebraddy
11-14-2012, 06:17 AM
I love that Trent just has to say '2013' and loads of you are like "HE JUST SAID NIN ARE TOURING IN 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!??!?!??!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!??!!!! !!!!". No he didn't. He said 2013 in response to a NIN touring question. That could mean anything from a new live cd is coming out to a book of touring photos or just about anything.....have you not learned anything from your time following Trent? It's probably only cryptic in the fact that it means 2015

I tend to think it's NIN touring (or at least 'live'), only due to the rumors that surfaced last week re: NIN live in 2013.
I also kinda think the 'two bands' he are rehearsing with would be HTDA and NIN, I doubt they'd do a double header - then again, NIN would get asses on seats for HTDA and artists have done stuff like that in the past (Grinderman / Nick Cave double bill for example)

GibbonBlack
11-14-2012, 06:47 AM
I tend to think it's NIN touring (or at least 'live'), only due to the rumors that surfaced last week re: NIN live in 2013.
I also kinda think the 'two bands' he are rehearsing with would be HTDA and NIN, I doubt they'd do a double header - then again, NIN would get asses on seats for HTDA and artists have done stuff like that in the past (Grinderman / Nick Cave double bill for example)

I'm not saying those people are wrong. I'm saying they aren't even speculating. His response of '2013' now, to them, means NIN are touring in 2013

somewhat_
11-14-2012, 10:39 AM
I'm not saying those people are wrong. I'm saying they aren't even speculating. His response of '2013' now, to them, means NIN are touring in 2013

It's all lined up for us:

(a) Trent states in Rolling Stone that NIN material is being worked on and touring isn't out of the question

(b) Rumors start flying around on the internet about NIN playing Coachella and how NIN are booking tour dates for 2013 (yeah, I know anybody can make this shit up, but was anyone making this up in 2010, 2011, 2012?)

(c) In the Reddit AMA a fan asked about LITS stage setup and then tells Trent about how he would love to see NIN live again: Trent ends his response with: "Cryptic additional comment: 2013"

(d) In the Reddit AMA Trent states he is rehearsing with two bands and working with Roy (Bennett) - who just happened to help with the stage setup for LITS

There is nothing else to speculate about - NIN is touring in 2013.

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-14-2012, 12:50 PM
Rob just posted a link to his gallery of glitch artwork he came up with while working on HTDA artwork. He'll have prints available early next year.

http://rob-sheridan.com/analog/one.html

http://rob-sheridan.com/analog/analog01.jpg

GibbonBlack
11-14-2012, 09:22 PM
It's all lined up for us:

(a) Trent states in Rolling Stone that NIN material is being worked on and touring isn't out of the question

(b) Rumors start flying around on the internet about NIN playing Coachella and how NIN are booking tour dates for 2013 (yeah, I know anybody can make this shit up, but was anyone making this up in 2010, 2011, 2012?)

(c) In the Reddit AMA a fan asked about LITS stage setup and then tells Trent about how he would love to see NIN live again: Trent ends his response with: "Cryptic additional comment: 2013"

(d) In the Reddit AMA Trent states he is rehearsing with two bands and working with Roy (Bennett) - who just happened to help with the stage setup for LITS

There is nothing else to speculate about - NIN is touring in 2013.

I agree with the thinking. I just won't speak it as fact untill it is officially confirmed

jrdsctt
11-15-2012, 03:16 PM
Wall papers for all your gadgets:

Zip file: http://t.co/YUw6wP4m

Flicker stream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/howtodestroyangels/sets/

gorast
11-16-2012, 01:01 AM
If I see one more dumbass tweeting HTDA begging for a CD release of An omen EP_ I'm gonna flip a table.

Frozen Beach
11-16-2012, 02:33 AM
If I see one more dumbass tweeting HTDA begging for a CD release of An omen EP_ I'm gonna flip a table.
If that ends up happening, will you please film it and put Trent singing "I AM THE GREAT DESTROYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH" over it?

jessamineny
11-16-2012, 09:04 AM
Got the e-mail from HTDA about the new EP. Look what they did to the last names. hahahahaha


An omen EP_ (http://t.opsp.in/b0PG5) is the brand new release from How to destroy angels_ (http://t.opsp.in/g0Q7l) (Mariqueen maandig, Trent reznor, Atticus ross, Rob sheridan). You can download it directly from us at store.destroyangels.com (http://t.opsp.in/n0P38)

Vertigo
11-16-2012, 12:27 PM
Maybe those are their Latin names.

gorast
11-16-2012, 12:44 PM
If that ends up happening, will you please film it and put Trent singing "I AM THE GREAT DESTROYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH" over it?
Yes, definitely. 1 million views on Youtube.

FernandoDante
11-16-2012, 01:08 PM
Got the e-mail from HTDA about the new EP. Look what they did to the last names. hahahahaha


An omen EP_ (http://t.opsp.in/b0PG5) is the brand new release from How to destroy angels_ (http://t.opsp.in/g0Q7l) (Mariqueen maandig, Trent reznor, Atticus ross, Rob sheridan). You can download it directly from us at store.destroyangels.com (http://t.opsp.in/n0P38)

So they're abandoning the CD AND uppercase.

jessamineny
11-16-2012, 01:27 PM
Maybe those are their Latin names.

I so wish I could like that multiple times. Can't. Stop. Laughing. :D

BenAkenobi
11-16-2012, 02:32 PM
If I see one more dumbass tweeting HTDA begging for a CD release of An omen EP_ I'm gonna flip a table.

what's the point in begging?
http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii574/benakenobi/Photo-0005.jpg

sheepdean
11-16-2012, 02:39 PM
How to troll ets_

bgalbraith
11-17-2012, 09:21 AM
So I'm participating in 24-hour hackathon in Boston this weekend. In deciding which NIN shirt to wear, I ended up grabbing my HTDA shirt instead to do some buzz marketing. It wasn't until after I got there that I realized the amusing connection - I'm at AngelHack with a How To Destroy Angels shirt.

gorast
11-18-2012, 01:13 AM
Several tweets from Rob showed up in my RSS feed earlier in regards to Sigil 1, and were deleted afterwards. The gist of them was that A Drowning was supposed to be a 7'' vinyl release, but was scrapped for whatever reason, and HTDA just left the spot open. Digital singles are considered promos and don't get Sigil numbers, which is why Keep it together didn't get one and A Drowning did.

http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh501/Somedude179/sheridan.png

Is there a reason these were deleted/aren't showing up on Twitter?

sheepdean
11-18-2012, 04:49 AM
Yeah, Rob deletes certain things from twitter after tweeting them, probably for a variety of reason. If this was top secret shit, he wouldn't have publicly tweeted anyway of course.

gorast
11-18-2012, 11:47 AM
I wonder if they're planning a release of A Drowning with some sort of unheard b-side...that would be cool. Maybe as a Record Store Day exclusive.

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-18-2012, 04:31 PM
So, I saw this posted on my way off campus today. Tempted to yank it off the bulletin board next time I'm by there.

(Really sorry it's so huge!)

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/178945_10151288291705935_296615805_n.jpg

jessamineny
11-18-2012, 04:40 PM
I wonder if they're planning a release of A Drowning with some sort of unheard b-side...that would be cool. Maybe as a Record Store Day exclusive.

Nah, the single is more than two and a half years old.

sheepdean
11-18-2012, 05:02 PM
So, I saw this posted on my way off campus today. Tempted to yank it off the bulletin board next time I'm by there.

(Really sorry it's so huge!)

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/178945_10151288291705935_296615805_n.jpg
Damn I want one. Badly.

eversonpoe
11-18-2012, 10:10 PM
Damn I want one. Badly.

want what? the image is gone...

sheepdean
11-19-2012, 07:33 AM
One of these (yes, I'm the "1 sold") http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221154131770

ninperu
11-19-2012, 09:08 AM
i'm the 2nd...

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-19-2012, 10:47 PM
Alright...so...I may or may not have carefully pulled that poster off the wall on campus...and I may or may not have replaced it with my own. You know, because I still want people to check out the EP. I'm not an artist, don't judge me!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/87401650@N06/8200849248/sizes/n/

gorast
11-19-2012, 11:33 PM
A true masterpiece.

FernandoDante
11-20-2012, 06:37 AM
Alright...so...I may or may not have carefully pulled that poster off the wall on campus...and I may or may not have replaced it with my own. You know, because I still want people to check out the EP. I'm not an artist, don't judge me!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/87401650@N06/8200849248/sizes/n/
Thank you for not complying with the lowercase crap!

laz001
11-20-2012, 08:39 AM
Alrea: that's funny! Nice replacement poster though - maybe you should sell those on ebay?! ;-)

NotoriousTIMP
11-21-2012, 03:16 PM
So I've been listening to the first EP and I must admit, I like it more than the new one. Am I the only one who feels this way?

r_z
11-21-2012, 03:33 PM
No. See other thread.

Vertigo
11-21-2012, 04:49 PM
I much prefer EP1. I respect that they're branching out and being a bit more experimental with An Omen, but for me there's a lack of standout, 5-star material, and the second half of it ranges from forgettable to irritating. EP1 may be more what we're used to hearing from TR/AR, and Mariqueen doesn't scale the heights she manages with Ice Age, but it's packed with emotionally effecting songs and enjoyable hooks. I'm not hearing any emotion in the new release.

