The Fragile - the ULTIMATE re-issue

[witte]

Alan Moulder's audio interview done a couple of years ago: my favorite

A lot of TF talking.

Trent about recording TF: 'that was some of the best moments I had in my life creatively...'
Alan: 'that was my "dark side of the moon"'

The WITT snare drum story is awesome too.

[hobochic]

Alan Moulder's audio interview done a couple of years ago: my favorite

A lot of TF talking.

Trent about recording TF: 'that was some of the best moments I had in my life creatively...'
Alan: 'that was my "dark side of the moon"'

The WITT snare drum story is awesome too.

Boner killer once they stop talking about The Fragile and start with The Killers

[screwdriver]

Boner killer once they stop talking about The Fragile and start with The Killers

the killers are pretty great, dude... man, if Alan Moulder loves 'em both, you'd think we all could too

[wizfan]

I was just thinking... remember that awesome TV ad with Trent singing TWIOT a cappella at the end? If Trent decides to release the multitracks for the entire Fragile album like he did with Year Zero, I'd totally make a version of TWIOT like the ad.

[witte]

the killers are pretty great, dude... Man, if alan moulder loves 'em both, you'd think we all could do

edit: Disaggree

[butter_hole]

!!! Fail !!!

shut up you cunt and let other people have opinions

[Leviathant]

nine_inch_nerd, butter_hole - consider this a pre-warning warning. You've both veered off into bad territory with those last two posts.

Cut it out.

Thanks.

[Strohbie]

Around 120 songs were eventually recorded for The Fragile

Just spend a moment thinking about how it would feel if there were 90 some unreleased tracks that came with the deluxe edition.

[Ryan]

Just spend a moment thinking about how it would feel if there were 90 some unreleased tracks that came with the deluxe edition.

[hobochic]

The mark of true expertise is knowing what to edit out - paraphrasing Frank Gehry

I guess it'd be cool with a couple of completely unheard songs. If they were anything like some of the vinyl/B-sides tracks (The New Flesh/10 Miles High)<-- two of my fav TF-era tracks. I doubt the material would live up to expectations/the stuff that was released and I wasn't that taken by the Niggy Startdust-material either.

[piggy]

I'm gonna guess that Alan was maybe using the word 'songs' generously and that a good portion of those were probably more like short interstitial pieces or just skeletal ideas. I mean, if we think about TR's lower level of output during those days and the fact that he was experiencing some major writer's block, I think it would have been very hard to crank out that many fully developed songs.

[Greentypewriters]

I'm gonna guess that Alan was maybe using the word 'songs' generously and that a good portion of those were probably more like short interstitial pieces or just skeletal ideas. I mean, if we think about TR's lower level of output during those days and the fact that he was experiencing some major writer's block, I think it would have been very hard to crank out that many fully developed songs.

Aaron North has been quoted saying that some of The Fragile leftovers are among his favorite NIN pieces.

edit: So yes, while a lot of the remnants were probably parts (reportedly put towards Niggy Tardust) there was still gold to be found.

[botley]

Aaron North has been quoted saying that some of The Fragile leftovers are among his favorite NIN pieces.

I believe his very favourite thing was actually "fucking with NIN fans' heads".

Seriously though, Mike Garson once said that he wanted to revisit his unreleased contributions from those sessions; TR should really drop a dime and get him back in the studio.

[Incendiary Lover]

That was a really good interview I hadn't heard, thank you for posting nine_inch_nerd.

I was just thinking... remember that awesome TV ad with Trent singing TWIOT a cappella at the end? If Trent decides to release the multitracks for the entire Fragile album like he did with Year Zero, I'd totally make a version of TWIOT like the ad.

I had to go back and watch those commercials, it had been quite awhile and damn they're awesome. There was also a short video where TRez was in a sound booth or something, whispering lyrics for a track that ended up on Things Falling Apart I believe. Multi tracks would be killer, even if they weren't available for every track on the album.

... It was only put on the cassette version to fill up the time remaining on one side of the tape. It's, technically, a remix anyway.

