selection7 wrote:
Regarding audio, did the people behind "thisoneisonus" have multitrack audio from the soundboard to mix this concert? If not, who mixed it? If so, I want those files. How do I get them?
(it is not mentioned in the torrents that supposedly have the source material, nor the FAQ, and this echoingthesound's search engine only returns the whole thread, not the post, when you do a search for "multitrack", so I had no reasonably quick way to search all these pages of threads).
(it is not mentioned in the torrents that supposedly have the source material, nor the FAQ, and this echoingthesound's search engine only returns the whole thread, not the post, when you do a search for "multitrack", so I had no reasonably quick way to search all these pages of threads).
Check out Aaron's answer in the RITC interview: http://www.reflectinginthechrome.com/avottinterview.php
serotoninXxX wrote:
It'll just be a DVD, and maybe a torrent of the raw files. I'm sure one of you chaps will whip up an iPod version if there's demand.
How is an iPod version of an extras dvd going to work, or will there just not be one?
I hope the blu-ray download comes soon, so we can test it and broadcast at our screening 20Feb.
neubaut wrote:
I hope the blu-ray download comes soon, so we can test it and broadcast at our screening 20Feb.
It will definitely be out by then. Actually, we're hoping that it's done within the next couple weeks...
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I can't read through 75 pages, so please forgive me if this has been addressed....
I finally got the DL to burn properly, after buying a new DL burner :) There is a problem, and I don't know if it is on my end, or if is common.
The menu text is so very small, it is virtually unreadable in the setup menu and the song selections menu. I realize that's just how it is.....but the setup and song menus do not have a cursor, or anything to let me know what I've selected. Or...maybe it's just too small to see. But either way, I have no idea what's been selected.
Is everyone's copies like that, or was it a problem that was fixed with a new download that I missed? Or somehow did I burn it wrong? (using imgburn).
Other than the menu issue I think this is absolutely great!! Thx to everyone who contributed!
I finally got the DL to burn properly, after buying a new DL burner :) There is a problem, and I don't know if it is on my end, or if is common.
The menu text is so very small, it is virtually unreadable in the setup menu and the song selections menu. I realize that's just how it is.....but the setup and song menus do not have a cursor, or anything to let me know what I've selected. Or...maybe it's just too small to see. But either way, I have no idea what's been selected.
Is everyone's copies like that, or was it a problem that was fixed with a new download that I missed? Or somehow did I burn it wrong? (using imgburn).
Other than the menu issue I think this is absolutely great!! Thx to everyone who contributed!
From what I've heard it's a bug that affects a few people's players. 
I had a pretty awesome idea that would solve the problem of everyone begging for a blu-ray copy.
If someone made a version that had the show separated into parts so they could be authored as blu-ray on DVD DL discs. better than having no blu-ray at all. I'm gonna try it if no one else is interested.
If someone made a version that had the show separated into parts so they could be authored as blu-ray on DVD DL discs. better than having no blu-ray at all. I'm gonna try it if no one else is interested.
icklekitty wrote:
Check out Aaron's answer in the RITC interview: http://www.reflectinginthechrome.com/avottinterview.php
selection7 wrote:
Regarding audio, did the people behind "thisoneisonus" have multitrack audio from the soundboard to mix this concert? If not, who mixed it? If so, I want those files. How do I get them?
Check out Aaron's answer in the RITC interview: http://www.reflectinginthechrome.com/avottinterview.php
Hey, thanks for that link. The interview basically explained that Aaron Short mixed it from audio masters available for the him and his team's other editors. Since there was no mention of it, apparently these multitrack masters haven't yet been released, but unless Trent told them not to, I highly doubt Aaron and co. wouldn't be willing to release them eventually...wouldn't be very much in the spirit of the AVOTT project to hoard them. I assume feedback@thisoneisonus.org is the best way to get in touch? Or are the thisoneisonus editors keeping up with and posting within this thread?
selection7 wrote:
Hey, thanks for that link. The interview basically explained that Aaron Short mixed it from audio masters available for the him and his team's other editors. Since there was no mention of it, apparently these multitrack masters haven't yet been released, but unless Trent told them not to, I highly doubt Aaron and co. wouldn't be willing to release them eventually...wouldn't be very much in the spirit of the AVOTT project to hoard them. I assume feedback@thisoneisonus.org is the best way to get in touch? Or are the thisoneisonus editors keeping up with and posting within this thread?
icklekitty wrote:
Check out Aaron's answer in the RITC interview: http://www.reflectinginthechrome.com/avottinterview.php
selection7 wrote:
Regarding audio, did the people behind "thisoneisonus" have multitrack audio from the soundboard to mix this concert? If not, who mixed it? If so, I want those files. How do I get them?