PQHooligan
11-22-2012, 02:53 PM
More of a spotting than a thought, and this may have been posted before, but oh well:

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/loudwire.com/files/2012/06/How-To-Destroy-Angels-Gif.gif

http://loudwire.com/how-to-destroy-angels-best-animated-album-covers/

Stereo75
11-22-2012, 09:54 PM
That needs a Terry Gilliam foot in there somewhere.;)

fillow
11-23-2012, 04:05 AM
I like the part where it goes all noisy and glitchy and reveals a man's figure in front of blurred blue background.

my voice just
11-23-2012, 06:05 PM
no-no, the best part was where obsessed atticus, after killing all other band members, took off his atticus mask and there was that squirrel from ice age!

FernandoDante
11-23-2012, 06:21 PM
One of the advantages of being at Columbia is having spambots going around spamming links to their Soundcloud via seemingly non-spam comments on music websites.

Yes, it's true.

EDIT: I dug a little deeper, and they might not be spambots, but people whose jobs are to go around posting links in comments, as a way to advertise the band. I think that might be even lamer. I'm not sure if anyone gives a shit, but I found at least four of these people with variants of the same, "hey I'm so excited for this project, go to amazon and buy it!" comment on stories about HTDA and other bands. I know they want to expand and all, but for a TR project, looking back on the Year Zero ARG and all that, I'd expect a cooler form of advertisement.

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-27-2012, 05:45 PM
What if there's a small video project for each track on the EP? It's probably pure coincidence that the first two videos are the first two tracks of the release, but it'd be really cool of they wanted to keep the momentum going with a video for all six songs, even if half of 'em are just them playing in the studio.

Gah, so excited for the "Ice Age" video.

Edit: My balls just imploded at the idea of a video for "The Loop Closes." Studio or otherwise.

johnhenry
11-28-2012, 10:34 AM
An Omen is my favorite collection of lost Morcheeba b-sides.

dominik
11-28-2012, 11:22 AM
An Omen is my favorite collection of lost Morcheeba b-sides.

are you fucking kidding me

zinfandel
11-29-2012, 10:53 AM
Ice age video:
Anyone get the writing on the floppy at the end?
Any idea what and if it's a reference to something.

The song sounds like it is written by Ian kurtis for Sheryl crow, but with good vocals , to state the obvious.
Definitely one of my favorite songs atm.

sheepdean
12-01-2012, 10:10 AM
HTDA was on the tumblr radar earlier (it's like trending on twitter, except tumblr mods handpick which posts to put on it)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mecynwdg011qbn738o1_400.jpg
I guess that's cool?

konstantin
12-01-2012, 07:05 PM
wish the media would start mentioning HTDA as "HTDA" and not "Trent Reznor's Project HTDA". it's getting old already. i understand it offers extra exposure, but some people may actually get turned off by TR's name being attached to it.

same goes for "Thom Yorke's Atom for Peace".

whatkilesaid
12-01-2012, 09:22 PM
Pretty far fetched but... Maybe whatever Trent is working on with Dre/Beats has to do with Coachella. Last year Beats was a sponsor at Coachella. They had an air conditioned room with couches where you can listen to the live music on Beats headphones. What if the two are collaborating on some interactive art installation/live show for the festival.

sheepdean
12-01-2012, 09:32 PM
It would suck so much if the big thing was limited to a small area of one state in one country that only a tiny number of people could use

Fixer808
12-01-2012, 11:24 PM
Pretty far fetched but... Maybe whatever Trent is working on with Dre/Beats has to do with Coachella. Last year Beats was a sponsor at Coachella. They had an air conditioned room with couches where you can listen to the live music on Beats headphones. What if the two are collaborating on some interactive art installation/live show for the festival.
I went to Coachella in 2001 and I sure as shit didn't drive 2300km to sit in a room and listen to the show over headphones. I could have stayed at home, put on some CDs and done that.

sheepdean
12-02-2012, 01:14 AM
Rob's on Honeymoon, Atticus is about to start press for Broken City, Trent is building a music spaceship with Dr Dre and Mariqueen is apparently taking in all the museums of America. And yet, I totally expect HTDA to drop something else sometime soon.

slave2thewage
12-03-2012, 03:42 PM
I've been drinking and I just re-watched the Ice age video and I think that I would go straight for Mariqueen.

bgalbraith
12-03-2012, 08:24 PM
Just got a sponsored tweet from VEVO for Ice Age.

240

dominik
12-04-2012, 06:12 AM
Trent commented on someone's status and told them to fuck themselves because they said the deadmau5 remix is what Trent should have done instead of the boring original version or something like that.

what a bunch of assholes. some guy wrote "maybe musicians with shitty lives make better outputs", and when Trent commented he wrote that it's sad that Trent can't take criticism because he's a "designer himself and also has to deal with a lot of criticism".

Frozen Beach
12-04-2012, 07:41 AM
Trent should stop reacting like a 12 year old to criticism unless he's purposely trying to be funny. It's embarrassing. I get that it's frustrating, but you have to keep a cool head. Counter criticism works a lot better than "FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCKY FUCK"

fillow
12-04-2012, 10:37 AM
I_ hate_ underscores_ ._

malamoney
12-07-2012, 12:10 PM
Perhaps I'm in the minority here and will probably be kicked in the teeth for saying so, but here's my opinion of HTDA.


Love the sound. Great beats, melodies, mixtures, transitions and sounds. It screams Trent Reznor all over it, and I love that. But, I think that it would be better having been all instrumental.


Now before anyone shits on me, let me say that this is not a dig on Mariqueen's singing abilities. She's actually pretty good. But my problem is, a song starts playing and right away my brain says "Trent Reznor... Nine Inch Nails... Sounds like it's gonna be pretty awesome..." And then in come the vocals from someone that is not Trent Reznor. It just doesn't sound right. It sounds like NIN being sung by someone else. And being a female voice is an even further departure from what I am expecting.


I guess if I can past expecting to hear Trent, or no vocals at all, it's pretty good. I'm just finding it very hard to do so...


Nonetheless, great to see Trent rolling along and I wish HTDA tremendous success...

gorast
12-07-2012, 02:20 PM
Sounds like a problem you need to sort out for yourself. I don't see NIN doing a song like Ice age (or Keep it together, or A Drowning, for that matter), but I guess some people just hear Trent too much in the music.

Fix your brain, man. Stop thinking of HTDA's music as Trent Reznor; think of it as the four people that it actually is.

jessamineny
12-07-2012, 02:27 PM
He doesn't need to sort anything out, or fix his brain, or stop thinking one way or start thinking another way. He hears the music the way he hears it, and it's just as valid as the way you hear it. (And he was very respectful -- and even complimentary -- in expressing his opinion as well.)

Or she. I have no idea if he's a dude.

malamoney
12-07-2012, 07:52 PM
Not much to fix my friend. I hear what I hear. Trent lays down a track and it sounds like his work. Can you really say you don't hear his style in the music?

And yes, I am a dude...

Frozen Beach
12-08-2012, 10:12 AM
I think next time is involved with a new project, he should pull a Richard D. James and not make it obvious he's involved.

Space Suicide
12-08-2012, 11:41 AM
I haven't downloaded, bought or listened to a thing from the new EP.

sheepdean
12-08-2012, 12:09 PM
I haven't downloaded, bought or listened to a thing from the new EP.
It's free ya know. Can it really hurt that bad to listen to a track?

Space Suicide
12-08-2012, 01:01 PM
It's free ya know. Can it really hurt that bad to listen to a track?

Nah just been too lazy to not to mention it hasn't sparked my immediate interest. I plan to one of these days.

eversonpoe
12-08-2012, 02:53 PM
I think next time is involved with a new project, he should pull a Richard D. James and not make it obvious he's involved.

to what Richard D James project are you referring?

Warped_Savant
12-09-2012, 10:16 AM
Nah just been too lazy to not to mention it hasn't sparked my immediate interest. I plan to one of these days.
Something that you haven't listened to hasn't caught your attention?

Do you expect to magically have things that you choose to ignore jump out at you?

Space Suicide
12-09-2012, 10:18 AM
Something that you haven't listened to hasn't caught your attention?

Do you expect to magically have things that you choose to ignore jump out at you?

Keep It Together didn't excite me when I heard it plus I'm not the biggest fan of HTDA's vocal direction.

So yeah, that explains it.

carpenoctem
12-09-2012, 11:33 AM
to what Richard D James project are you referring?

The Tuss perhaps?

Warped_Savant
12-09-2012, 11:46 AM
I haven't downloaded, bought or listened to a thing from the new EP.

Keep It Together didn't excite me when I heard it plus I'm not the biggest fan of HTDA's vocal direction.

So yeah, that explains it.
Do you now see what the contradiction is? Saying you haven't listened to anything from it and then saying that you listened to the first single and didn't like it... Simply saying what you mean at the beginning would've made a lot more sense. (IE: "I didn't like Keep it Together so I haven't bothered listening to the rest of the EP.")

Space Suicide
12-09-2012, 12:03 PM
Do you now see what the contradiction is? Saying you haven't listened to anything from it and then saying that you listened to the first single and didn't like it... Simply saying what you mean at the beginning would've made a lot more sense. (IE: "I didn't like Keep it Together so I haven't bothered listening to the rest of the EP.")

Contradiction to an extent but mostly boredom-induced memory loss.

I didn't really include Keep it Together with the EP in mention since it kinda served as a single, which lacked any vital punch.

I downloaded the EP yesterday. Yet to listen to it and doubt I'll be impressed to a large extent.

Your prodding has been noted.

Amnesiac
12-09-2012, 01:57 PM
An Omen is really growing on me. 'Speaking in Tongues' is just so ... sinister. It's hard to believe it won't be on the proper album next year.

