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    My problem with Oceania is that it sounds like a force-job, where he's self-consciously trying to make a classic Pumpkins record with not much of a clue what made the classic albums legendary. A lot of it just sounds like the same song over and over again: Inkless, Glissandra, Chimera, Panopticon, etc.

    It also has some of his most cringeworthy songs of all time on it. One Diamond One Heart being the worst offender. There's also that one song I remember that's like 10 minutes long but keeps changing course because it can't figure out what it's trying to do.

    Pale Horse is amazing though. He manages to bring the old BillCo out for one stone-cold gem, at least..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettybrokenspiral View Post
    My problem with Oceania is that it sounds like a force-job, where he's self-consciously trying to make a classic Pumpkins record with not much of a clue what made the classic albums legendary. A lot of it just sounds like the same song over and over again: Inkless, Glissandra, Chimera, Panopticon, etc.

    It also has some of his most cringeworthy songs of all time on it. One Diamond One Heart being the worst offender. There's also that one song I remember that's like 10 minutes long but keeps changing course because it can't figure out what it's trying to do.

    Pale Horse is amazing though. He manages to bring the old BillCo out for one stone-cold gem, at least..
    I think the complete opposite. I feel like it's probably his least forced thing since 2000. Thought the band had a good chemistry and he let loose a bit and let things happen. I think it was a fluke though since he immediately reverted back. I don't mind Monuments, but it's definitely lacking it areas.

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