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2005/10/01 - Los Angeles, CA [Hollywood Bowl]
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I'm sure someone will probably correct me on this, but here's the setlist as I remember it:

Pinion (Intro)
Love Is Not Enough
You Know What You Are?
Terrible Lie
The Line Begins To Blur
March Of The Pigs
The Frail
The Wretched
Closer ('The Only Time' Breakdown)
Burn
Gave Up
Eraser
Right Where It Belongs (version 2)
Beside You In Time
Wish
Sin
Only
Reptile
Suck
Hurt
The Hand That Feeds
Head Like A Hole

Here's a couple observations I had:

First, I think there was a technical malfunction when the band came onstage as there were no lights for the first 30 seconds to a minute of "Love is Not Enough". It was completely dark even while Trent was singing, and that just seemed odd if it was intentional. Second, it appeared that Trent's mic went out during the "Down In It" breakdown during "Closer" because there was no audible singing during that part, but I could see him on the screens singing into the mic. Third, it appears that we LA folk got shorted about two or three songs based on what they've been playing at the other shows so far. Other shows have been reporting the exact same setlist that we had but with the addition of songs like "Deep", "Getting Smaller", "Starfuckers, Inc" and "Not So Pretty Now". While we didn't get any of those songs, they didn't play anything else that hasn't shown up at every other show.

All in all it was a pretty good show, but it paled in comparison to the club show I went to in San Diego back last time they were here. I was somewhat surprised that the lighting setup wasn't too different from the club show (with the obvious exception of the screen that came down during "Eraser" through "Beside You In Time"). I had a great time, of course, but I was definitely a little surprised and disappointed when "Head Like a Hole" started, because I knew that we were getting a shorter show than everyone else had been getting. Maybe it's because they were using a new drummer though, who knows (they made no mention of that whatsoever, nor did they say anything about Jerome). The replacement drummer (whomever he was) did a good job though, and I have no complaints at all about his or anyone else's performance. I just wish it had been longer Sad

PS - It took fucking forever to get out of there.
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L :: Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:21 am :: :: Quote This Post ::
Jerome was there last night drumming.

The Hollywood bowl has a strict curfew at 11:00pm which may have been the reason why the set was slightly shorter by 2 or 3 songs
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L :: Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:36 am :: Profile :: Quote This Post :: PM
Yeah, I think the curfew probably had something to do with it. The set was definitely shorter than the shows I went to last week.

Great to see Jerome playing, but man, I hope he knows what he's doing. He was "okay" after the last episode too and he ends up in the hospital again. I did see Josh Freese standing talking to some people on the side of the stage while waiting for Autolux to come on, so I know he was there...and the word was pretty strong that he was going to be filling in. I was quite shocked when I looked over and saw Jerome. As I said, great that he was able to play, I just hope it's a wise decision that he continue on with the tour.

Great show, despite the shortness of the set, and great seats as well (3rd row center). Gotta love the Spiral.
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L :: Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:50 am :: :: Quote This Post ::
@Wildlams:

Reptile was only played at one or two of the other shows.
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Here's my so-called review of the show.

This was my first and only show of this tour.

First off, I don't think I'll see another fucking show at that place even if it's a double bill of a Roth era VH Reunion and Led Zep with Bonham reanimated in peak form. The place just has so many negatives for rock shows it's ridiculous. Just parking takes 45 minutes and they "stack" park cars in a huge tiered lot on a hill so if you're early, your car will be buried by hundreds of later arrivals and you may as well consign yourself to spending the night there because it'll take hours to get out. I bet there's still people waiting to get out thsi morning at 8am. I bypassed that whole fucking deal by parking kind of on a curb in this lot right next to the road out and sure enough, nobody was parked blocking me when the show let out so I was lucky enough to zip right out over the curb on onto the street after the show ended.

The other big negative is the lower sections about the first 1/2 of the bowl up to the "pool" seating in front of the stage (which is basically an orchestra pit with folding chairs) have "boxes" which are tiny fucking waist high cubicles about 4 ft x 6 ft with 4 folding chairs per box. It's virtually impossible to move around in these dinky things and anytime someone in the back pair of seats wants to go for whatever reason, the front guy next to the itty bitty opening has to move his chair out to free up the person in the back. Sitting is pretty much being crammed in business class on a jet and about as conducive to enjoying a concert.

Anyway, I got there really early, about 5:30 as I heard traffic would be fucked due to the fire in Burbank, freeway work and other bullshit. No such problems. Nice cool night, no smoke in the air from the fires. No traffic until I got on Highland which was already slow going 'til I parked.

