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[Ryan]

What are they doing? Which pages in question?

[piggy]

What are they doing? Which pages in question?

http://www.ninwiki.com/User:LawannaHein
http://www.ninwiki.com/User:NovellaHelena
http://www.ninwiki.com/User:JolieJackdi
http://www.ninwiki.com/User:StefanNONK

If you mouse over the links on those pages, you'll see what I mean. I'm sure the sites they linked aren't malicious but they're still considered spam, right?

[Ryan]

Yeah they should be banned, it's spam crap on them all.

[piggy]

I wanted to block them from day one, but Tony said I should talk to him before I block anyone.

EDIT: I'm dumb. I think he was talking about legitimate users rather than obvious spammers.

[TheBang]

Block and/or delete the users. It's Black Hat SEO posts. There's no point in talking to them. It'll probably continue to plague the Wiki, unless you put in some additional anti-spam measures, either at registration, or restricting what new users can post (i.e. no external links).

[GrayscaleRain]

Since we're getting close to this leg of the current tour, I'm starting the setlist excel sheet again. n.n

I'll see if I can't get the stats by the time the sets finish in a couple of weeks. Though I'm leaving out the 'secret show' in LA because it seems to be irregular and we're... not really certain that it actually occurred just yet, are we? O.o?

[Ryan]

Well, today is the final show of the 2013 leg of Tension. Who would like to do the honors of creating the "typical setlist" section? --

http://www.ninwiki.com/Live_2013-2014

Tension 2013

[edit] Line-Up

• Alessandro Cortini: Keyboards, programming, guitar, backing vocals
• Josh Eustis: Guitar, keyboards, backing vocals, saxophone
• Robin Finck: Guitar, keyboards, backing vocals
• Lisa Fischer: Backing vocals
• Sharlotte Gibson: Backing vocals
• Pino Palladino: Bass
• Trent Reznor: Vocals, guitar, keyboards
• Ilan Rubin: Drums, cello

[edit] Stage Set-Up

The production for this leg was very different from the festival dates and was again a collaboration by Rob Sheridan, Roy Bennett and Moment Factory. When this leg was originally announced, Reznor was quoted as saying that it "picks up where Lights in the Sky left off" and that it was "the full-on Nine Inch Nails live experience realized as we never could before." It featured heavy use of "stealth screens", like those from the aforementioned tour, which could be raised and lowered throughout the set and which presented elaborate visuals. A unique lighting element was also added in the form of a number of nine-paneled geometric lighting rigs suspended over the band.
[edit] Typical setlist

to be announced

[[Shep]]

Setlist.fm does it for you
http://www.setlist.fm/stats/average-...r=Tension+2013

[Ryan]

Setlist.fm does it for you
http://www.setlist.fm/stats/average-...r=Tension+2013

True, but we go into a bit more depth at ninwiki, like with the Festival tour, i.e.:

Typical setlist

1. "Copy Of A"
2. "Sanctified" or "Disappointed"
3. "Came Back Haunted"
4. "1,000,000"
5. "March Of The Pigs"
6. "Piggy"
7. "Terrible Lie"
8. "Burn"
9. "Closer"
10. "Gave Up"
11. "Help Me I Am In Hell"
12. "Me, I'm Not" or "The Warning"
13. "Find My Way"
14. "The Way Out Is Through"
15. "Wish"
16. "Survivalism"
17. "Only"
18. "The Hand That Feeds"
19. "Head Like A Hole"
20. "Hurt"

• "The Frail"/"The Wretched" or "Reptile" was sometimes included after "Piggy".
• "What If We Could?" was sometimes played in addition to or instead of "Find My Way".
• "Something I Can Never Have" was played once in place of "Piggy" at the San Francisco, CA show.

Setlists for the three non-festival dates were longer and also more varied since minimal production was used. Other songs played during these shows include (in order of commonality): "Somewhat Damaged", "The Beginning Of The End", "I'm Afraid Of Americans", "The Good Soldier", "Pinion", "Dead Souls", "La Mer", "The Day The World Went Away" and "The Line Begins To Blur".

[GrayscaleRain]

Well, today is the final show of the 2013 leg of Tension. Who would like to do the honors of creating the "typical setlist" section? --

http://www.ninwiki.com/Live_2013-2014

Tension 2013

[edit] Line-Up

• Alessandro Cortini: Keyboards, programming, guitar, backing vocals
• Josh Eustis: Guitar, keyboards, backing vocals, saxophone
• Robin Finck: Guitar, keyboards, backing vocals
• Lisa Fischer: Backing vocals
• Sharlotte Gibson: Backing vocals
• Pino Palladino: Bass
• Trent Reznor: Vocals, guitar, keyboards
• Ilan Rubin: Drums, cello

[edit] Stage Set-Up

The production for this leg was very different from the festival dates and was again a collaboration by Rob Sheridan, Roy Bennett and Moment Factory. When this leg was originally announced, Reznor was quoted as saying that it "picks up where Lights in the Sky left off" and that it was "the full-on Nine Inch Nails live experience realized as we never could before." It featured heavy use of "stealth screens", like those from the aforementioned tour, which could be raised and lowered throughout the set and which presented elaborate visuals. A unique lighting element was also added in the form of a number of nine-paneled geometric lighting rigs suspended over the band.
[edit] Typical setlist

to be announced

When I take a break from my art project tonight, I'll go about entering the last bit I have into excel and getting you guys the raw data. You can format it how you want like last time. n.n

