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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    Ha no. Remember the “Everything” hoopla? Poor guy scraped it’s release because, well, I don’t really know why. The online reaction messed with him. If it was really his decision, then fan opinions wouldn’t get in the way.
    Yeah but he put it on a record and then stands by its existence regardless of public fallout like most of Pretty Hate Machine for example, which you can tell he dislikes somewhat but appreciates still as a reference point for where he was in his life. "Everything" is where he was at that point in his life and I can't argue against it. The man puts his feelings in his music and the people shit on it, of course he's gonna be upset when people don't like his feelings because alot of people believe Trent is a very angsty negative dude and can't be positive ever. I'm pretty sure he doesn't hate the song he just hates how people reacted to that side of him and that's understandable.

    I feel like people just don't like straight forward upbeat rock NIN. Songs like "Getting Smaller" and "Not So Pretty Now" are polarizing to fans and now "Everything" has joined it. I like all three. Just my opinion.
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    ^ saw that reference on Raw, I marked out lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by streetman View Post
    Sorry to be that guy but this looks like bad photoshopped fan art.
    While I dig the Russell Mills aesthetic, I definitely understand why those weren't chosen for official album art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    While I dig the Russell Mills aesthetic, I definitely understand why those weren't chosen for official album art.
    I think I saw those on fan-made wallpaper packs back in 2002 when I first discovered NIN and thought that someone had just photoshopped them. Whoops!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post

    source

    this made me laugh so hard
    Good ol' Boat. One of the best. He drops NIN references now and then. Also a Rocket / Night Marchers / Hot Snakes fan. Good follow, that account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheddamash View Post
    Despite the audio issues
    Ugh, panning the voices HARD left & right made the podcast unlistenable. I had to bust out my Klipsch in-ear headphones to seal out enough background noise to hear the conversation.

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    Just re-watched the video for Less Than and noticed a bunch of arms pointing downwards. May be a reference to God's arm in The Wretched, or more probably, The Presence, given AV's connections with YZ.

    These are throughout the video but most noticeable in the break from about 2:40 onwards.

    Apologies if this has been discussed before.

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    Why is almost everybody talking as if She's Gone Away hadn't already happened? I guess it's a question of her singing lead rather than backing vocals, but still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shunt View Post
    Why is almost everybody talking as if She's Gone Away hadn't already happened? I guess it's a question of her singing lead rather than backing vocals, but still...
    Naw, it's not so much that I want her to sing LEAD. I just think it might be cool if it was a little louder and more noticeable. Like, I didn't know she was on She's Gone Away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Naw, it's not so much that I want her to sing LEAD. I just think it might be cool if it was a little louder and more noticeable. Like, I didn't know she was on She's Gone Away.
    yeah you did, because you watched twin peaks while the stage "performance" was mock, her vocals have always been in the song (and also credited in the P.C. / liner notes)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    yeah you did, because you watched twin peaks while the stage "performance" was mock, her vocals have always been in the song (and also credited in the P.C. / liner notes)
    See I honestly just thought she was onstage in twin peaks for the fuck of it. Seriously.
    It's no surprise; you guys have accused me of being deaf before lololol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    See I honestly just thought she was onstage in twin peaks for the fuck of it. Seriously.
    It's no surprise; you guys have accused me of being deaf before lololol.
    Your comment reminded me of this video :P But in Yoko's case, her input cannot pass unnoticed


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shunt View Post
    Why is almost everybody talking as if She's Gone Away hadn't already happened? I guess it's a question of her singing lead rather than backing vocals, but still...
    I mentioned it in my post 6 posts above yours. Subtle backing vocals are fine, but if She's going to be singing lead, I think it should be considered a HTDA track. Apparently they feel the same, because their cover of "Is Your Love Strong Enough?" is credited as HTDA, despite being on a score by "Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross." One might expect it to be listed as "Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross, and Mariqueen Maandig Reznor" or "Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross (featuring Mariqueen Maandig Reznor)," much like the cover of Immigrant Song that features Karen O on vocals from the same score... but it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    I mentioned it in my post 6 posts above yours.

    And that's exactly why I said almost​ everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shunt View Post
    And that's exactly why I said almost​ everybody.
    Fair enough. Maybe I didn't read your post closely enough.

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    I don't know, the vocals are pretty low in the mix and buried in reverb, but I think it's quite discernible they come from a female voice.
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    Anyone who thought Everything was in any way a "happy" song didn't read the lyrics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sick among the pure View Post
    Anyone who thought Everything was in any way a "happy" song didn't read the lyrics.
    Then why did they make the video so happy?


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    wish i could go to the vegas shows....

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    So uh, I'm pretty sure Trent sampled Kraftwerk on "Not Anymore."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooneimportant View Post
    So uh, I'm pretty sure Trent sampled Kraftwerk on "Not Anymore."

    Can you be more specific? At least from memory I didn't find anything obvious.

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    The drum pattern at the start is kinda similar, but no way is it a sample. Sounds like a different synth, to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shunt View Post
    Can you be more specific? At least from memory I didn't find anything obvious.
    I was referring to the percussion sound in the first couple of seconds. It could be a complete coincidence that it sounds the same. Who knows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooneimportant View Post
    I was referring to the percussion sound in the first couple of seconds. It could be a complete coincidence that it sounds the same. Who knows?
    Well, as botley said, the pattern is certainly similar, but not the same, and I think it would be hard to get rid of the delay and phasing effects, even with filtering, gating to morph it into Not Anymore.

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    Nothing is the worst April Fools joke

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    NIN Song transitions ranked:

    3) 999,999 to 1,000,000
    2) The Frail to The Wretched
    1) Closer to The Ruiner

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    0) The Somewhat Damaged to The The Day The World Went Away

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    The line begins to blur to besides you in time

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    - Pinion into Wish
    - Eater of Dreams into Copy of A

    Most NIN albums have a great introduction.

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    The Mark Has Been Made --> Wish

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