After claiming my seat in my little cubicle, I went off in search of some sort of drink, only to find beer or wine was all they served. Fuck that. So I fiddled around with my shitty little digital camera for a while (they letpeople bring in any kind of camera which was cool although all my photos turned out like shit) and the opening band, Autolux came on and did their set for about 40 minutes. Nothing really mind blowing from this band, although the barefooted female drummer was kinda fun to watch. Music wise, pretty much like a 2nd generation Sonic Youth/Jesus and Mary Chain type of band.

Queens of the Stone Age came on around 8pm and played a pretty long and full set lasting well over an hour. I can't say I really enjoyed their set, although I liked their few well known tunes. However, their last song, "No One Knows" was stretched out and imo, screwed up with a craptacular guitar wankathon that was completely unnecessary. The band seemed pretty tight and although I heard Josh was drunk or fucked up at some other shows, he seemed focused and fine tonight. Also the keyboard player chick had one of the nicest racks I've seen on a musician, and yes, I'm talking boobies. One more thing, Josh Homme seems to be looking to pick up David Lee Roth's old habit of using the same (semi-funny) one-liners at every show, main one being (pointing to guy in audience) "you've seen more dick-ends then weekends." Ho ho. Come on Josh, gimme a break......

Nine Inch Nails came on around 9:15 and opened with the somewhat mellow "Love Is Not Enough"in a kind of understated way by keeping the band silhouetted behind a huge white transparent curtain. Trent Reznor has buffed himself up to a ridiculous degree complete with a nearly shaved head and is as intense a frontman as ever. I had the same reaction seeing the "new" Trent as I did the first time I saw Bruce Springsteen early in the "Born in the USA" tour in '84 when he went from skinny Jersy rocker to ultra buff bandanna rockstar.

Interestingly, the band's regular drummer, Jerome Dillon was playing tonight. Since I'd never seen him play before tonight, I don't know if he had more pre-recorded drum tracks backing him or not but I'd say more than 60% of any drumming I heard was taped or loops. Trent said absolutely nothing regarding the situation or even acknowledging Jerome at all throughout the show which was kind of weird.

One key thing right away was that this was the first NIN show I've ever seen where there was absolutely no moshing, slamming, crowd surfing, ect in the pit. The Bowl security basically passed out flyers when you entered saying if you did any of this stuff, you'd get booted from the show and I think that really put a damper on the pit crowd. Not that anyone could really jump around in their tiny little boxes, mind you but I'm sure it was a buzz kill for those in the pit. On the positive side, the asshole factor was pretty low and the crowd was a really varied mix of fans, long hairs, goths, tattoo nuts, etc including a lot more decent looking women then I've seen at any previous NIN show.

The first 1/3rd of the show was pretty hot and while I'm not 100% into the slightly different version of "Burn" they do this tour, I was real happy to hear that song as it's one of my favorites. It seems NIN has two slightly different setlists, the big difference that it's either Starfuckers or Reptile and Suck which is what we got which was fine by me. As a previous poster mentioned, we got a couple less songs then most shows this leg, no doubt due to the cerfew of 11:00pm.

The audience was reasonably into most of the show considering the limitations of the venue but the middle part with 3 songs performed (or sampled, heh) with the band behind the white curtain with movies projected on it of movie images of microbes, insects, birds primates then humans leading to all the bad shit mankind does to himself and the planet grew heavy handed after a few minutes and kind of killed the momentum which really didn't pick back up until the last few songs of the show. This segment seemed to show a new side of Reznor who appears to be moving away from his shtick of rejected angry psycho to more of a world weary observer of the human condition and the planet's ecology at large.

"Hurt" which was performed by Reznor alone on keyboards has regretfully become a big sing along anthem complete with hand waving and lighters like some sorta alterna-Stairway to Heaven. Trent shoulda said something like "this is a song Johnny Cash stole from me, I'm stealing it back."

Reptile and Suck back to back got back a lot of momentum and energy that the show and crowd seemed to lose up to that point. Head Like a Hole as always ended the show and right away the house lights came and there was no doubt that was it for the show at 11pm straight up.

Overall, a good show but not truly great like the best NIN shows I saw during the DS tour, especially the Hollywood Palace show on 4/19/94. I'm kicking myself that I didn't make the trip down to San Diego during the club leg earlier thsi year as I'm sure that was a hotter show.

T.B.
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It really was awesome to see Jerome playing!! I kept saying that was him and people around me kept insisting it was Josh! What what in da butt I am so glad I am not crazy after all!!

