Down, but not out.
Well, in that case, I hope he stubbornly ends up playing Kinda I Want To, That's What I Get, and Everything. And well, I can't seem to be bothered, especially after all those times I've watched Closure. It doesn't seem to phase me at all.Originally Posted by jessamineny
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yeah this is getting weird im out
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VMOE: I had the same problem with it last night on the broadcast as I did at the Atlanta show two weeks ago. It just doesn't sound big enough. The verses are too bare live. Something isn't coming through the way it should. I don't know what it is.
All time low was fucking great tho. I love that song.
Last edited by sweeterthan; 11-08-2013 at 04:04 PM.
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Sanctified, CBH and THTF videos plz?
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man, the official version has really great quality -- LOVIN' VMOE. Keep listening to it...
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Why didn't he sing this part?
An effigy so wondrous to behold
Statements so profound
A place to bury everything I did
And burn it to the ground
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I couldn't tell if it was a fuck up or if he was purposely shortening it to fit the time slotted.
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It would've only added like less than 30 seconds to the song so I'm thinking a fuck up.
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i'm guessing the time constraint on the televised music performance is capped at 4:30-5:00 minutes, so the song would have needed to be shortened. also,it would make sense if VMOE would up being a single, that the radio edit would cut out half of the second verse. it's a pretty solid rule of thumb for singles to have shorter second verses, so you reach the chorus quicker.
EDIT: it definitely was intentional, whatever the reasoning. remember, they play to backing tracks. evenif trent fucked up, the entire length of the second verse's backing track still would have played.
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But the band came in for the chorus right on time. That's what makes me think it's not a fuck up.
Last edited by sweeterthan; 11-08-2013 at 04:38 PM.
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Stupid TV and its OCD time constraints.
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wait, what's the purpose?
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this is some intense internet quarterbackingAside from the song itself, I think Trent's two-fisted grip on the mic blocked the view of his face so much, it made him feel less accessible, again leading to click...goodbye. But I do love those drop crotch pants.
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Me too. I've only been able to download 720p. Anyone figured out how to download the 1080p version?
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Yeah, I can't decide if they put more energy into the song than usual or it was the jumpiness. Can we get a whole show shot like this?EDIT: love the glitching out your camera is doing in THTF. with the original music video in mind, it almost seems intentional.
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I wonder if in three years from now this will be regarded as "remember the time when Trent put those black chics in leather while imitating Bowie riffs and singing EDIETS part two on late night tv? Ah, good times..."
Yeah, I'm not a fan of the new line up. It feels forced. But then again, a lot of NIN feels forced in hindsight.
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My philosophy is, Never question a musician's stage outfit.
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I think VMOE was good but wow, the mixing sucked some serious ass. It sounded really bare and flat..
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Yeah, I've been grumbling about it too after hearing a few of the bootlegs. It was my first favorite song from the album, but I'm not feeling it live.
Ironically, I think the weird mix actually helped it a bit — the choruses had more punch.
Speaking of which, my theory about the mix: Kimmel's people mixed it that way because most people are gonna listen to it through the crappy speakers built into their TV, not a surround system (even assuming they have one). It's a talk show, not a movie.
I've listened to both songs through headphones and then through my laptop speakers, and it sounds like they're making the best of a really bad situation.
On the flipside, with decent speakers/headphones you can really hear what Pino is doing.
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That's probably the best way to look at it. If every artist was judged by what they wore, you wouldn't have BowieMy philosophy is, Never question a musician's stage outfit.
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I only laugh because this chick wears those non stop. Come on Trent.... Come on.
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I liked your post because I agree that it didn't sound big enough on Kimmel, but I think it sounded gorgeous in actual concert. It did in Orlando, anyway.
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YAH! just like that time he published the Everything videO just to thumb his nose at the haters...or not.
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I still think that Various Methods of Escape was a really odd choice for a TV show. I like the song very much, but I think they could go with something that has a little more mass appeal. As much as the fans would whine, getting the single version of Came Back Haunted or even Everything on TV would probably cause a bigger impact with viewers. And being on TV for two songs is about getting more attention, not pleasing superfans.
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I feel like the song's too slow for a late night TV show, without anything else to hold it up beyond lyrics. Don't get me wrong, VMOE is one of my absolute favorite songs on the album, but I don't think a casual/non fan would be drawn in by it. My roommates certainly weren't. It didn't help that that performance sliced out a lot and was horribly mixed.
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Poor TR, his voice just isn't cutting it anymore. I think he would have been better off with the HTDA plan of having a female lead(but maybe calling it NIN if he is so concerned with selling records).
I really think if he wants to keep doing the lead vocals for NIN he needs to totally change his vocal style (and not just singing lower).
Anyway, VMOE is a great song, and I think with a better mix it still has potential live. But i agree that it is a weird song to try and pull in new fans. Maybe if they had executed better.
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Of the songs they played, All Time Low would have been my choice for the showcase song. But wouldn't In Two have been perfect for holding the attention of people who don't know anything about NIN? It grabs you right from the start, and then just when it seems like it's going to let you go, that slow build tightens its grip and cuts off your air.
… Or maybe it just has that effect on me. Anyway, no one song on the album has so much going on. I don't get why it was left out of the ACL set, either.
Last edited by Joy Prevention Hotline; 11-09-2013 at 12:57 AM. Reason: Typos. Sheesh.
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Ditto - VMOE is one of my favorites in the catalog at this point, but ATL goes hard and would have been perfect for the televised portion. It was great to see that on the Jimmy Kimmel Live you tube this morning.
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The "why you have to make it so hard" part sounds awesome, I had my doubts on that part, but WOW NIN killed the performance, I didnt like the backup singers but after watching those videos I can totally see their purpose
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