BRoswell
12-09-2012, 03:02 PM
to what Richard D James project are you referring?

I think they're referring to a quote from an interview where he said that he's been involved with other albums that nobody knows about, and that nobody would realize he worked on them because they don't fit into the typical Aphex Twin style.

Damion
12-09-2012, 08:45 PM
Where is everyone downloading it for free? I see the option to download it from their site for $5.00 but nothing for free.

BenAkenobi
12-10-2012, 02:49 AM
Where is everyone downloading it for free? I see the option to download it from their site for $5.00 but nothing for free.

streaming on soundcloud (https://soundcloud.com/howtodestroyangels/sets/an-omen-ep-2012)

sheepdean
12-10-2012, 11:13 AM
No one said you can download it for free - but streaming it at WAV quality really should be enough

eskimo
12-12-2012, 02:41 PM
I just listened to Ice Age for the first time, and I liked it, which surprised me, since the first bit of HTDA that I head (I can't remember what it was called, but it was from quite a while ago) didn't do anything for me.

This was good.

botley
12-31-2012, 01:59 PM
So... just a couple of hours left for that "full-length LP in 2012" to not happen.

sheepdean
12-31-2012, 02:33 PM
Pretty sure they said Spring 2013 last time we checked :P

botley
12-31-2012, 03:15 PM
I'm referring to the sub-title of this forum...

butter_hole
12-31-2012, 09:45 PM
No one said you can download it for free - but streaming it at WAV quality really should be enough
p sure soundcloud streams at 128k bro

butter_hole
01-02-2013, 05:52 PM
just realized i think the drum machine in on the wing is the same preset/machine/whatever as the "hip hop" drums at the start of All the Love in the World?

eversonpoe
01-03-2013, 08:55 AM
just realized i think the drum machine in on the wing is the same preset/machine/whatever as the "hip hop" drums at the start of All the Love in the World?

it does have an extremely similar timbre. you might be right.

sheepdean
01-04-2013, 07:23 PM
Q posted on instagram a photo with the caption "the loop is closing". New video?
http://instagram.com/p/UEz3qAhuxU/

gorast
01-04-2013, 08:01 PM
Not the song I would've pegged to be the next one to get a video. Hopefully it'll be an interesting one.

sheepdean
01-04-2013, 08:10 PM
Nor I - would make an awesome beginning to a live set though

my voice just
01-04-2013, 08:25 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A_yussjCYAA5rtg.jpg:large

jessamineny
01-06-2013, 06:51 AM
Q posted on instagram a photo with the caption "the loop is closing". New video?
http://instagram.com/p/UEz3qAhuxU/

Or maybe each song on the album is getting its own image, a la The Slip?

jmtd
01-08-2013, 02:02 AM
Despite EP1 having artist "How To Destroy Angels" and EP2 having "How to destroy angels_", Amazon cloud player correctly groups them together in the artist view. How about that.

sheepdean
01-08-2013, 05:37 AM
Amazon knows better than to listen hipster bands and their avant-garde name changes.

my voice just
01-09-2013, 04:12 AM
Or maybe each song on the album is getting its own image, a la The Slip?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAI7MosCEAAYDH7.jpg:large
no

Eddie Diaz
01-13-2013, 12:19 AM
Is there a particular reason that Ice Age is their only video NOT available to download on Vimeo?

butter_hole
01-13-2013, 12:21 AM
wonder what ever happened to The Bug's contribution

sheepdean
01-13-2013, 12:35 AM
I guess that's on the LP?

jessamineny
01-13-2013, 08:07 AM
Is there a particular reason that Ice Age is their only video NOT available to download on Vimeo?

Perhaps because "Keep it Together" and "The Loop Closes" were created by the band, while "Ice Age" was directed/produced/filmed/edited/etc. by an outside crew. I know "The Space in Between" was as well, but that video might be available for download because it was filmed before the band was on a label, or because they had a different contract with the director/crew.

gorast
01-14-2013, 12:55 AM
A remix EP for Ice age in the same vein as the KIT one (featuring Soft Moon and Deadmau5) would be a glorious thing to have.

my voice just
01-14-2013, 05:16 PM
correct me if i`m wrong, but the concept behind the loop closes is that if you play this song on repeat - you`ll get perfect, endless, seamless loop, wich this track is not, because the beginning isn`t the same as the end

imail724
02-02-2013, 01:11 PM
I see the vimeo pages for The Loop Closes and Keep It Together both have links to download the videos, but Ice Age and How Long? do not. Does anyone know if there is anywhere to download these two without losing quality?

jessamineny
02-02-2013, 01:39 PM
You could try this (http://downloadvimeo.com/)

jessamineny
02-02-2013, 06:32 PM
The virus, apparently, is spreading :D (https://twitter.com/slicingeyeballs/status/297863563110916096)

kenthebear
02-04-2013, 09:35 AM
The virus, apparently, is spreading :D (https://twitter.com/slicingeyeballs/status/297863563110916096)

i was going to make a comment about the guy responding being a massive wanker saying 'hipster bs' when he claims to listen to old jewish jazz (??). i had a big post typed up and all.

anyway, looks like he's on a sex offender list, which explains the fact that he's a brony.

e: Looks like he's a nin fan, which means he might be reading this: you're a massive prick, mate

wizfan
02-04-2013, 10:04 AM
So, here's a part-personal, part-HDTA random thought:

I've been working on this weird little instrumental track lately. It's a mix of hip hop and some brass jazzy synths. I let my dad listen to a demo of the song, and he seemed to be uninterested to it. The reason, he said, was that he kept waiting for an "explosion" to happen, something like a crescendo, that my track felt like it was a bunch of intros. Now, here's the thing: I never intended for the song to have any crescendos, I just wanted it to be this smooth, background music, so while I appreciate his feedback, I felt he was criticizing me for not doing what I never wanted to do in the first place.

His response slightly reminded me of the criticism HTDA has been getting: I've been reading comments about how certain HTDA songs are all buildup and have no real payoff. I remember listening to Keep it Together along with my brother for the first time and we were both disappointed at how repetitive it felt. Ice Age can be really tiring if you listen to it this way, too; that is, if you keep waiting for that boom or something. I know I was tired the first time I heard it. However, once I realized its composition remains stagnant for all its seven minutes, I found myself enjoying it more and more. I learned not to just skip the first part as "just the intro to the big moment", but to appreciate the song as a whole.

I think that's what HTDA is trying to do. Not make songs based on the same old "loud-quiet-loud" dynamics of rock'n'roll, but lay somewhere in between them, in that "middle sound" that can be aggressive and haunting without being deafening or too discreet.

I've been used to Trent and Atticus's loop-based composition style since their soundtrack work, but it takes a while to get used to it when it is applied in a standard three-to-four minute pop song format. Enable a loop, disable a loop, replace it with another, disable them all and keep the beat, turn on the vocals, enable all loops again. While I'd like them to become a little bit more adventurous with the songwriting (which, in my opinion, is what made The Fragile such a compelling listen), I think this particular style has evolved well after listening to the recent HTDA tracks.

I'm hoping, though, that Welcome oblivion WILL have a big payoff; not in the form of a crescendo, but in terms of pure, avant-garde, totally fucked up songwriting that will break the mold of the loop-based structure that Trent has employed ever since Year Zero and will make our heads spinning.

Collin
02-13-2013, 11:07 PM
I was bored so I ranked all the released HTDA's songs so far from best to worst:

1. How Long?
2. A Drowning
3. Ice Age
4. On The Wing
5. The Space In Between
6. Is Your Love Strong Enough?
7. The Loop Closes
8. Keep It Together
9. Parasite
10. Speaking In Tongues
11. BBB
12. Fur-Lined
13. The Believers
14. The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters

staleincense
02-14-2013, 03:44 AM
The virus, apparently, is spreading :D (https://twitter.com/slicingeyeballs/status/297863563110916096)
Just be thankful that they didn't start using gratuitous underscores.

gorast
02-21-2013, 02:04 AM
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh501/Somedude179/sigils.png

I do love iTunes's new album view.

sheepdean
02-21-2013, 04:57 AM
I'm liking Spotify's atm
http://25.media.tumblr.com/d5b57d4554ae7317ea20e350b89d0195/tumblr_mikh32hXVb1qh3xtbo1_250.jpg

sheepdean
02-25-2013, 09:41 AM
I wonder if HTDA are going do a non-Trent album for Sigil 5? Like, have him really hands-off whilst he does his tour or whatever.

bgalbraith
02-25-2013, 10:47 AM
I wonder if HTDA are going do a non-Trent album for Sigil 5? Like, have him really hands-off whilst he does his tour or whatever.

It will be very interesting to see what kind of presence HTDA has during the NIN tours. It will solidify their status as a truly independent entity or just "Trent Reznor's other band."

simonn
02-26-2013, 06:45 AM
A little saddened that we won't get to see them in the UK now that NIN have announced their intentions to take up all his time for the foreseeable from May! Can't complain though...the return of NIN will help me get over it!

ImTheWiseJanitor
02-26-2013, 11:50 AM
A local venue's having a contest to celebrate the snow day - Comment with a name for the snow storm, but it has to be associated with snow in some way, and winner gets two free tickets to a show of their choice.

I immediately nominated "How To Destroy Snow Angels."

Miss.Selfdestruct
02-26-2013, 07:14 PM
Has there been any word on how much tickets will be?

RJK
02-26-2013, 07:19 PM
Has there been any word on how much tickets will be?