It was a great show, but I too was surprised to hear Head Like a Hole so soon; however, the rules of the Bowl strictly enforce curfew. Speaking of enforced, so was the security in the pool section whom would absolutely not allow anyone to stand up in the front until the show actually started, at which time many people ran....me included!! It was incredible to be up against the barrier without feeling as if I might die, though I did miss the intensity of pit more than I expected! I only hope Trent felt the love, and realized that the pool section crowd were being closely watched, and there seemed to me to be an impending threat of being forced back to our chairs; I know he really draws a lot from the crowd. Overall the crowd seemed really into it, and the fans in the "nose bleed" section were LOUD and really into it which was great! It appeared that this show may have been sold out?

QOTSA were great too!!! I saw them in San Diego and was a bit shocked at the lack of response by the crowd there, but in last night many seemed really into it and/or at least gave them the respect they deserve. I really enjoy this band!

I don't think anything will ever beat the San Diego show at Soma for me, but it was a great show.....as always!
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strongestrose wrote:
It was a great show, but I too was surprised to hear Head Like a Hole so soon; however, the rules of the Bowl strictly enforce curfew. Speaking of enforced, so was the security in the pool section whom would absolutely not allow anyone to stand up in the front until the show actually started, at which time many people ran....me included!! It was incredible to be up against the barrier without feeling as if I might die, though I did miss the intensity of pit more than I expected! I only hope Trent felt the love, and realized that the pool section crowd were being closely watched, and there seemed to me to be an impending threat of being forced back to our chairs; I know he really draws a lot from the crowd. Overall the crowd seemed really into it, and the fans in the "nose bleed" section were LOUD and really into it which was great! It appeared that this show may have been sold out?


Yeah, the show was deniately sold out. There was a little chalkboard on one of the security rooms that had the door open as people left after the show that had the attendence figure for the night and it was something like 13,500+ and said "sold out!"

T.B.
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Partyslammer wrote:
strongestrose wrote:
It was a great show, but I too was surprised to hear Head Like a Hole so soon; however, the rules of the Bowl strictly enforce curfew. Speaking of enforced, so was the security in the pool section whom would absolutely not allow anyone to stand up in the front until the show actually started, at which time many people ran....me included!! It was incredible to be up against the barrier without feeling as if I might die, though I did miss the intensity of pit more than I expected! I only hope Trent felt the love, and realized that the pool section crowd were being closely watched, and there seemed to me to be an impending threat of being forced back to our chairs; I know he really draws a lot from the crowd. Overall the crowd seemed really into it, and the fans in the "nose bleed" section were LOUD and really into it which was great! It appeared that this show may have been sold out?


Yeah, the show was deniately sold out. There was a little chalkboard on one of the security rooms that had the door open as people left after the show that had the attendence figure for the night and it was something like 13,500+ and said "sold out!"

T.B.


That is great to hear!! I also agree with you regarding the Hollywood Bowl. It is an absolutely gorgeous venue, but it is not ideal for the type of energy the is evoked at a NIN show. I would have loved it if he played three or four nights at at the Universal Amphitheater as he did for the Downward Spiral tour.......I just dated myself Sad
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We had no trouble parking, we took the advice of the people on this board and parked at the garage at Hollywood and Highland and took the bus. It was fast and cheap $8 total for bus and garage) We arrived at 6pm, chilled out until Autolux came on. I thought they were ok, the singer's voice reminded me of the guy from the Ocean Blue. Next, QOTSA, again ok and they are a pretty good rock and roll band with a So-Cal flavor (don't know where they are from) but I was there only for one band, NIN.

It was a beautiful night, a beautiful venue for beautiful music by a kick ass band. My seats were not very good, about half way up, thank goodness for the video screens, but I cannot even put into words how good this show was. I was pleasantly surprised to see Jerome.

I have two constructive criticisms:

1. Right Where it Belongs is my favorite song off of WT and one of my overall faves, and ya know what Trent, I want to see the emotion in your face when you are singing it, not a bunch of images of war and dead bodies, including babies. Put that on the video monitors and the panels in the back. Give me a choice, don't ram it down my throat. During Beside You In Time, the images and lighting worked for me but not during RWIB.

2. Please play 2 hours, the set was too short. The band is so tight and the energy was unbelievable. I did not want it to end.

My observations:
I love all the slower NIN songs but before Hurt was played I said to Rick (the nice guy I met who was dancing beside me all night), I really hope they don't play any more slow songs because the enegy was so high and then Hurt was played and somehow it worked for me. It was just amazing.

After last night I wish I would have bought GA tickets because of how rocking it was.