Edit: Though the current one looks pretty accurate. o.o

[Ryan]

When I take a break from my art project tonight, I'll go about entering the last bit I have into excel and getting you guys the raw data. You can format it how you want like last time. n.n

Edit: Though the current one looks pretty accurate. o.o

Right, so someone has popped this up now:

Typical setlist

1. "Copy Of A"
2. "1,000,000"
3. "Terrible Lie"
4. "March Of The Pigs"
5. "Piggy"
6. "All Time Low"
7. "Disappointed"
8. "Came Back Haunted"
9. "Find My Way"
10. "Sanctified"
11. "The Frail"
12. "The Wretched"
13. "The Big Come Down"
14. "Survivalism"
15. "Running"
16. "A Warm Place"
17. "Somewhat Damaged"
18. "Wish"
19. "The Hand That Feeds"
20. "Head Like A Hole"

Encore:

1. "Various Methods Of Escape"
2. "Even Deeper"
3. "While I'm Still Here"
4. "Black Noise"
5. "Hurt"

Now we need to refine it to include what songs sometimes replaced others, what songs were one-offs or rare appearances, and also include the songs done with Gary Numan, and the different layout of the set lists for Jimmy Kimmel and the Austin City Limits taping, as well as the other show (Vegas? was it?) that opened with All Time Low and went from there like Austin City Limits.

[GrayscaleRain]

Now we need to refine it to include what songs sometimes replaced others, what songs were one-offs or rare appearances, and also include the songs done with Gary Numan, and the different layout of the set lists for Jimmy Kimmel and the Austin City Limits taping, as well as the other show (Vegas? was it?) that opened with All Time Low and went from there like Austin City Limits.

Working on it! On the second Vegas show now. I'll check the tour journal and RITC for the list to the Calgary show if it's not put up soon. I doubt it'll be too strange so it won't throw the results off much even if I get some bad info.

Edit: Come to think of it, has the show even happened yet? It's only like... 8PM over there. XD

Edit II: Nope! Getting ahead of myself! Well I hope they have a good show. I wonder what Trent & Co. are going to be doing in the interim...

[Ryan]

Working on it! On the second Vegas show now. I'll check the tour journal and RITC for the list to the Calgary show if it's not put up soon. I doubt it'll be too strange so it won't throw the results off much even if I get some bad info.

Edit: Come to think of it, has the show even happened yet? It's only like... 8PM over there. XD

Edit II: Nope! Getting ahead of myself! Well I hope they have a good show. I wonder what Trent & Co. are going to be doing in the interim...

1. "Copy Of A"
2. "1,000,000"
3. "Reptile"
4. "March Of The Pigs"
5. "Piggy"
6. "All Time Low"
7. "Disappointed"
8. "Came Back Haunted"
9. "Find My Way"
10. "Various Methods Of Escape"
11. "The Frail"
12. "The Wretched"
13. "Sanctified"
14. "The Big Come Down"
15. "Survivalism"
16. "Wish"
17. "I'm Afraid Of Americans"
18. "Only"
19. "The Hand That Feeds"
20. "Head Like A Hole"
21. "All The Love In The World"
22. "Even Deeper"
23. "While I'm Still Here"
24. "Black Noise"
25. "Hurt"

[GrayscaleRain]

1. "Copy Of A"
2. "1,000,000"
3. "Reptile"
4. "March Of The Pigs"
5. "Piggy"
6. "All Time Low"
7. "Disappointed"
8. "Came Back Haunted"
9. "Find My Way"
10. "Various Methods Of Escape"
11. "The Frail"
12. "The Wretched"
13. "Sanctified"
14. "The Big Come Down"
15. "Survivalism"
16. "Wish"
17. "I'm Afraid Of Americans"
18. "Only"
19. "The Hand That Feeds"
20. "Head Like A Hole"
21. "All The Love In The World"
22. "Even Deeper"
23. "While I'm Still Here"
24. "Black Noise"
25. "Hurt"

Thanks! Just got off a three hour call with my Dad so I'll get these entered in now. What's with the 'special rehearsal' in LA? Did we get any confirmation on that or is the setlist still BS as far as we know?

[Ryan]

Thanks! Just got off a three hour call with my Dad so I'll get these entered in now. What's with the 'special rehearsal' in LA? Did we get any confirmation on that or is the setlist still BS as far as we know?

No proper confirmation anywhere. However, I'd note the songs that could have potentially been played, if it is legit, as a footnote at the end; namely:

The Eater Of Dreams / Pinion
Me, I'm Not
Gave Up
Please
The Becoming

[GrayscaleRain]

No proper confirmation anywhere. However, I'd note the songs that could have potentially been played, if it is legit, as a footnote at the end; namely:

The Eater Of Dreams / Pinion
Me, I'm Not
Gave Up
Please
The Becoming

Alright. We'll footnote that. Also, whoever did the setlist got it down to a 'T'. All the songs on it are within the top 50% (except VMoE which is the top ranked song below 50%, thus, the most likely to be played as an encore song, which it was at times.) So, if you're reading this, great job Shep! o.o!