So far shows have been listed from $30 to $50 without fees.

wizfan
02-26-2013, 11:27 PM
So, what was Kevin "The Bug" Martin's contribution, anyway?

Zipfinator
02-26-2013, 11:32 PM
So, what was Kevin "The Bug" Martin's contribution, anyway?

They didn't use it.

thefragile_jake
03-01-2013, 11:25 PM
After listening to James Blake's newest track I've realised (mainly because JB uses a bunch of droning synths in that track) that I really want a James Blake & HTDA collaboration. Probably won't happen, but if it ever did...

This would be pretty awesome. James Blake is amazing on record....AND live.

NotoriousTIMP
03-02-2013, 12:56 AM
Has anyone else noticed that "A Drowning" is used to promote the new TV show "HANNIBAL" - I just saw the promo on CBS

http://www.slashfilm.com/hannibal-tv-trailer-break-out-the-chianti/

gorast
03-02-2013, 01:14 AM
Speaking of A Drowing, a 7'' for Record Store Day with an exclusive track as the b-side would be pretty cool. That way there'd be a vinyl release for all four Sigils (and the vinyl would scale up with each release from 1 to 3 - 7'', then 10'', then 12'').

theSplinter04
03-02-2013, 12:48 PM
Who else thinks this is the better album cover?

http://i50.tinypic.com/f4jsl1.jpg

imail724
03-02-2013, 12:54 PM
Nah, I like the actual cover better.

Stereo75
03-05-2013, 11:32 AM
Speaking of covers:

I'd love to hear Sheryl Crow cover Ice Age. I can't help but hear her.

gorast
03-05-2013, 12:47 PM
Who else thinks this is the better album cover?

http://i50.tinypic.com/f4jsl1.jpg
I noticed in the .zip that that's included with the two "official" album covers. I wonder if this was one that was rejected for one of the physical mediums?

sheepdean
03-05-2013, 01:01 PM
Rob originally said CD/Vinyl/Digital would have a cover each. I wonder if that was digital

gorast
03-05-2013, 01:19 PM
miyan9: HTDA: who's idea was it to add the _ at the end of the name and will you ever adopt any other cool symbols for future releases?

Trent: That move was mine. I'd like to work my way up to an umlaut, but I wanted to ease into it.

spahn
03-05-2013, 02:01 PM
miyan9: HTDA: who's idea was it to add the _ at the end of the name and will you ever adopt any other cool symbols for future releases?

Trent: That move was mine. I'd like to work my way up to an umlaut, but I wanted to ease into it.

automatically thought of einstürzende neubauten when i read that. :)

imail724
03-05-2013, 02:30 PM
So after putting Welcome Oblivion next to An Omen and s/t on the shelf, I was reminded how annoying it is that A Drowning is Sigil 1... :(

sheepdean
03-05-2013, 03:12 PM
If anyone can't access Reddit because of a work block or because they despise everything about it, I'll be cataloguing this whole thing to ninwiki on the HTDA Q&A page.

jrdsctt
03-05-2013, 03:17 PM
That feel you get when you realize there are potentially hundreds of unheard Trent music out there: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/19q0r9/we_are_how_to_destroy_angels_mariqueen_maandig/c8qc2h1?context=3

sheepdean
03-05-2013, 03:19 PM
That feel you get when you realize there are potentially hundreds of unheard Trent music out there: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/19q0r9/we_are_how_to_destroy_angels_mariqueen_maandig/c8qc2h1?context=3
That feel when it clearly says [Atticus] not [Trent] ;)

bgalbraith
03-05-2013, 03:20 PM
Some of Trent's responses are fantastic.


[Trent] Sorry, the wifi on our yacht is having issues, we can't get your full question to load. Try sending me an email at gofuckyourself@youcunt.com

jrdsctt
03-05-2013, 03:25 PM
Some of Trent's responses are fantastic.

Here is some context as to what he is responding to: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/19q0r9/we_are_how_to_destroy_angels_mariqueen_maandig/c8qcg16?context=3

sheepdean
03-05-2013, 03:26 PM
If anyone can't access Reddit because of a work block or because they despise everything about it, I'll be cataloguing this whole thing to ninwiki on the HTDA Q&A page.
Here you go guys, enjoy http://www.ninwiki.com/Htda_Questions#Reddit

scorpiusdiamond
03-05-2013, 03:43 PM
Did anyone spot my handle in there?
That was a pretty cool thing to happen to me today...

kenthebear
03-05-2013, 04:06 PM
I did, and a few other ETSers.

My question got answered but in the context of another answer, so I don't get credit on the wiki. #firstworldproblems

scorpiusdiamond
03-05-2013, 04:10 PM
I did, and a few other ETSers.

My question got answered but in the context of another answer, so I don't get credit on the wiki. #firstworldproblems

Yeah, Rob answered my second question in another post. I got lucky and submitted my question about a minute after they posted.

bgalbraith
03-05-2013, 04:33 PM
Oh man, it's the TGWTDT treasure hunt all over again... without the crazy hidden messages

https://twitter.com/destroyangels/status/309068708502974464

NIN64
03-05-2013, 06:24 PM
My skin began to crawl as I read the AMA question that mentioned their kids. . . Can't people just enjoy their music, and not try to pry into their personal lives?!?

Shnoorum
03-05-2013, 06:50 PM
Here you go guys, enjoy http://www.ninwiki.com/Htda_Questions#Reddit

Yay! My super suck up question got answered! Couldn't help letting my "OMFG HTDA" side out there. Also read the possibility of more videos somewhere in there which is just the bees knees if you ask me

JamesCmuse
03-05-2013, 08:19 PM
Love Trent's reply to that passive aggressive dickhead at the end of the page. Made me laugh so hard, I'm so glad he answered it.

laci
03-06-2013, 04:17 AM
Here you go guys, enjoy http://www.ninwiki.com/Htda_Questions#Reddit

Would have been easier using your selection, but haven't noticed it before. :)
https://www.facebook.com/notes/ninhu/redditcom-htda-ask-me-anything-interj%C3%BA/10151361139838867

r_z
03-06-2013, 02:59 PM
Damn. Somebody should have asked Atticus about the unreleased 12 Rounds album...

my voice just
03-06-2013, 06:53 PM
I doubt there will be a physical release but we’ll continue to put songs up (slowly, as you may have noticed)
http://www.ninwiki.com/Htda_Questions#12_Rounds

ImTheWiseJanitor
03-06-2013, 09:12 PM
So, now that an extra $500 has fallen into my lap, it's taking every single ounce of self-control I have to resist buying tickets to the Denver, CO show. It's the closest one, and the tickets aren't that pricey, but it's on a Sunday, and I'd likely have to miss class that next day. Maybe I'd get by, hard to tell. But uuugh. I have to mull this one over, fast. I might just hold out for NIN tickets and try for pre-sales, because I have a feeling that tickets for HTDA are gonna be all sold out by the time I decide (surprisingly, there are still a handful of tickets left).

ghostaustin
03-08-2013, 08:49 AM
every time I hear Too Late, All Gone, I can't help but expect them to say "Shotgun... Now tell me where my niggas at"

imail724
03-08-2013, 09:03 AM
Speaking of too late, all gone, does trent's "Ooooooh" right before the first chorus remind anyone else of tv on the radio?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

dominik
03-11-2013, 09:25 AM
I want HTDA to cover this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNvUS-6PTbs

wizfan
03-18-2013, 06:06 PM
Man, those two extra tracks. Wow. "Unintended consequences" gave me more chills than most of the Dragon Tattoo OST. That multiplied voice effect at the end was also used in a Ghosts track I believe, it sounds so funny!

wizfan
03-20-2013, 09:24 AM
HTDA recorded the first EP in 48kHz because they were "subscribing to the belief that it actually sounds better than 96kHz". But, ever since, TSN, Tattoo and WO have all been released in 96kHz. Huh.

sheepdean
03-20-2013, 09:29 AM
HTDA recorded the first EP in 48kHz because they were "subscribing to the belief that it actually sounds better than 96kHz". But, ever since, TSN, Tattoo and WO have all been released in 96kHz. Huh.
Maybe someone showed them otherwise?

BRoswell
03-20-2013, 10:24 AM
HTDA recorded the first EP in 48kHz because they were "subscribing to the belief that it actually sounds better than 96kHz". But, ever since, TSN, Tattoo and WO have all been released in 96kHz. Huh.

The original quote was "We recorded this at 24bit 48k because we're currently subscribing to the belief that it actually sounds better than 96k." Maybe it sounded good for the initial EP, but after doing the soundtracks (which have to be in the highest quality possible considering the film is going to play in multiplexes around the world), they decided it was better to record the other way.

wizfan
03-21-2013, 08:52 AM
The original quote was "We recorded this at 24bit 48k because we're currently subscribing to the belief that it actually sounds better than 96k." Maybe it sounded good for the initial EP, but after doing the soundtracks (which have to be in the highest quality possible considering the film is going to play in multiplexes around the world), they decided it was better to record the other way.

Probably. Sound in movies is usually recorded and mixed in 48k, but I see your point. After all, those prepared piano sounds in Tattoo needed the highest recording quality possible.

screwdriver
03-21-2013, 10:08 AM
Just gonna say it -- the CD sequence of Welcome Oblivion is vastly superior to the vinyl sequence. That said, I immensely enjoy the vinyl additions, and I also enjoy throwing Speaking in Tongues in at the appropriate spot as well. Time to make some sort of correct sequence, if someone hasn't beaten me to it.

wizfan
03-21-2013, 10:10 AM
Where do you place Speaking of Tongues? Do you also place The Sleep of Reason... somewhere?

screwdriver
03-21-2013, 10:18 AM
Where do you place Speaking of Tongues? Do you also place The Sleep of Reason... somewhere?