Also, With Teeth is not one of my favorite cds, it ranks last on my NIN list however, all the up tempo songs that were played live were so much better because they were heavier (like Terrible Lie) I wish somehow Trent could capture that in the studio, ya know give the songs more of an heavy edge. It would be great to have a live cd from this tour for that very reason, to have the WT stuff edgier.

My personal highlights: Suck and Wish, just awesome.

I cannot wait, three more weeks until Tampa and then Orlando. I hope to get Down in It at one of those shows.

Lastly, I could go all fan girl and tell you how incrediably good Trent looked and how I kept thinking how much I would love to just thank him for all his music has given to me but, I won't. Wink
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I just love going to the Bowl and I love that part of Hollywood. I've had many wonderful times over in that area at various functions. We parked down the hill off Hollywood Blvd. in a "club lot." No problems getting out.

Everyone was on their feet for most of the show and dancing around and singing. There was a lot of positive energy from the audience. Everyone seemed so ... happy! The sound was just fantastic and the performance was tight. I enjoyed every song. We liked the lighting, the fog stuff and the screen images.

*Reptile* ruled the night.

During *Closer* I thought to myself, "hmmm, I wonder if the neighbors are enjoying the show?"

It was one of my favorite rock concerts ever!

Props to my lovely friend who is always willing to go to NIN shows with me. That's a lot of love.

Trent looked cute.

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L :: Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:11 am :: :: Quote This Post ::
YES! The Hollywood Bowl has always been famous for hosting superstar bands when they come to Hollywood. The Beatles, The Stones, Jane's Addiction, etc...And yes, it IS a beautiful venue. But, the place was designed for an orchestra. And, as such, the sound is the most incredible you'll ever hear. Every seat in the house provides you with a beautiful place to "listen" to the music. Everything becomes clear in the mix - the vocals, the instruments, the keyboards/samples, everything.

I went to the SOMA show over Memorial Day also, and while the performance was incredible there, the sound kinda sucked - it was an old converted movie theater and the sound was bouncing all over the place stepping on itself.

The bad thing about the Bowl is that for actually SEEING the band, just about every seat behind the boxes SUCKS. The stage seems a mile away even when you're sitting in the middle of the bowl (as I was). But, I was happy to go see this show for the "overall" visual aspect - the projections, the backgrounds, the lights, it was all framed perfectly.

And, yes, also the damn Bowl has that stupid 11:00pm curfew because they don't want to "bother" the rich neighbors with late nite shenanigans. I was there for the classic Courtney Love/Jane's Addiction show a few years ago, and stupid crack whore Courtney Love played well beyond her alotted time....to the point where security had to DRAG her off the stage. It sucked, cause Jane's had to cut THEIR set short.

In my opinion, the HEADLINER should be the ones playing the FULL SET, and cut the opening acts short. I could have used 2-3 less songs from QOTSA for example.

I had heard rumours that NIN would play a 2hr15min set, but I was disappointed when the show started at 9:25pm. So, the whole set was only 1hr35min! So, that meant the songs were played in rapid succession with no in-between banter. I usually like to hear Trent make his little comments - or at least say "What's up Hollywood?" No such luck due to the time constraints.

Anyway, I also thought this was a replacement drummer, and I was very impressed with how quickly this replacement drummer was able to learn the changes and the songs, etc....I find out that it's Jerome and now it makes sense. But, I share the sentiment from previous posters that I hope the doctor's in L.A. gave him a green light and that he's not being put in danger as Trent stated a few days ago.

NIN impresses again! Such powerful, rocking music with an "art" element. I can't wait for another show.

-jimjones3
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L :: Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:33 am :: :: Quote This Post ::
The show last night was amazing, I don't care what people say about the Bowl, the show was awesome! I didn't have good seats, I was in section S, way in the back but I was right in the middle, a good enough view to see all the crazy shit on the stage. The only downer of the show was the people behind us, this girl would shut up. She was laying down, taking up everyone's seat while her ugly butt was laying there. One of the guys was standing up in front of his seat sat down during the little movie that was showing up there. Then we all hear this scream, this girl was already drunk and during QOTSA, she was just begging for attention, so she made the biggest deal out of this. She would shut up, the guy apologized and everything but she would shut up. Everyone just kept on staring at her, I could tell he loved the attention even though she made that guy feel like crap. I felt like bashing her head on the seats. I hate the back of the bowl, too many drunks, but I love the View! Again, the show was awesome and my parking was awesome, we got there like around 8 and saw the stack parking across the bowl and it was $18! FOR STACK PARKING! Everyone in our car said fuck that, so then we get lost and end up in Mulholland Drive. After we found our way back I knew there would be cheaper parking down by Hollywood and Highland, we paid $7 for awesome parking and we got to see Michael Jackson and Anikin Skywalker. I loved our parking as much as I loved the SHOW! Trent gave awesome performance, it seemed kindda fast pace but I knew we had to be out of there by 11. THE WHOLE FREAKING experience WAS AWESOME!
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the sound was fucking amazing though....
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I really wish the audience would have responded more, it seem like trent was pushing for more from the audience I've seen them more than ten times now, and I have to say this was the best I've seen them on stage... trent's energy was amazing ... it great on the part of the band ... if-I about the crowed...
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jimjones3 wrote:
YES! The Hollywood Bowl has always been famous for hosting superstar bands when they come to Hollywood. The Beatles, The Stones, Jane's Addiction, etc...And yes, it IS a beautiful venue. But, the place was designed for an orchestra. And, as such, the sound is the most incredible you'll ever hear. Every seat in the house provides you with a beautiful place to "listen" to the music. Everything becomes clear in the mix - the vocals, the instruments, the keyboards/samples, everything.


