Controversial Nine Inch Nails opinions

[Sarah K]

I do not like it... It just feels exhausting to listen through. Which sounds like such a stupid thing to say.

[howdidislipinto]

If we're talking about the same man who thought And All That Could Have Been or Non-Entity shouldn't have been on their respective albums and left them on the cutting room floor, I'll take his opinion with a grain of salt.

Figured I'd move this convo from Spotting to Controversial.

I get where you're coming from Kyle, but great songs are cut from albums all the time with reasons that rarely have to do with quality. On the other hand, he kept claiming/stating Tapeworm wasn't worth releasing literally while recording/releasing The Collector, Getting Smaller, and Not So Pretty Now. Come on, can't we just all admit Tapeworm must have been shit?

[Kyle]

I don't hate any of those songs. But if you're going to hate them, then you're proving my point by the fact that two of those songs were deemed worthy of release and NE wasn't.

[eversonpoe]

I get where you're coming from Kyle, but great songs are cut from albums all the time with reasons that rarely have to do with quality. On the other hand, he kept claiming/stating Tapeworm wasn't worth releasing literally while recording/releasing The Collector, Getting Smaller, and Not So Pretty Now. Come on, can't we just all admit Tapeworm must have been shit?

the collector and getting smaller are great, and i really don't understand the hate they both get. yeah, they're a little goofy lyrically, but they're not BAD songs. and musically, they're pretty awesome, and very different from most of the stuff trent has done. plus, i love the weird time signature of the collector.

[Charmingly Miserable]

I do not like it... It just feels exhausting to listen through. Which sounds like such a stupid thing to say.

I get it.

While I think most of the songs on YZ are great individually, I just can't listen to it collectively which makes YZ my least favorite album.

[GlitchyFlame]

HLAH (̶G̶o̶-̶G̶o̶ ̶M̶i̶x̶)̶ Opal is superior to the album version by a mile.

Also, Suck by Pigface is incredibly bland and boring.

[Hazekiah]

OPAL.

And you had me up until the 2nd sentence.

:P

[Emil Dorbell]

Hesitation Marks is the best thing Trent has done since the Fragile. It's the first thing since then that feels as sincere and heartfelt musically.

I agree 100%. It feels like he's true to where he is in life, whereas With Teeth or The Slip were emulating a person he used to be. Year Zero wasn't probably even meant to be sincere or heartfelt. That album feels very mechanical and unorganic to me. I also think he tore down a few walls this time around. It'll be interesting to see where he can take this.

[tony.parente]

Hesitation Marks seriously should have been scrapped and never talked about. It's really, really bad - same stupid drum machine beginning in every damned song.

[Ryan]

Hesitation Marks seriously should have been scrapped and never talked about. It's really, really bad - same stupid drum machine beginning in every damned song.

wat. seriously, wat.

[tony.parente]

wat. seriously, wat.

The only track on that album that's halfway worthwhile is Disappointed (ironic right?)

[Ryan]

The only track on that album that's halfway worthwhile is Disappointed (ironic right?)

In Two? Find My Way? While I'm Still Here? I Would For You?

[tony.parente]

In Two? Find My Way? While I'm Still Here? I Would For You?

I liked them for about the first week then realized how forgetable the album really is. Honestly when I listen to them I completely forget hesitation marks even exists in the library.

[Emil Dorbell]

The only track on that album that's halfway worthwhile is Disappointed (ironic right?)

That's my least favorite track on that album.

[WorzelG]

I agree 100%. It feels like he's true to where he is in life, whereas With Teeth or The Slip were emulating a person he used to be. Year Zero wasn't probably even meant to be sincere or heartfelt. That album feels very mechanical and unorganic to me. I also think he tore down a few walls this time around. It'll be interesting to see where he can take this.

I really don't feel With Teeth was emulating a person he used to be - it came off the back of a period where everything he was doing was failing (one hour photo, doom 3, tapeworm) then he had that court case with his manager, post rehab etc. I think the themes of With Teeth fit perfectly with that. And he didn't know whether it was going to be successful or not when writing it

[jessamineny]

I do not like it... It just feels exhausting to listen through. Which sounds like such a stupid thing to say.