Speaking in Tongues segues PERFECTLY after Unintended Consequences -- it's totally bizarre that it wasn't included because it really fits perfectly.

The Sleep of Reason I don't much care for and don't really see a logical place for it anyway... so yeah

gorast
03-21-2013, 11:23 PM
Something I realized today was that while HTDA has been pushing digital downloads as the definitive method of obtaining their music, vinyl is actually the only format in which every song they've made has been officially released, thanks to the bonus tracks for the vinyl edition of Welcome oblivion.

butter_hole
03-22-2013, 12:28 AM
but the bonus tracks on the white label CD?

seasonsinthesky
03-22-2013, 11:21 AM
The original quote was "We recorded this at 24bit 48k because we're currently subscribing to the belief that it actually sounds better than 96k." Maybe it sounded good for the initial EP, but after doing the soundtracks (which have to be in the highest quality possible considering the film is going to play in multiplexes around the world), they decided it was better to record the other way.

except they didn't record any of the soundtracks or Welcome Oblivion at 96k. they still record at 48k. it gets mastered at 96k, and we get the 96k mastered files.

also, even if any given soundtrack is recorded at 96k, it still gets played at 48k in every movie theater everywhere.

gorast
03-22-2013, 12:10 PM
but the bonus tracks on the white label CD?
Still excludes the two tracks exclusive to An omen.

Like, I mean one medium universally. Digital doesn't have the WO bonus tracks, An omen wasn't released on CD. It's a dumb nitpick.

screwdriver
03-28-2013, 01:58 PM
someone help me out -- after An Omen came out, Trent made some statement about how the ending of one of the songs illustrated the genius of Alan Moulder or something similar. I can't find it and its driving me crazy... anyone?

fwhunnercun
03-28-2013, 03:38 PM
someone help me out -- after An Omen came out, Trent made some statement about how the ending of one of the songs illustrated the genius of Alan Moulder or something similar. I can't find it and its driving me crazy... anyone?


On the wing

screwdriver
04-03-2013, 10:20 PM
I'm really arbitrarily excited by the frequency of the Octatrack in the rehearsal pictures/vines/whatever. I'm very curious to see how they use it.

Fragile Teeth
04-11-2013, 11:22 AM
Mariqueen is a damn good dancer.

sweeterthan
04-13-2013, 08:26 AM
these performances have worked on me. I just wasn't that into HTDA_ originally but the footage from coachella and pomona have really got in my head and now I LOVE IT! The production aspect is so... immersive. Way to go, Rob.

Also, Mariqueen's voice is amazing. She's really fantastic as a singer. I love Trent and NIN and his voice but her vocals polarize his.

gorast
04-13-2013, 01:04 PM
I think BBB and WO were the two biggest surprises for me performance-wise. BBB blew the studio version away (even with the idiotic lyrics) and Mariqueen completely killed it on WO. Amazing.

Huge Bone
04-13-2013, 01:45 PM
Mariqueen is a damn good dancer.

Church. Exactly what I was thinking.

butter_hole
04-14-2013, 06:45 PM
Been thinking lately, especially with NINs resurgence and the inevitable pushing aside of HTDA, the next few weeks are about to get fairly "legendary" amongst NIN/TR fans. History has shown us that the events which occur only for a short period, such as the Nights of Nothing shows or the Bridge School Benefit tend to get more attention and a higher status among fans/wiki-editors because there's only so many shows to discuss, only so many bootlegs to get, only so many concert posters, etc.
It's going to be a weird feeling in a couple of years that there was this whole, fully realized tour that just flew past us all in a few short weeks and disappeared (maybe) forever. I feel like HTDAs public perception is going to be a lot higher because of it as well.

Anyway I don't really know what I'm getting at.. Someone tell me I'm not crazy.

Rudi
04-15-2013, 12:10 AM
After seeing how the live production works, I think the emphasis on the visuals/effects and the band being shrouded was intentional. This way, with the focus on the effects, TR doesn't stand out as much from anybody else on stage, they can downplay that perception of "Trent's band with his wife & friends." Sure there's moments where Mariqueen or Trent stand out, but those are more vocal cues than anything else.

(Emphasis on random for the next thoughts)
I'm glad they're playing The Believers, I've always thought that was the most interesting track on the first EP.
When they're all jamming during The Loop Closes, I have flashbacks to La Mer from AATCHB.
Love the live arrangements, but I think there's too many spaces filled with "ooohhhhhhhh" or "aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh" as filler. I know they're only 3 shows in but I hope that gets tightened up.

danzo_rezno
04-15-2013, 04:54 PM
Can anyone else hear the weird cool dialing sounds in the background of BBB during the chorus?
I love it, I'm back on this song again thanks to the Coachella performance

ZeroisGreg
04-15-2013, 07:38 PM
these performances have worked on me. I just wasn't that into HTDA_ originally but the footage from coachella and pomona have really got in my head and now I LOVE IT! The production aspect is so... immersive. Way to go, Rob.

Also, Mariqueen's voice is amazing. She's really fantastic as a singer. I love Trent and NIN and his voice but her vocals polarize his.

I just listened to the Coachella gig and she doesn't sound that great. Hearing her live doesn't really work and if you listen close enough you can hear her pitch is off as well as timing. Now going back to listening to WO her voice is hit and miss. But live it seems more miss than hit. That's my hones opinion. Feel free to bash me for speaking my thoughts.

Warped_Savant
04-15-2013, 08:10 PM
ZeroisGreg -- That's, to me, actually funny. I was thinking the exact opposite of you; I prefer her voice live than in the studio.

jaypayton
04-15-2013, 10:07 PM
I prefer if her husband was the main vocalist...

sheepdean
04-15-2013, 10:28 PM
I prefer if her husband was the main vocalist...
I'd prefer if you sucked my dick but we can't have everything

ZeroisGreg
04-15-2013, 10:30 PM
I prefer if her husband was the main vocalist...Ofcourse that would defeat the whole purpose...right? The HTDA project is supposed to be a different approach. "...we fade away...we fade away".

gorast
04-15-2013, 11:41 PM
I prefer if her husband was the main vocalist...
That's called NIN, friend. Wrong forum.

eversonpoe
04-16-2013, 08:02 AM
I prefer if her husband was the main vocalist...

i don't know if you're trolling or if you just can't help coming off as rude, but every post i've seen you make has been confrontational. you're not just displaying your opinion, you're stirring the pot and trying to piss people off. if you're not going to add to the discussion, please just stop.

sweeterthan
04-16-2013, 08:18 AM
I just listened to the Coachella gig and she doesn't sound that great. Hearing her live doesn't really work and if you listen close enough you can hear her pitch is off as well as timing. Now going back to listening to WO her voice is hit and miss. But live it seems more miss than hit. That's my hones opinion. Feel free to bash me for speaking my thoughts.

certainly everyone is entitled to their opinion but how can you deny the gorgeousness of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDIIHIG-YB0&list=PLW5UKiFwvaVHM2BpHxf2vchFzrYHzh2JO&index=5

I just love what they did for their live show. It has changed my perspective on the entire project. Something that i only listened to a few times has now been played over and over since friday. I think i had convinced myself that because it wasn't nin that I wasn't going to love it. When trent worked with Saul Williams, I had a similar preconceived notion of disinterest but that blew me away too.

dlb
04-16-2013, 04:24 PM
The live show is what finally changed my perspective on HTDA, aswell after the album had somewhat convinced me already, but not totally. I absolutely adore the visuals and what they have done here. While it has a very LITS-feel to it, I wouldn't really have thought of what they came up with in the end and I think it's pretty much perfect. I've always enjoyed Rob's glitch art and while I wasn't a fan of the YZ art in particular I always had a very soft spot for the with teeth artwork so welcome oblivion and the new show hit home with me.

I'm also not 100% sold on the music itself and I too am of the opinion that there could be a vocalist more fitting, but the whole thing grew on me alot. I'm also quite suprised that the whole first EP found it's way onto the stage, while I always thought that Trent and Co. looked at them as some kind of experiment in which the HDTA project may be heading. As I've always been a sucker for BBB (don't get the hate) I love the way it translates on the stage.

So while I have a lot of good things to say about this (I tend to skip ice age and how long though) I can't help myself, but keep wondering if I would listen to it, if Trent wasn't involved... that's the only bitter taste that did last after all. But mostly I'm enjoying everything I've seen so far.

jaypayton
04-17-2013, 06:21 PM
I am giving my opinion which is I do not think HTDA is that great. (its the opinion of a lot of people) Trent in a band with his wife and his photographer/web designer playing keyboards comes off a little....self indulgent...A lot of the interest they are generating is mostly NIN fans who are going to the shows just to see TR on stage again....The stage/lights show is no different than what we saw on LITS and MQ's vocals are average at best...

Torgo
04-17-2013, 06:30 PM
I am giving my opinion which is I do not think HTDA is that great. (its the opinion of a lot of people) Trent in a band with his wife and his photographer/web designer playing keyboards comes off a little....self indulgent...A lot of the interest they are generating is mostly NIN fans who are going to the shows just to see TR on stage again....The stage/lights show is no different than what we saw on LITS and MQ's vocals are average at best...