Yeah, that's something I didn't comment on, which was the sound was excellent even though I was way off to the side on the 900's level of the boxes. I just hate being cooped up in the fucking little boxes though.

jimjones3 wrote:
And, yes, also the damn Bowl has that stupid 11:00pm curfew because they don't want to "bother" the rich neighbors with late nite shenanigans. I was there for the classic Courtney Love/Jane's Addiction show a few years ago, and stupid crack whore Courtney Love played well beyond her alotted time....to the point where security had to DRAG her off the stage. It sucked, cause Jane's had to cut THEIR set short.
-jimjones3


HA! I was also at that Jane's show. Man, I was so pissed that they had to cut their set down. As it was, the show was amazing with the quick Porno for Pyros reunion. I was willing to give Cuntny Love a break and judge her soly on whatever quality her music has but after her attention-seeking bullshit that night, fuck her!

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in case you guys didnt notice you actually got a longer set list, with reptile and suck substituting missed songs.
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in case you guys didnt notice you actually got a longer set list, with reptile and suck substituting missed songs.


Not really. The 11/1/05 show didn't get "Getting Smaller" which has been in the sets the last couple weeks that include Reptile and Suck.

As it stands, the show was fine. I would have loved to hear a few of my own personal favs get played, but what are the odds of Perfect Drug, Heresy and Last showing up, huh?

T.B.
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Well, what can I say? Thank goodness I finally got to see a full show (After the misfortune of San Diego)

We had a great time. Parking was a bitch and a half but we were onne of the first ones to leave so it only took like 20-30min getting out of there tops. We got there at about 3:30p and heard most of the soundcheck, etc. As far as I could tell there was no sort of M&G or ay "extra" Spiral goodies. Speaking of The Spiral, it was a little stressful gettig our tickets. First the person that actually had the tickets was stuck in traffic or something ridiculous like that. Then, we got up there to pick up our tickets and they could not find them! Brandi was very sympathetic, but it was kinda like....uh wtf? We were told to just stand aside until they could figure it out. Turned out the tickets, (which were purchased through my bf's Spiral account but paid with my credit card) were under my name instead of his. Odd, but okay...whatever?

Got into the veue early which I do have to say is awesome because there's no lines at the merch stands and we were able to get drinks before the masses (17,000+) were allowed in. We found our seats and then we decided to go up to the Rooftop Grill. I wish I would have known about making reservations!! However, after we got sat it wsa the PERFECT way to start the night. We had drinks and the mosst excellent (if not slightly overpriced) food. A bottle of champagne for me later and we sat down to hear the second half of Autolux.

The pool circle seats were excellent! I found it refreshing to not have to deal with a pit (for once) and be able to really experience NIN up close without having an arm in my side and sweat all over me all night. Smile

I thought the performance was overall full of great energy. There seemed to have been some minor technical problems with Trent's mic, as discussed earlier in this thread, but to me, it didn't take away from the experience....it only adds to the raw 'realness' of the band. I would be yawning if I saw a band perform perfectly everytime. I was a little dissapointed about the setlist, but I was happy to see Jerome and the drums and to hear Reptile. Smile I agree that the setlist was probably shortened to accomodate the venue. TR did mention this was anegative setback to arena tours.

And I was sooo close! Although, I'd have to say....I don't think I would ever go to a Bowl performance if I had anything further back then pool circle or first 3 rows of terrace. I mean, those ppl behind us were like a mile away! *shrugz*

Oh and a big FUCK YOU to the security guard who freaked out about a Zippo. What what in da butt.

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Jerome was on FIRE.

Watching him pound the shit out of the drums on Reptile. . .brought a little smile to my face.

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