Nah. I think it's cool that you have such an emotional/gut reaction to the album, even if it is "negative."

[eversonpoe]

The only track on that album that's halfway worthwhile is Disappointed (ironic right?)

this track has grown on me, for sure. i actually find the instrumental passages much more interesting than the vocal passages.

also, responding to what you said above, the issue i have with the drum programming is how many songs use claps instead of a snare sound for the most emphasized part of the virtual drumkit. other than that, i don't mind the programming so much.

In Two? Find My Way? While I'm Still Here? I Would For You?

find my way is the ONLY song on hesitation marks i actively dislike (while i'm still here is only redeemed by its connection to black noise). i don't know if it's all the "oh dear lord" stuff or just that it's really slow, but it doesn't do anything for me musically/lyrically, and most importantly, emotionally. i feel no connection to that song whatsoever.

[slave2thewage]

Chiming in re: Non-Entity. That may be my least favourite NIN track. It bored me to tears when I heard it live and I don't think I've listened to it since 2009.

[Tony Gordon]

I enjoyed the Fixed remix of Wish better than the original.

[Ryan]

Chiming in re: Non-Entity. That may be my least favourite NIN track. It bored me to tears when I heard it live and I don't think I've listened to it since 2009.

I prefer the ReAct Now version when it first debuted.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

Reading this last page, it seems like every song/album somebody doesn't like, I do.

Even Not So Pretty Now. Seriously.

[slave2thewage]

Not So Pretty Now is brilliant. THAT BEAT.

[Ryan]

I like NSPN too. Whenever I listen to it though I picture that breakfast special show with Trent's head almost completely bald:

[sheepdean]

I'm bored so unpopular opinion: Nine Inch Nails is not just Trent. Sure, he's the only (main) writer, but Robin, Ally, Atticus, hell even Rob have shaped the band so much that it's total bullshit to pretend it's just Trent in his bedroom, writing soliloquies about giant alien hands.

[Scarlet Siren]

Closer is back.

Ugh.

[tony.parente]

I'm bored so unpopular opinion: Nine Inch Nails is not just Trent. Sure, he's the only (main) writer, but Robin, Ally, Atticus, hell even Rob have shaped the band so much that it's total bullshit to pretend it's just Trent in his bedroom, writing soliloquies about giant alien hands.

I wish Trent would write more songs about alien heads :'(

[Halo Infinity]

I just successfully listened to The Fragile cover to cover for the first time.

While it contains a couple of my favorite songs, it is by far my least favorite NIN album as a whole. It just makes me feel weird, uncomfortable, and extremely shitty.

Come at me with your facepalms.

I also get this on some level myself in a way, as most of Radiohead's songs from Kid A and Amnesiac didn't really click with me. They didn't make me feel any of the things you've felt about The Fragile though, but it would seem like the equivalent of me posting that kind of opinion of mine in a Radiohead forum. I also hope that's a decent analogy. I've also figured that The Fragile would still be a challenging or overbearing listen for some people, and it's why I'd sometimes even recommend new listeners to listen to Pretty Hate Machine, The Downward Spiral, or With Teeth way before checking out The Fragile.

[ophelia_]

I'm bored so unpopular opinion: Nine Inch Nails is not just Trent. Sure, he's the only (main) writer, but Robin, Ally, Atticus, hell even Rob have shaped the band so much that it's total bullshit to pretend it's just Trent in his bedroom, writing soliloquies about giant alien hands.

For fucks sake.. Can you stop being hilarious, because I'm really starting to feel like a stalker with amount of post liking I do when it comes to you.

[BenAkenobi]

I wish Trent would write more songs about alien heads :'(

do you mean head like a hole?

[GlitchyFlame]

HLAH (Go-Go Mix) is superior to the album version by a mile.

OPAL.

Sorry about that, I just finished listening to Demos and Remixes and had that mix on my mind. We all have brainfarts sometimes.