Dude, Rob isn't playing keyboards. He's messing with the live visuals via an interactive board during the show.

jaypayton
04-17-2013, 09:08 PM
just the fact Rob is on the stage while they perform is nonsense...He could do that stuff backstage or off by the soundboard.....unless this way he gets to live out his rockstar fantasies by being on stage with everyone else....I had numerous friends make jokes that Rob is now the "Andy Fletcher" of HTDA.....

orestes
04-17-2013, 09:16 PM
Man, we really need the peanut gallery member status back.

sheepdean
04-17-2013, 09:29 PM
Rob is doing backing vocals and I'm 70% sure a bit of synth (from the Coachella and BTS video, plus the reddit Q&A).

And why should the artist have to hide behind the canvas? Even if he was ONLY doing visuals, the visuals are amazing and he deserves recognition for them.

orestes
04-17-2013, 09:32 PM
Because people are only there to see Trent, duh.

Erik
04-17-2013, 09:34 PM
jaypayton Rob is a full fledged band member. Did The Beatles keep George off stage by the soundboard?

sheepdean
04-17-2013, 09:37 PM
Trent: writes some music and does backing vocals+synth
Rob: creates all the visuals, helps write music and does backing vocals+synth.

Let's be honest here, Trent is the dead weight of the band of the two.

Torgo
04-17-2013, 10:01 PM
Rob is doing backing vocals and I'm 70% sure a bit of synth (from the Coachella and BTS video, plus the reddit Q&A).

Where did you see him performing synths at any live show...?

sheepdean
04-17-2013, 10:04 PM
Some of the gear fiddling looked like it was musical, though as there's no closeups on his rigs it's hard to see (he DOES play synth on the record after all)

eversonpoe
04-17-2013, 10:06 PM
just the fact Rob is on the stage while they perform is nonsense...He could do that stuff backstage or off by the soundboard.....unless this way he gets to live out his rockstar fantasies by being on stage with everyone else....I had numerous friends make jokes that Rob is now the "Andy Fletcher" of HTDA.....

the problem with this right here (and pretty much everything else you've written) is that you're not just giving your opinion. you're stating your opinion as if it's gospel, and you're doing it in a completely condescending, arrogant tone. you're not actually adding anything to the discussion. and, unfortunately, by wasting my energy arguing with you, neither am i.

so, i'm going to do something constructive and say I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HTDA NEXT WEEK! i haven't watched the whole coachella video or listened to the audio because i'm kind of saving it for after i actually see them.

jaypayton
04-17-2013, 11:39 PM
If someone like Robert Smith started a band with his wife and his photographer in the band, it would get crucified....And don't act like HDTA is a separate entity from NIN, developing their own fanbase and creating a name for themselves OUTSIDE of NIN....99 percent of the HDTA "fans" are NIN fans who crossed over...

sheepdean
04-17-2013, 11:52 PM
If someone like Robert Smith started a band with his wife and his photographer in the band, it would get crucified....And don't act like HDTA is a separate entity from NIN, developing their own fanbase and creating a name for themselves OUTSIDE of NIN....99 percent of the HDTA "fans" are NIN fans who crossed over...
If Robert Smith's wife can sing, like Mariqueen can, no it wouldn't.

Also you're forgetting Atticus, which is unforgivable enough on the soundtracks, but he's in the videos for this one.

And yeah, this is essentially a supergroup, and supergroups generally have a fanbase that is mainly members of their previous fanbases until they start to grow. I've seen plenty of fans joining from things like Coachella who aren't NIN fans, so it is starting to spread. But you can't expect a band, on their first tour, to instantly have a huge fanbase.

But to repeat: this is a band led by Mariqueen, along with her husband, Trent. Whilst many of the fans wouldn't KNOW about the band without Trent, the band still is clearly fronted by her. What with the lyrics and singing and all.

Vertigo
04-18-2013, 04:37 AM
The way I see it is, Trent's found a set of people he really likes working with in Atticus, Alan and Rob (and I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that he likes Mariqueen too), but NIN is typically a highly changable entity, and each new 'era' of it is associated with a new set of producers and collaborators. It's an opportunity to keep working with them in a major way while allowing NIN to continue to evolve. Which makes me glad - he's produced some great stuff with Atticus, but each set of collaborators brings something new and interesting out of his material.
Loved this era, looking forward to the next one.

dominik
04-18-2013, 03:20 PM
"You see that VHS filter they put on YouTube? Clearly a rip-off from The Loop Closes."

http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/c0a7d834a7d611e2bf1c22000aa8008f_7.jpg

fillow
04-18-2013, 05:05 PM
This calls for Photoshop thread revival. Badly.

r_z
04-18-2013, 05:17 PM
this is a band led by Mariqueen, along with her husband, Trent. Whilst many of the fans wouldn't KNOW about the band without Trent, the band still is clearly fronted by her. What with the lyrics and singing and all.

just pointing out, that we dont know, exactly who wrote the lyrics. also, the one's singing aren't always the one's fronting, like in... steering the ship and whatnot. still, the massive amount of interviews i've read/watched throughout the years leaves me no choice but to believe that everyone in this group has an equal say about things. don't even act like you don't know about, how much trent likes to arrange dinners and have meetings to talk about each and every thing and stuff.

that being said, it's obvious to me, that neither rob nor q would be performing at, say, coachella were it not for trent / them having met trent at different points in his life. they're not on that stage for being acceptable singers or good art directors. they're there, because they're related to trent.

i have no problem with it at all though. may they sell their art director as a musical counterpart as much as they want... in the end, all that matters is the music. and it seems like a lot of you love the new record, so there's that.

botley
04-18-2013, 09:12 PM
Oh, so that it's merely pure nepotism is OBVIOUS to you. Great. Maybe you can put on your own Coachella-like festival then. One where the headliners all consist of performers who know or are 'related to' other more famous performers, with no regard to their talent or capabilities. Good luck with that.

allegro
04-18-2013, 09:35 PM
JESUS, Nine Inch Nails fans are juvenile. I just don't see why any of this shit MATTERS. It's a fucking BAND, for Christ sake. No Nobel prize or cure for cancer is involved.

I fully admit that I don't love HTDA, but I don't hate them, either. I fully admit that I think that Mariqueen sings exactly like Debbie Gibson. HOWEVER, I read some of these tour journals because I think Mariqueen is a compelling figure; she's fascinating. And she's really pretty. And singing like Debbie Gibson isn't necessarily a "bad" thing, since Debbie Gibson had a lot of hits and a lucrative career. These live HDTA shows is like Stevie Nicks mated with Debbie Gibson and then mated with Trent Reznor.

Wait, that didn't come out the way it is in my head.

But I DO think that HDTA should cover "Only in My Dreams" and "Gold Dust Woman."

botley
04-18-2013, 10:02 PM
I don't care how people perceive the band artistically; that's clearly all subjective and blah blah blah. But people also operate on a weird fantasy set of premises on how the music business works, in terms of motivations etc. and that just sucks because it reinforces shitty prejudices.

allegro
04-18-2013, 10:03 PM
Yup, you hit the nine inch nail right on the head.

I thought it was all just sexist but now the zingers pointed at Rob are just weird. What if these are a bunch of friends who really love hanging out with each other and this is a lot of fun for them? Reznor is the one taking the biggest risk, here, and he obviously doesn't care. If anything, this says that he's not a total careerist who cares only about his reputation and the almighty dollar. This reminds me of Perry and Etty who genuinely love being together with each other and their friends and kids and they don't care if you don't like their style of creativity or togetherness because that's not the point. You're right, though; the motivation is not important.

botley
04-18-2013, 10:18 PM
Ken Scott's book Abbey Road to Ziggy Stardust is a good place to learn about the inner workings of showbusiness as it relates to rock 'n roll — that guy was always, always around incredibly talented musicians, his whole career, and produced some of their best work. He makes it clear that only sheer talent (combined with lots of luck) makes for a killer show, and actually whose husband or friend you are counts for LESS than zero if you want to contribute to a project and have it be a success. Case in point would be the band Missing Persons. I compare HTDA to them more than anything else — sure, there were plenty of hardcore Terry Bozzio fans from his time with Frank Zappa's band and they came out to see him and his wife play shows, but what kept the band going was their unique combination of talents.

You also make a great point about just wanting to hang out. I'm sure TR was missing having Alessandro around for the last NIN tour. But they wouldn't bring him along if he wasn't talented — plus his singing voice compliments Mariqueen's beautifully.

allegro
04-18-2013, 10:21 PM
Missing Persons is a great example. Terry AND Dale Bozzio were awesome together.

botley
04-18-2013, 10:30 PM
They still ARE great, and Terry's not even in the band anymore! I think you'd love that book, PS.

allegro
04-18-2013, 10:38 PM
I trust you on that, friend, and will order it.

jaypayton
04-19-2013, 02:10 AM
Bottom line is, nobody really heard of MQ before she married Trent. West Indian Girl was not exactly tearing up the charts and headlining festivals. MQ will always be known as Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nail's wife..So all these HTDA fans who think this band is so amazing, that's fine, but the bottom line is the band is getting noticed because of Trent. they are getting booked at festivals because of Trent. Don't act like everyone is an equal member and TR is a background player...He may take 2nd stage during the live shows but his NAME is responsible for their record deal, their festival bookings and 95 percent of their "fans....In respect to her, it probably would have been a better career move to start a band OUTSIDE of her marriage and make it on her own....HTDA will always be perceived as Trent Reznor from NIN's little side project with his wife and photog buddy/sidekick....