Check out Aaron's answer in the RITC interview: http://www.reflectinginthechrome.com/avottinterview.php
Hey, thanks for that link. The interview basically explained that Aaron Short mixed it from audio masters available for the him and his team's other editors. Since there was no mention of it, apparently these multitrack masters haven't yet been released, but unless Trent told them not to, I highly doubt Aaron and co. wouldn't be willing to release them eventually...wouldn't be very much in the spirit of the AVOTT project to hoard them. I assume feedback@thisoneisonus.org is the best way to get in touch? Or are the thisoneisonus editors keeping up with and posting within this thread?
There weren't any multi-tracks - I think. It was just an audio rip directly from the 400 gigs of footage that was uploaded at nin.com.
Torgo wrote:
There weren't any multi-tracks - I think. It was just an audio rip directly from the 400 gigs of footage that was uploaded at nin.com.
There weren't any multi-tracks - I think. It was just an audio rip directly from the 400 gigs of footage that was uploaded at nin.com.
Why do you think that? Conventional wisdom is that you don't take on this kind of enormous project with respect to video and not have more than a 2-channel as-is recording from the live soundboard. Otherwise, that would mean someone at NIN had to professionally mix the live concerts before sending them on to the fans, which is also not in the spirit of the project, since it takes the most crucial aspect of the editing project (the music) out of the creativity of the fans' hands.
But as I reread the interview, it's not really clear, is it? so you could be right. Does anyone know?
selection7 wrote:
Why do you think that? Conventional wisdom is that you don't take on this kind of enormous project with respect to video and not have more than a 2-channel as-is recording from the live soundboard. Otherwise, that would mean someone at NIN had to professionally mix the live concerts before sending them on to the fans, which is also not in the spirit of the project, since it takes the most crucial aspect of the editing project (the music) out of the creativity of the fans' hands.
But as I reread the interview, it's not really clear, is it? so you could be right. Does anyone know?
Torgo wrote:
There weren't any multi-tracks - I think. It was just an audio rip directly from the 400 gigs of footage that was uploaded at nin.com.
There weren't any multi-tracks - I think. It was just an audio rip directly from the 400 gigs of footage that was uploaded at nin.com.
Why do you think that? Conventional wisdom is that you don't take on this kind of enormous project with respect to video and not have more than a 2-channel as-is recording from the live soundboard. Otherwise, that would mean someone at NIN had to professionally mix the live concerts before sending them on to the fans, which is also not in the spirit of the project, since it takes the most crucial aspect of the editing project (the music) out of the creativity of the fans' hands.
But as I reread the interview, it's not really clear, is it? so you could be right. Does anyone know?
Someone in the NIN Camp did professionally mix the audio before release (Blumpy, I'm guessing). From what I remember, that exact mix was taken from the video that was released and fixed a bit for our release. You'd have to ask Aaron directly to know what he did as far as audio mixing and what not.
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Torgo wrote:
Someone in the NIN Camp did professionally mix the audio before release (Blumpy, I'm guessing). From what I remember, that exact mix was taken from the video that was released and fixed a bit for our release. You'd have to ask Aaron directly to know what he did as far as audio mixing and what not.
Yeh the audio was mixed together by Aaron from 3 pre-mixed soundboard recordings. The mixes weren't done professionally (or if they were, not much time was spent on them). IMO the bass and drums sounded pretty nice but the vocals were too loud and the guitar and synth were way to quiet, especially in a few parts.
It wouldve been nice insanely awesome to have a mull multi-track recording to mix and it probably would have come out better in the end, but that's not how it went, which is a pity.
I hope whoever did mix those 3 shows doesnt read this and get offended, What what in da butt.
selection7 wrote:
Hey, thanks for that link. The interview basically explained that Aaron Short mixed it from audio masters available for the him and his team's other editors. Since there was no mention of it, apparently these multitrack masters haven't yet been released, but unless Trent told them not to, I highly doubt Aaron and co. wouldn't be willing to release them eventually...wouldn't be very much in the spirit of the AVOTT project to hoard them. I assume feedback@thisoneisonus.org is the best way to get in touch? Or are the thisoneisonus editors keeping up with and posting within this thread?
icklekitty wrote:
Check out Aaron's answer in the RITC interview: http://www.reflectinginthechrome.com/avottinterview.php
selection7 wrote:
Regarding audio, did the people behind "thisoneisonus" have multitrack audio from the soundboard to mix this concert? If not, who mixed it? If so, I want those files. How do I get them?
Check out Aaron's answer in the RITC interview: http://www.reflectinginthechrome.com/avottinterview.php
Hey, thanks for that link. The interview basically explained that Aaron Short mixed it from audio masters available for the him and his team's other editors. Since there was no mention of it, apparently these multitrack masters haven't yet been released, but unless Trent told them not to, I highly doubt Aaron and co. wouldn't be willing to release them eventually...wouldn't be very much in the spirit of the AVOTT project to hoard them. I assume feedback@thisoneisonus.org is the best way to get in touch? Or are the thisoneisonus editors keeping up with and posting within this thread?
