(Real) Lights In The Sky

[elevenism]

This conversation (at least the part by @elevenism ) is proof against Intelligent Design.

Humans are pattern-matchers. We have big brains, and we're hard-wired to figure things out. We try to make sense of data we gather, and make it fit so that we can understand things. When it comes to creating fire, or avoiding being trampled by a mammoth, or designing a silicon integrated circuit, this is a very good skill to have. It's made us very successful.

But it also means that we have a tendency to force-fit explanations, or try for explanations even when we have insufficient facts to do so. So, like, if there are lights in the sky and no current explanation seems to fit, then we say it's God or aliens or interdimensional gloryholes.

Occam's Razor says that it's much more likely to be explained by something we know currently but we're just missing some facts, or we got some facts wrong. A proper scientific position is to just say we don't know what the fuck it is and suspend judgment until we know more. It's OK not to know things yet.

EDIT: For example: Fireballs in skies were Atlas V rocket breaking up on reentry.

Well said.

my whole life, i've been interested in high strangeness and mysteries.

And now we are living in a time where these "lights in the sky" can be captured and scrutinized from multiple angles. and the ones that can be debunked are debunked. what is left are the things that are truly odd or heretofore unknown.

and i think that's pretty bad ass. i, for one, am not, however, trying to force fit an explanation (although i do have my theories, gvmt testing of holographic projection operations being the top one.)

Ultimately, though, the beauty for me is in the NOT knowing.

[Timinator]

i, for one, am not, however, trying to force fit an explanation (although i do have my theories, gvmt testing of holographic projection operations being the top one.)

Yesssss...

[elevenism]

Yesssss...

they've been talking about doing it for a LONG time.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...rkin020199.htm

This is from 1999, when the US was toying with the idea of projecting an image of Allah over Iraq.
I have a feeling that we have worked on this technology, and that some of these "mass sightings" might be tests of such technology, which could be wielded as a powerful psychological weapon.

[WorzelG]

This is from 1999, when the US was toying with the idea of projecting an image of Allah over Iraq.

This could have backfired as images of God are absolutely forbidden in Islam
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniconism_in_Islam

[elevenism]

This could have backfired as images of God are absolutely forbidden in Islam
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniconism_in_Islam

they're TECHNICALLY forbidden in Christianity and Judaism too, if you think about it.

But the idea was to make them think that it wasn't an IMAGE, rather, that it was God himself, telling the Iraqis what to do (surrender to the US of course.)

Some people think they went forward with this type of experimentation and are still testing and perfecting it today under the code name "Project Bluebeam," but evidence is spurious at best.
It WOULD explain a LOT about the UFO phenomenon,
especially coupled with the active (now declassified) US misinformation campaigns to make people who had seen to secret military planes think that they were in contact with alien intelligence.

[Hazekiah]

All I'm saying is that @Hazekiah gets a lot of shit because of post formatting and his love for less-than-critically-acclaimed movies...

also...what?
i'm confused. Is @Hazekiah a Space Alien?

Edit: Hey, Everbody, check THIS shit out. It's several of them. "mass sightings." Multiple witnesses, multiple camera angles, made the news-NOT the kind that one cat can fake with a computer program.


Here's another possible explanation-advanced weapon technology. The US government has OPENLY talked about a psyop where they would project an image of Allah over Iraq.
If these sightings, especially the really spectacular ones, are examples of that sort of thing (some believe it to be called Project Bluebeam,) imagine the fucking POWER it grants those who would use it to manipulate people.

Some people act like he is, yes.

What I meant was that Haz takes a ton of shit and has to defend (well he doesn't have to but, God love him, he does) in certain threads while threads like the this and the conspiracy thread run unchecked and without scrutiny. Just seems strange to me. To each their own though.

I'm actually a Zortanian from the planet Zort, as documented by the art books of Ed Emberley. That "snout" is actually a 3D concert bootlegging lens, the bugged-out eyes help camouflage me among the druggies in the front row (as does the green skin), and my "third leg" really helps steady the shots with my "tripod," ifyouknowumsayin'.

But it's w/e.

[elevenism]

Yesssss...

just so we're clear, this is you demonstrating me putting my foot in my mouth and proving your point, right?

BTW @Timinator . You study or studied physics, right?

Why AREN'T there interdimensional glory holes?

[Timinator]

just so we're clear, this is you demonstrating me putting my foot in my mouth and proving your point, right?

BTW @Timinator . You study or studied physics, right?

Why AREN'T there interdimensional glory holes?

Yes, I thought your thoughts seemed at odds with each other.

Yes, I studied physics.

"Why are there no interdimensional glory holes," is a bad question. That's not how you do science. We don't know if there are other dimensions, and if there are we don't know if there are (or are not) connections between them. You're supposing lots of things in your question and are putting the cart well ahead of the horse.