BRoswell
04-19-2013, 02:24 AM
*snore*

Who gives a flying fuck if the band includes his wife and his art director? Point is, do you like the music? If the answer is yes, rock on. If the answer is no, thanks for your time and move along. Moaning about who is in the group and why people like them is pointless.

sheepdean
04-19-2013, 02:29 AM
No shit Sherlock. If the band was Q/Atticus/Rob, everyone on this board would still know they exist, but the casual NIN fans probably wouldn't've noticed. What's the crime in having a famous member? Do you also go on Wings messageboards and bitch about how they'd be no one without McCartney?

Yes, they would be less famous without an already famous member. No, that has no relation on the quality of the music nor anyone here's enjoyment (or lack thereof) of it.



And a side note: everyone is an equal member of the band. Two members have a famous rockstar surname, but their musical input is all equal.

fillow
04-19-2013, 03:34 AM
I wonder if the same bullshit flooded Tool forums when Maynard started APC.

I can give all the HTDA haters a parallel world scenario.
Imagine there is no band at all. NIN is done touring for a while. Trent is doing soundtracks with Atticus and raising kinds with Q. Then it all goes completely quiet for a year or so with no new music, side projects or whatever, until 2013 NIN tour is announced with the same dates. Realistic? Sure, this isn't new, happened several times in the past (minus kids). But is it better than having HTDA to fill the gap? Decide for yourselves.

r_z
04-19-2013, 03:49 AM
you people are far too sensitive. neither jaypayton nor myself said there's "a crime" or some shit like that. what's the point of having a mess-age board and facepalming every post you don't agree with? do you really believe, q would have gotten a record deal with columbia all on her own without having trents name attached to her? i'd say the signs strongly point to: no, probably. she got married to the guy, they love each other, they have good friends and decided to start a band and have good time. which is perfectly fine and not our business to judge. still, people perceiving q as some kind of star who was bound to have a major-deal and a band and performances on festivals no matter what... are exaggerating. i'm not saying she hasnt any talent though.

also, this is a board for discussions, right? what's the point in only posting our little fanboy stuff, while critical words - few as there are - get facepalmed and shitted on and not taking seriously?

BenAkenobi
04-19-2013, 04:13 AM
More, they aren't under nin-umbrella. They're under coil-umbrella. Their moniker is uncomfortable, it's hard to type and to pronounce. But besides that (tiny and irrelevant) thing, my main beef with them is they made a brilliant first record in 2010, which was fresh and fun like a meteor in summer midnight sky but now they return with dark and conceptual record again. I like Mar-Maa's singing, while the band seems to be really limiting her this time, i can't help but kind of doubt she fully enjoys her role in this :( Sorry if my words offend anyone.

allegro
04-19-2013, 08:20 AM
You people are analyzing this way too much? In case you haven't noticed, the recording business isn't the best career choice these days.

botley
04-19-2013, 08:46 AM
Yeah. It's a different world now, there are zero 'big privileges' afforded on name recognition alone anymore. You don't see "Trent Reznor's HTDA" on the marquees.

jaypayton
04-19-2013, 11:36 AM
the HTDA fanboys are trying to act like its a separate thing from TR and NIN and that MQ is the star of the band and TR's role is in the background.....which is nonsense....the record deal, the festival bookings, the tickets selling out quick, the attention is all because of the name TRENT REZNOR....he may be in the background during the live show, but TR is still the reason anyone takes notice...don't kid yourself and think otherwise......and starting a band with your wife and photog sidekick seems like a no win situation....If Kurt Cobain started a band with Courtney Love and their photographer buddy in 1993....the perception would have been brutal......

orestes
04-19-2013, 11:54 AM
It's pretty easy to judge another person's merit from their computer.

botley
04-19-2013, 11:55 AM
Who are you arguing with, jaypayton, exactly? You are just repeating the same assertions now, not responding to what anyone else is saying, which is basically "things aren't that straightforward". It isn't just TR's name that draws interest, it's his standard of excellence in taste and collaborative track record that people respond to so strongly.

TheDavidMurphy
04-19-2013, 12:22 PM
Hm. Didn't realize there was quite so much HTDA/NIN bitching going on. I confess, I didn't like HTDA that much at first; I thought it was a big enough of a divergence (i.e. happy songs?!?!?!11!!!) from "NIN proper" that it wasn't quick sticking with me the first few times I listened through the EP/album/whatever.

That said, I think the live show is one of the most visually compelling things that Trent's done in years -- and I include LITS in that one. The songs might not really stick for your NIN Überfans, but I think that they contain enough throwbacks to the general WT era (if not The Fragile) that they're still fun. Who doesn't love all that bass wub-wub, too. Shit, even Ice Age has grown on me after watching the performance version, and I think that's one of the weaker songs that HTDA has put out.

Which is all a long-winded way to say... who cares? See the show and hate the band for all I care; it's definitely a visual treat.

Erik
04-19-2013, 12:30 PM
the HTDA fanboys are trying to act like its a separate thing from TR and NIN and that MQ is the star of the band and TR's role is in the background.....which is nonsense....the record deal, the festival bookings, the tickets selling out quick, the attention is all because of the name TRENT REZNOR....he may be in the background during the live show, but TR is still the reason anyone takes notice...don't kid yourself and think otherwise......and starting a band with your wife and photog sidekick seems like a no win situation....If Kurt Cobain started a band with Courtney Love and their photographer buddy in 1993....the perception would have been brutal......

Hi there, @jaypayton (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2171), I don't usually feed trolls but I've got a miserable knee injury and didn't bring any painkillers to work this morning so I figure this is the best way to dull the pain today.

How to destroy angels_ is as much Mariqueen Reznor (accomplished musician prior to being married to Trent in bands called West Indian Girl and I Will Never Be The Same), Atticus Ross (accomplished musician in 12 Rounds, producing Barry Adamson, programming for Bomb the Bass all before meeting Trent), Alessandro Cortini (was in the Mayfield Four and Modwheelmood and played with such bands as Everclear live as well all prior to meeting Trent) and Rob Sheridan (who I admit has pretty much spent his entire career working with Trent) as it is Trent Reznor's "other band".

Oddly, I was a fan of West Indian Girl before Mariqueen and Trent were married. I recorded two really awful videos of their performance at the Treasure Island Music Festival in 2007. One is linked below.
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1153178fdfbtbJa

I'm the webmaster for 12rounds.net. I was a huge fan of Claudia and Atticus and saw them on tour in 1998. Yes, it took them being on Nothing Records for me to discover them, but I bought the album and saw the band in concert and started a website for them that eventually became "official" because of the amazing music that the band made, not because of Trent Reznor.

As a part of my association with 12 Rounds, I met a guy named Mike who introduced me to Modwheelmood. I greatly enjoyed their Semi-Human live EP which was a free download and included a cover of Depeche Mode's "Home" and a cover of The Cranberries "Ode to My Family" in addition to four tracks that were later on "commercial" Modwheelmood releases. I learned about Modwheelmood a few months before Trent put together the live band that added Alessandro Cortini to Nine Inch Nails. I own every Modwheelmood, Blindoldfreak, Sonoio and Alessandro Cortini release thus far released not because of his association with Trent but because he makes damned good music that I connect to.

Rob Sheridan is not Trent's "photographer buddy". Yes, Rob takes photographs. But Rob also has provided art direction and visuals on just about every nine inch nails related release or product since 2000. He did a tremendous amount of work on the Year Zero ARG, which I participated significantly in. And in How to destroy angels_ he does twiddle knobs and sing backing vocals. Yes, I know about Rob and became a fan of Rob's because of Trent.

But you know what? I would have seen How to destroy angels_ at slightly smaller venues based on Mariqueen, Atticus and Alessandro being in the band, with or without Trent. I would have been just excited to see the three of them as I am with having Trent in the band because I love their music, especially Atticus and Alessandro.

You know what is cool about Trent being in the band? He is having fun working on a project he's been wanting to do with a female vocalist (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1432649/nine-inch-nails-looking-female-vocalist-touring-band.jhtml) since the Fragile era. That vocalist likely would have been Aaliyah based on reports in 1999 (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1424660/trent-reznor-aaliyah-ponder-collaboration.jhtml) if not for her untimely death.

Would you have had less of a problem if Tapeworm had come to fruition and Maynard, Atticus, Danny and Charlie would have been in the band with Trent "in the background"?

Also, Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love DID collaborate on some tracks. Asking For It and Clean Up Before She Comes came out of Nirvana and Kurt/Courtney demos (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/23/kurt-cobain-courtney-love-song-stinking-of-you_n_1446008.html). It is likely had it not been for Kurt's death that a project with the two of them would have been fully realized and you know what... people would have liked that too.

So please do us all a favor and buy yourself a ticket to a How to destroy angels_ show and shut up. Here's a video to give you a good sampling of their live show.
http://youtu.be/vjpV__ducDU

I forgot one other important detail... Only one of the shows I attended was a "sell out" crowd, last night in San Francisco. There were tickets available for Pomona, Monterey and Las Vegas at the door. I'd assume Trent's name and the drawing power of being on Columbia Records really drew in the crowds. While it is disappointing to me that the band aren't playing huge venues, I saw 12 Rounds at the Black Cat in Washington DC in a crowd numbering less than 10, where two guys decided to lay on the ground in front of Claudia throughout the show. I saw Modwheelmood at The Elbo Room in San Francisco with a crowd numbering in the dozens. Both of those shows were great and I was happy to be a part of something special. The crowd size doesn't matter if the people in front of you love what they are doing.

marodi
04-19-2013, 12:50 PM
the HTDA fanboys are trying to act like its a separate thing from TR and NIN and that MQ is the star of the band and TR's role is in the background....which is nonsense....the record deal, the festival bookings, the tickets selling out quick, the attention is all because of the name TRENT REZNOR...he may be in the background during the live show, but TR is still the reason anyone takes notice...