I don't really understand what you're getting at. Aaron Short mixed the audio for AVOTT. You asked if there were multitracks, and if there weren't, who mixed them. As the link I posted explains, he took the 3 audio mixes released by Rob, and combined them into one (Quote from the interview: "Because The Gift had soundboard audio already supplied by NIN camp, it was more a matter of selecting the best audio to use from the 3 shows, and then of course being able to master and upmix it to 5.1 surround sound"). There was no "audio made available for him and his teams of other editors" - nobody gave him any special audio, and he had no team of editors. Trent didn't give him any special multitracks that he's hoarding. Everything available to him has been available to everyone since the 405GB was released.
You have been talking to thisoneisonus editors - Torgo and I produced the thing, and sa_nick was a head editor.
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icklekitty wrote:
The interview basically explained that Aaron Short mixed it from audio masters available for the him and his team's other editors.
I don't really understand what you're getting at. Aaron Short mixed the audio for AVOTT. You asked if there were multitracks, and if there weren't, who mixed them. As the link I posted explains, he took the 3 audio mixes released by Rob, and combined them into one (Quote from the interview: "Because The Gift had soundboard audio already supplied by NIN camp, it was more a matter of selecting the best audio to use from the 3 shows, and then of course being able to master and upmix it to 5.1 surround sound"). There was no "audio made available for him and his teams of other editors" - nobody gave him any special audio, and he had no team of editors. Trent didn't give him any special multitracks that he's hoarding. Everything available to him has been available to everyone since the 405GB was released.
You have been talking to thisoneisonus editors - Torgo and I produced the thing, and sa_nick was a head editor.
The interview basically explained that Aaron Short mixed it from audio masters available for the him and his team's other editors.
I don't really understand what you're getting at. Aaron Short mixed the audio for AVOTT. You asked if there were multitracks, and if there weren't, who mixed them. As the link I posted explains, he took the 3 audio mixes released by Rob, and combined them into one (Quote from the interview: "Because The Gift had soundboard audio already supplied by NIN camp, it was more a matter of selecting the best audio to use from the 3 shows, and then of course being able to master and upmix it to 5.1 surround sound"). There was no "audio made available for him and his teams of other editors" - nobody gave him any special audio, and he had no team of editors. Trent didn't give him any special multitracks that he's hoarding. Everything available to him has been available to everyone since the 405GB was released.
You have been talking to thisoneisonus editors - Torgo and I produced the thing, and sa_nick was a head editor.
Oh hey then, great job on the release! This is something pretty special.
Anyway, the interview specifically said "audio masters had been made for editors", while not saying they weren't multitrack and not saying they were made available to everyone else too. That quote you posted also doesn't clarify those two things. And I never assumed Aaron was hoarding, I just thought maybe no one had asked him for the multis yet.
Having said that, Trent and co. are obviously extremely impressed and pleased with your work...have you ever considered just asking him/them for the mulitracks? Considering what you've shown so far he might be happy to...and you've still yet to release your final version anyway. As I pointed out, it'd be more in the spirit of seeing what the fans can come up with for Trent to let the individual audio instrument tracks to be mixed together by fans in the similar way that the different video feeds were mixed/edited together by fans.
selection7 wrote:
Oh hey then, great job on the release! This is something pretty special.
Anyway, the interview specifically said "audio masters had been made for video editors",
icklekitty wrote:
The interview basically explained that Aaron Short mixed it from audio masters available for the him and his team's other editors.
I don't really understand what you're getting at. Aaron Short mixed the audio for AVOTT. You asked if there were multitracks, and if there weren't, who mixed them. As the link I posted explains, he took the 3 audio mixes released by Rob, and combined them into one (Quote from the interview: "Because The Gift had soundboard audio already supplied by NIN camp, it was more a matter of selecting the best audio to use from the 3 shows, and then of course being able to master and upmix it to 5.1 surround sound"). There was no "audio made available for him and his teams of other editors" - nobody gave him any special audio, and he had no team of editors. Trent didn't give him any special multitracks that he's hoarding. Everything available to him has been available to everyone since the 405GB was released.
You have been talking to thisoneisonus editors - Torgo and I produced the thing, and sa_nick was a head editor.
The interview basically explained that Aaron Short mixed it from audio masters available for the him and his team's other editors.
