Yes, please! Didn't he also do that remix of The Space in Between?
Yeah, that was good too. I'm also down for Trent remixes of SONOIO. Are you listening, Trent?
ps trent if you're listening please leak hesitation marks please and thank you
I could never get into Head Down. I like things about it, but I don't like it.
Actually I get where you're coming from. I like the Slip, but I always thought it could have been arranged better. Turned into an EP I would drop 1,000,000, Discipline and Echoplex and plot the remainder as such:
1. 999,999 -> as an excellent lead (given the trailing vocal) into
2. The Four of Us Are Dying
3. Letting You
4. Lights in the Sky
5. Head Down
6. Demon Seed
7. Corona Radiata
Arranged that way, there's a narrative. Tracks 3-4-5 betray a sense of tortured scizophrenia. 6 becomes the defiant realization as a result, which makes track 7 a more jarring and haunting conclusion to the story.
(Yes, my therapist loves me, why do you ask?)
Head Down is a great track, but never really sounded that great live. Either Trent's voice was fucked, Robin's guitar had a weird sound or the general lack of guitar in the chorus was a downer. That midi-shitfuck is great though.
Letting You works great live, but the studio version never did it for me. It's one of the weakest tracks IMO.
And by the way: NIN2013 > LITS
I didn't realize people didn't like the slip. But I would assume my controversial opinion would be.... Well, not so much here among other fans. But the look I get when I say I don't think Closer is a fun happy fuck song as much as it is a desperate, dark and depressing song. People think I'm insane.
Sad, my first post in this thread is about one of the most popular NIN songs out there. and I doubt the fact The Way Out is Through is not only my favorite NIN song but my favorite song, period, would be controversial at all.
That's not a controversial opinion. It's the truth.
I've never heard anyone describe the song as a 'happy fuck song'.
I know when it came out some clubs played it as such, but I've not known anyone who actually listened to the song think its about rolling in the hay. Or a good time.
I saw a guy get down on one knee and propose to his girlfriend on the floor at the Joe Louis Arena (Detroit) during "Hurt."
So, here's something controversial, I guess. It always seemed a little to me that as Trent made his musical 80-degree turn in 2005 with With Teeth, which has continued into the "new-NIN" sound that we're now well-familiar with, that his new "poppy" quality of music, (releasing tracks like 'Only' etc) kinda came off a little...gay? Like, not that he sounded flaming or anything, but some of the sound that he goes for in his last several records seems to have a certain flair to it that resembles that of a repressed dude letting some of his gayness out. IS IT JUST ME? Some of his tunes sound a little fruity, and on this new stuff too, no joke. I don't mean it as any offense and I love his work as much as all of you, but that's something I've honestly thought and want to know what you think. And yes I know he's married with kids.
All you need to do is look at PHM and earlier stuff to see Trent's flamboyant side. He was probably too depressed/fucked out of his mind to do that stuff before he got sober. Now every song is filled with tambourines and "YEAH"s and more lip pursing than Zoolander. But the pure focused energy of the concerts has gone up, so hey, more power to him.
I leave you with this:
http://ningayfuel.ytmnd.com/
The Slip is the only album I can listen to without skipping a song. As raw as the album may sound, I think it's part of its appeal. And from a production standpoint, I think Head Down is one of the best NIN songs in the catalogue. Overall, I'm loving the garage-y vibe and I think, it's perfectly sequenced. Only thing bothering me, is Discipline fading out and cutting off.
I don't seem to get the avid collecting thing that is so prominent with NIN fans, I mean I understand why people want as much music as they can get they're hands on but sometimes the cost of being a collector is a bit scary.
Some fans I've met equate people's collection with how much of a fan a person is!
I don't know if this is controversial or if it has been said before, but I honestly want Trent to work with some other musicians besides Atticus. I like what the two of them have created together, but I think he needs to change it up some. I would love to see Grohl, Homme, and Reznor do more work together. I really like Mantra and want more stuff like that.
I think Welcome Oblivion and The Social Network score are some of the best albums Trent has ever released.
- PHM is the worst NIN album. About half is classic, but the other half is unlistenable. The new live version of Sanctified fucking rules, though.
- The Slip is fucking excellent and massively underrated. It has better flow than most NIN albums, and while it DOES feel like an album that was banged out in just a couple of weeks, It does a great job of drawing together a bunch of elements from all previous eras of NIN. It really does feel like Trent's retrospective on his personal growth alongside the development of Nine Inch Nails.
- Ghosts is also fantastic. It bothers me when people brush it off. A few songs are annoying, yes, but its one of my favorite albums to relax to, and it's relevance to the career of Trent is huge. Look at the film scores!
- Year Zero belongs alongside TDS and TF as the great NIN masterpieces.
- "I Do Not Want This" is a top 3 song on TDS
- "All the Love in the World" is one of the absolute best NIN songs ever, and With Teeth has some of Trent's all time best work. It's sad to see songs like Sunspots, Right Where It Belongs, and Beside You In Time get brought down by crap like "Getting Smaller." This album could be much improved if a few of the more lackluster songs were replaced with "Home" and "Non-Entity."
- Despite both discs being amazing, it's hard as fuck to listen to The Fragile in its entirety. I almost view Left and Right as two different albums.
- Discipline is a really good song
- I like Mariqueen's voice. I hope she is in Hesitation Marks. If she has been thus far, don't tell me. I have heard about half of what has been released.
Last edited by ZeroSum; 08-24-2013 at 01:41 PM.