In the grand scheme of things, all of this matters because...?


and starting a band with your wife and photog sidekick seems like a no win situation...

Why?

brokenfragility
04-19-2013, 12:55 PM
jaypayton who cares about "perception" or "why they're famous". Fame does not equal quality anyways (Nickleback could headline festivals im sure). Trent Reznor can make a new band with his wife if he wants, is he supposed to not do it just because people like you might perceive it as weird? If that was the case, I would call him a pussy bitch. As a musician myself, nothing you EVER do should be thought about from the perspective of "what are people going to think of this?". If you have an idea you think is cool, go for it. Fuck what people think. Trent Reznor can't help that his name creates fame, and he shouldn't play by different rules just because it does.

and r_z what's the point of having a mess-age board when you can't point out the stupidity in what other people are saying. Also, you are not saying what Jaypayton is, you were kind of closer to everyone else in that post, so I really don't get where you're coming from with the statement "you people are far too sensitive. neither jaypayton nor myself said there's "a crime" or some shit like that." Pointing out stupid shit does not equal being sensitive. You're preconceptions about the people posting is what drives you to think that.

jaypayton
04-19-2013, 02:06 PM
In 3 months NIN is back and none of this matters.....What set this off was last week when HDTA played Coachella, all the fanboys came out of the woodwork like this was some unbelievable event. Combined with what some of my friends in cali who attended the Coachella and headline gigs told me, which was a ton of people in the crowd were wearing NIN shirts and screaming for TR during the show and were not even familiar with 90 percent of the songs..... If NIN was dead and buried, I think TR would be getting slaughtered by the hardcore NIN fanbase (myself included) for ending NIN to start a band with wifey and his photog sidekick buddy....The fact NIN is back takes the sting out of it...Part of me wonders if TR decided to announce the return of NIN before the 1st HTDA shows, to avoid getting blasted by the NIN fanbase.. And I am well aware Kurt collaborated with Courtney on a few occasions..And its regarded as a low point of his career. Husband and wife musician tag teams do not end well and do not look good in the grand scheme of things. Look at what a joke KMFDM has become. Of course there is Yoko Ono. enough said...

jessamineny
04-19-2013, 02:25 PM
wifey

Aaaaand here is the actual heart of your troubles. And why this endless discussion with you will never go anywhere.

Erik
04-19-2013, 02:28 PM
If NIN was dead and buried, I think TR would be getting slaughtered by the hardcore NIN fanbase (myself included) for ending NIN to start a band with wifey and his photog sidekick buddy....

Serious question: If Mariqueen wasn't married to Trent and Rob was Charlie Clouser, would your opinion of the band have changed? If you just go in the same circle for a fifth or sixth time, I'll just leave it with this quote by a somewhat famous lyricist:
"The beginning is the end, keeps coming around again."

gorast
04-19-2013, 02:36 PM
Jesus fucking Christ you people. "Discussion board" doesn't mean "endlessly shit on a band without actually providing comprehensive reasoning as to why you think it's a shitty band", nor does it mean "continually spew out the same post re-worded for three pages." Go back to the NIN forum and talk about something else.

marodi
04-19-2013, 02:48 PM
jaypayton do you honestly believe that it is possible that yes, people were interested in HTDA because of TR but that the majority of them don't like the music? That all those fans attending shows are there only to see TR and that it doesn't matter what else is happening; he could do nothing but stand there like a potted plant and they would pay their hard-earned money to see that?

Also: are you aware that there are some fans who still, to this day, wear their NIN shirts to Filter's shows?

WorzelG
04-19-2013, 02:52 PM
^^^I wear my NIN performance 2007 shirt to a lot of gigs, because it's the only vaguely 'rock' t-shirt I've got. I always liked that NIN shirts were tastefully done, I don't like having a picture of some bands' big faces on my front!

HTDA thought - why no love for Too Late All Gone on the tour? It's my absolute favourite on the album

gorast
04-19-2013, 03:03 PM
HTDA thought - why no love for Too Late All Gone on the tour? It's my absolute favourite on the album
Perhaps they thought that the vocals weren't doable in a decent-sounding way live, with the overlapping and skipping and such.

WorzelG
04-19-2013, 03:06 PM
Perhaps they thought that the vocals weren't doable in a decent-sounding way live, with the overlapping and skipping and such.

I wonder if they tried it out in rehearsals? I'd love to see some rehearsal footage.

r_z
04-19-2013, 05:36 PM
@r_z (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=347) what's the point of having a mess-age board when you can't point out the stupidity in what other people are saying. Also, you are not saying what Jaypayton is, you were kind of closer to everyone else in that post, so I really don't get where you're coming from with the statement "you people are far too sensitive. neither jaypayton nor myself said there's "a crime" or some shit like that." Pointing out stupid shit does not equal being sensitive. You're preconceptions about the people posting is what drives you to think that.

fair enough. i guess, i felt that botley's reaction to my initial post was more heated than it needed to be. hence the urge to clarify. i find this whole debate kind of pointless, too, 'though.

allegro
04-19-2013, 08:23 PM
And I am well aware Kurt collaborated with Courtney on a few occasions..And its regarded as a low point of his career. Husband and wife musician tag teams do not end well and do not look good in the grand scheme of things. Look at what a joke KMFDM has become. Of course there is Yoko Ono. enough said...
You know, I'm not a HTDA fan but FUCK YOU. That is HIGHLY offensive. Your obvious misogyny is not welcome. You are a very mean sexist person. And now you are just a troll.

sick among the pure
04-19-2013, 08:56 PM
HEY, TOPIC CHANGING TIME!

So, I'm going to bus to and from the NYC show (live in Philly) and I was wondering if people know what time HTDA has been finishing non-festival shows? (also, door open has been @6 yes?)

jessamineny
04-19-2013, 09:05 PM
This is what Erik has said: "Doors at 7, DIIV on at 8. They usually end around 8:40. HTDA goes on at approximately 9. Their set is approximately 90 minutes."

Frozen Beach
04-19-2013, 10:17 PM
http://i35.tinypic.com/5d2bg8.jpg
How has no one photoshopped this yet?

sheepdean
04-20-2013, 01:49 AM
I wonder if they tried it out in rehearsals? I'd love to see some rehearsal footage.
I'm really hoping we get something like that, a couple of songs are glaringly missing (album version of TSIB, IYLSE?), and I'd wager they tried them out at least.

Unless part of Ally's signing on deal was that they played his remix.

WorzelG
04-20-2013, 03:04 AM
^^^
I always seem to end up liking the songs that can't be played live the most - same with Zero Sum and All the Love in the World!

Really wish htda would play some international dates though

GibbonBlack
04-20-2013, 06:53 AM
How has no one photoshopped this yet?


Because it's funny enough

Frozen Beach
04-28-2013, 04:05 PM
Is the track "The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters" a reference to Mick Karn's album "Dreams of Reason Produces Monsters" or is this a big coincidence?

sheepdean
04-28-2013, 04:10 PM
Is the track "The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters" a reference to Mick Karn's album "Dreams of Reason Produces Monsters" or is this a big coincidence?
No, it's a reference (as most likely was Karn's) to this etching (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sleep_of_Reason_Produces_Monsters)

Torgo
04-30-2013, 01:15 PM
Random question:

Does anyone know a 'suprefan' on youtube?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAsfY1tjgp8&list=UUJX5-3zZplexFf49rng5vMQ&index=18

This is their channel and one of their videos from the Pomona show.

Or -

Does anyone know a 'razorstarzz' on youtube?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_szW4XWEGPY&list=UU0ak_GSlDimia3f23S8n_zQ

This is their channel and one of their videos from the Las Vegas show.

If anyone knows how to reach them, please let us know (ppchevigny@filmssix.com) ! We're looking to have it donated in raw for the TOIOU project.

PQHooligan
04-30-2013, 01:18 PM
Random question:

Does anyone know a 'suprefan' on youtube?

I could be mistaken, but I swear they're the same person from the Coachella Message Boards:

http://www.coachella.com/forum/member.php?71-suprefan

Reaps
05-01-2013, 09:35 AM
"More new stuff coming today"

If it's another Keep it together remix i'll scream.. (in a painful way)

sheepdean
05-01-2013, 11:12 AM
I'm still holding out hope for that Peter Christopherson remix

screwdriver
05-01-2013, 11:39 AM
I'm still holding out hope for that Peter Christopherson remix

nope
http://www.thefader.com/2013/05/01/stream-how-to-destroy-angels_-between-the-spaces-sonoio-rework/

PhoenixML
05-01-2013, 02:48 PM
Awesome!

I now have a playlist called "How To Create Demons" with all 6 remix... I'm not entirely proud of the title, but hey!!

sheepdean
05-01-2013, 03:13 PM
Awesome!

I now have a playlist called "How To Create Demons" with all 6 remix... I'm not entirely proud of the title, but hey!!
How to shot web

butter_hole
05-01-2013, 04:17 PM
Suprefan: https://twitter.com/suprefan

poro765
05-01-2013, 08:41 PM
It suddenly occurred to me that Speaking in tongues is very similar to A Violet Fluid.
Just saying.. :D

BRoswell
05-01-2013, 09:50 PM
As a fan of Alessandro, I have to be honest and say that his remix of The Space In Between has kind of left me cold. I just think the mood is completely different from the original, and not in a good way.