I don't really understand what you're getting at. Aaron Short mixed the audio for AVOTT. You asked if there were multitracks, and if there weren't, who mixed them. As the link I posted explains, he took the 3 audio mixes released by Rob, and combined them into one (Quote from the interview: "Because The Gift had soundboard audio already supplied by NIN camp, it was more a matter of selecting the best audio to use from the 3 shows, and then of course being able to master and upmix it to 5.1 surround sound"). There was no "audio made available for him and his teams of other editors" - nobody gave him any special audio, and he had no team of editors. Trent didn't give him any special multitracks that he's hoarding. Everything available to him has been available to everyone since the 405GB was released.
You have been talking to thisoneisonus editors - Torgo and I produced the thing, and sa_nick was a head editor.
Oh hey then, great job on the release! This is something pretty special.
Anyway, the interview specifically said "audio masters had been made for video editors",
^ is that clearer? Video editors need audio to edit to, or vice versa.
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while not saying 1)they weren't multitrack and not saying 2)they were made available to everyone else too. That quote you posted also doesn't clarify those two things.
Ok, so 1) I answered here:
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As the link I posted explains, he took the 3 audio mixes released by Rob, and combined them into one (Quote from the interview: "Because The Gift had soundboard audio already supplied by NIN camp, it was more a matter of selecting the best audio to use from the 3 shows, and then of course being able to master and upmix it to 5.1 surround sound").
and 2) I answered here:
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There was no "audio made available for him and his teams of other editors" - nobody gave him any special audio, and he had no team of editors. Trent didn't give him any special multitracks that he's hoarding. Everything available to him has been available to everyone since the 405GB was released.
This is the first time the notion of multitracks has ever come up IIRC. Nobody's considered just asking him, because nobody's that concerned with getting them by the looks of things. You could ask, as your original post said that you wanted multitrack audio?
Another misunderstanding. I never said you didn't clarify whether multitracks were released (both you and sa_nick plainly clarified it...thank you!), I said that quote you listed (and the whole interview even) doesn't clarify it because you seemed, to me at least, oddly concerned with how I should have known just from the interview. I was just pointing out I couldn't have...but whatever, if you're right then there's something I'm missing, which is fine since it doesn't matter anymore:)
With respect to interest, I think you really underestimate. Heck, just a few posts above from your own team...
With respect to interest, I think you really underestimate. Heck, just a few posts above from your own team...
sa_nick wrote:
It wouldve been nice insanely awesome to have a mull multi-track recording to mix and it probably would have come out better in the end, but that's not how it went, which is a pity.
I guarantee you there's interest. The issue is getting NIN to respond. I still think it makes sense that you guys being involved in this project's success makes you better suited to get Trent to act IMO, but I'd write 'em if for some reason everyone else is shy. I have the delusion that I could mix the hell out of it anyway (having a fan's ear and personally being tired of past NIN mixes that don't capture the power of NIN's sound). But I figure at least Aaron should be contacted first.
It wouldve been nice insanely awesome to have a mull multi-track recording to mix and it probably would have come out better in the end, but that's not how it went, which is a pity.
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One-Click-Hoster download links
Another Version of the Truth: The Gift // Blu-Ray Disc > click me
Another Version of the Truth: The Gift // DLDVD > click me
Another Version of the Truth: Bonus // SLDVD > click me
NIN TDS Live // SLDVD > click me
NIN TDS Live // HD 720p M4V > click me
NIN Live in Australia 2008 // SLDVD > click me
PLEASE NOTE that although these releases are FREE and have the full support of NIN and their current management, that the rights to songs from Broken to Year Zero are owned by UMG (Interscope), and the rights of songs from Pretty Hate Machine are (I think) owned by Rykodisc Records. We DO NOT have permission from the rights holders to release this bootleg recording. If this was an official release, we would need to have that. We have had a note in our FAQ since project inception asking them to get in touch if they'd like to work with us, but they have so far declined to do so. Just thought we should clarify.
Another Version of the Truth: The Gift // Blu-Ray Disc > click me
Another Version of the Truth: The Gift // DLDVD > click me
Another Version of the Truth: Bonus // SLDVD > click me
NIN TDS Live // SLDVD > click me
NIN TDS Live // HD 720p M4V > click me
NIN Live in Australia 2008 // SLDVD > click me
PLEASE NOTE that although these releases are FREE and have the full support of NIN and their current management, that the rights to songs from Broken to Year Zero are owned by UMG (Interscope), and the rights of songs from Pretty Hate Machine are (I think) owned by Rykodisc Records. We DO NOT have permission from the rights holders to release this bootleg recording. If this was an official release, we would need to have that. We have had a note in our FAQ since project inception asking them to get in touch if they'd like to work with us, but they have so far declined to do so. Just thought we should clarify.
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Is there a program that I can get to split up the file for my external. I want to plug it into my PS3 and watch it but the file is 9 gigs and it wont go on. Is there something I can do to split the file?