I'll get the other songs listed and whatever interesting notes about them I can. n.n

Edit: Done!

[Ryan]

Alright. We'll footnote that. Also, whoever did the setlist got it down to a 'T'. All the songs on it are within the top 50% (except VMoE which is the top ranked song below 50%, thus, the most likely to be played as an encore song, which it was at times.) So, if you're reading this, great job Shep! o.o!

I'll get the other songs listed and whatever interesting notes about them I can. n.n

Edit: Done!

Nice work so far. I'm going to create a page for We Take Mystery (To Bed) and also include details about the shows that opened with All Time Low and how the order differed.

[Ryan]

Nice work so far. I'm going to create a page for We Take Mystery (To Bed) and also include details about the shows that opened with All Time Low and how the order differed.

Aaaand, done.

[piggy]

What do we do with this new Silverlake Festival date? Do we stick it with the Australia/NZ leg even though it's not part of it? Are there any previous instances of a random date that's not officially part of a leg?

[Ryan]

What do we do with this new Silverlake Festival date? Do we stick it with the Australia/NZ leg even though it's not part of it? Are there any previous instances of a random date that's not officially part of a leg?

Hmmm, not sure. Maybe just add it into the "Unabridged Dates" section along with Kimmel and Austin City Limits?

Or add another section called "Unabridged Dates" in the 2014 section and put it there.

edit: I did the latter:

Dates

• 2014/03/06 Sydney, Australia (Sydney Entertainment Centre)
• 2014/03/07 Sydney, Australia (Sydney Entertainment Centre)
• 2014/03/08 Newcastle, Australia (Newcastle Entertainment Centre)
• 2014/03/11 Perth, Australia (Perth Arena)
• 2014/03/13 Adelaide, Australia (AEC Arena)
• 2014/03/14 Melbourne, Australia (Rod Laver Arena)
• 2014/03/15 Melbourne, Australia (Rod Laver Arena)
• 2014/03/17 Brisbane, Australia (Brisbane Entertainment Centre)
• 2014/03/19 Auckland, New Zealand (Vector Arena)
• 2014/03/22 Christchurch, New Zealand (CBS Canterbury Arena)

[edit] Unabridged Dates

• 2014/03/01 Pattaya, Thailand (Silverlake Music Festival)

[piggy]

It seems like unabridged dates are always oddball things that aren't typical shows, which a festival appearance definitely would be, but I guess there's probably nothing else we can do. Frustrating, that.

[Ryan]

For OCD people like us particularly.

[Ryan]

Just added this in, feel free to tweak:

http://www.ninwiki.com/Live_2013-2014

Variation

The setlists for the Tension 2013 tour had more variation on a song-by-song basis than the Festival Tour and songs could be shuffled around a good bit between nights, so though certain songs are predictable, the order may not be. Examples include:

• "Satellite", "In Two", "Into The Void" and/or "I Would For You" included or replacing songs between "Find My Way" and "Survivalism".
• "In This Twilight", "The Day The World Went Away", "I'm Afraid Of Americans" or "All The Love In The World" sometimes appearing as part of the encore.
• "Burn" sometimes being included after "Wish" and once before "Survivalism".
• "Echoplex" sometimes appearing as part of the encore during the first half of the tour and sparingly earlier in the set thereafter.
• "Only" being included between "Wish" and "The Hand That Feeds".
• For shows that could not bring in the full production, the trio of Running / A Warm Place / Somewhat Damaged was typically replaced with "I'm Afraid Of Americans" followed by "Burn" or "Only".
• The two Florida shows had encores with a guest appearance from Gary Numan on "Reptile", followed by a performance of Numan's "We Take Mystery (To Bed)".

[butter_hole]

What do we do with this new Silverlake Festival date? Do we stick it with the Australia/NZ leg even though it's not part of it? Are there any previous instances of a random date that's not officially part of a leg?

Wait until the three other shows taking place that week which are no-doubt about to be announced get revealed, and then call it the 2014 Asian Tour.

[Ryan]

For The Eater Of Dreams, I put the lyrics as "Ain't goin' back" -- that's what I hear at the end, but Fangster posted this:

I'd say "Let go of me"

Ninwiki says "Ain't going back"

I hear that too, now. What's the general consensus?

[Ryan]

bump bump bumpe le bump

[GrayscaleRain]

For The Eater Of Dreams, I put the lyrics as "Ain't goin' back" -- that's what I hear at the end, but Fangster posted this:





I hear that too, now. What's the general consensus?

I'd always thought it was "Red on black."

[ethan829]

I'd always thought it was "Red on black."

I always thought it was "It comes back."

[Ryan]

Someone needs to ask Trent.

[Fangster_]

Damn, and we just had the chance to ask him anything. ANYTHING GUYS.