This is the first I have heard that Appendage was remix. More info? I looked on NIN wiki and it mentions that Appendage MAY be Please part 2 which neither confirms that it was filler or indicates that it was a remix.

[seasonsinthesky]

^ err, you seem to have missed the part of the article on "Appendage" that shows attribution to Charlie Clouser. as in, the majority of its construction is attributed in the liner notes to Clouser. as in, it's a remix.

also, the song TR was whispering in the video is "The Great Collapse" (though he was apparently manipulated into a woman?!).

[hobochic]

Kinda random but I've always thought of "Deep" as a leftover track from The Fragile sessions. It sounds like a sister track to "No, You Don't", "Where is Everybody" and "Please" in sound and production.

[DVYDRNS]

back then everybody made fun of deep. now i'd kill for that kind of production from the NIN camp again.

[henryeatscereal]

The only silly thing about "deep" is the video...


Boo Berry!!!

[Fred]

Sure, "Deep" is a good song. I love the leaked 2005 rehearsal version of it. Mind you, it doesn't really live up to anything on "The Fragile", but that doesn't make it bad by any means. I'm sure it gets most of its bad rep because of Enda McCallion's shitfest of a video.

[frankie teardrop]

and the especially asinine lyrics.

[Fred]

Well, a lot of NIN songs have cringeworthy lyrics. "Deep" is hardly the worst offender there.

[simonn]

Thanks for posting the Moulder interview, interesting stuff.

Yes, Deep, love that song, badass bass sound on that mutha!

[henryeatscereal]

I like Trent in green slime!

[frankie teardrop]

Well, a lot of NIN songs have cringeworthy lyrics. "Deep" is hardly the worst offender there.

with the exception of some stuff from pretty hate machine and 'not so pretty now,' i'd definitely rank this one among the worst.

i present to you the following lines for consideration:

"there's a big black hole, gonna eat me up someday"
"some place, lost in space"
"one track, get you on your back"

it's a shame too, since the music is pretty great, all things considered. but i just can't look past literary atrocities like that. tell me that's not just plain silly.

[thevoid99]

with the exception of some stuff from pretty hate machine and 'not so pretty now,' i'd definitely rank this one among the worst.

i present to you the following lines for consideration:

"there's a big black hole, gonna eat me up someday"
"some place, lost in space"
"one track, get you on your back"

it's a shame too, since the music is pretty great, all things considered. but i just can't look past literary atrocities like that. tell me that's not just plain silly.

That's why it's my least favorite song. The lyrics are just atrocious and I expected better from Trent.

[DVYDRNS]

oh and i suppose any number of songs from the last 10 years are superior? capital g anyone?

[butter_hole]

no, you don't's lyrics are pretty awful, too.

he never really betters the opening 2 songs on the album, so no complaints there. dog lords;

[sa_nick]

oh and i suppose any number of songs from the last 10 years are superior? capital g anyone?

I always assumed Capital G's lameness was part of it's whole light parody/mocking kinda thing it had going on.

[Fred]

with the exception of some stuff from pretty hate machine and 'not so pretty now,' i'd definitely rank this one among the worst.

i present to you the following lines for consideration:

"there's a big black hole, gonna eat me up someday"
"some place, lost in space"
"one track, get you on your back"

it's a shame too, since the music is pretty great, all things considered. but i just can't look past literary atrocities like that. tell me that's not just plain silly.

I guess most people agree that PHM features some pretty dire lines, but consider this mixed selection:

"Covered in hope and Vaseline / Still cannot fix this broken machine"
"Watching fate as it flows down the path we have chose" (of course, the same grammar fuck-up re-appears in "The Great Below")
"I got my arms that flip flop flip flop flip"

Make no mistake, I love Nine Inch Nails regardless. But I'm not going to pretend Trent is as much a genius with lyrics as he is with music. Cause a lot of his lyrics are clichéed and awful. The lyrics of "Deep" are exactly what you'd expect.

[BenAkenobi]

Yeah, isn't "cheesiness" one of nin success factors?