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    Fuck......another one... at a god damn Mother's Day parade.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...94B0D720130512

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    Looks like Chicago Tribune has some sort of half paywall that prevents you from following that link directly. You can get around it by linking in from google but I'll save you all the time:
    Thank you!!

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    Shooting at a mother's day parade in New Orleans... 19 Injured.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/12/us/lou...rebar_facebook

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    Sounds like more gang bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Sounds like more gang bullshit.
    It's okay when its all part of the plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satyr View Post
    It's okay when its all part of the plan.
    genocide? yeah that seems to be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    genocide? yeah that seems to be the case.
    Its unfortunate but completely true. Zero fucks are given. Wish it wasn't that way...but it is.

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    I really want to respond to the last 4 days of posts (I like your stuff @allegro ) but with work being crazy and the recent abusive govt news... gun control has gotta wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    I believe the media hype spins a lot of the 2nd Amendment crap and helps spread the fear, as does Facebook. The biggest "don't take my guns, Obama!" shit I've seen was on Facebook.
    Hell yes, allegro, and i got so fucking sick of it that i can no longer stand facebook, especially since i live in Texas where i am apparently the ONLY DEMOCRAT.
    Yes, im a card carrying pinko liberal bleeding-heart pseudo-socialist democrat. This makes me the oddball, even among long-haired dope smoking guitar playing hippies i grew up with. it is UTTERLY...FUCKING...BAFFLING.
    Facebook would have us believe that Obama is an African Muslim dictator on par with Hitler. Another thing that annoys me about this is that many people, especially older people, think that anything they read on facebook is true.
    I'm still not quite sure where i stand on this issues, but when every Republican votes along party lines against fucking background checks, it's pretty disheartening. These are the same assholes that voted AGAINST equal pay for women. I PERSONALLY have NEVER fired a gun, and i never plan to...i'm just tired of the debate and i don't know what the answer is. The fear mongering disgusts me though.
    Last edited by elevenism; 05-20-2013 at 10:26 AM. Reason: Twisted and nodded out while posting

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    but when every Republican votes along party lines against fucking background checks, it's pretty disheartening. These are the same assholes that voted AGAINST equal pay for women.
    Really, you are still going to vomit that left-wing rhetoric even after being corrected?

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    This is awesome. Never thought I would see a "How to Build Your Own AK-47" on Mother Jones.

    MotherJones finally figures out how easy it is to LEGALLY build a gun while bypassing all background checks, registrations, etc... even in California.
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...building-party

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    Homeland Security reportedly warns 3D-printed guns are "impossible" to contain.

    The solution: universal searches. “The only security procedure to catch [the 3D firearms] is a pat down. Is America ready for pat-downs at every event?”

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    These are showing up around Seattle and are pissing off all the right people (anyone wanting to control marriage or guns):




    http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/22/ga...linked-in-seat

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    That's how most of my high school friends turned out. 95% of my political arguments over the last decade have been against right-wingers.

    And 3D printed guns are the best thing for the gun problem topic. It will force people to eventually give up on the gun control angle and focus on more productive approaches. Stopping the drug war, focusing on poverty and education, mental health, etc
    Corrected?
    A. an ETS post isn't going to "correct" my passionate beliefs...that is downright laughable and
    B.ummmm...see above. i thought we saw eye to eye on quite a few things

    oh, you mean the background checks being "logistically impossible?" iraq and afghanistan were "logistically possible," i'd imagine making a fucking list should be within our grasp.

    i do like your idea on the 3d printing thing though...hadn't thought of it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Corrected?
    A. an ETS post isn't going to "correct" my passionate beliefs...that is downright laughable and
    At least you are honest!

    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    B.ummmm...see above. i thought we saw eye to eye on quite a few things

    oh, you mean the background checks being "logistically impossible?" iraq and afghanistan were "logistically possible," i'd imagine making a fucking list should be within our grasp.

    i do like your idea on the 3d printing thing though...hadn't thought of it that way.
    Well, when that very list (national registry) that makes background checks logistically possible is OUTLAWED in the very legislation that you are all gung ho about... hrmm yea that isn't in your grasp. Read the goddamned legislation next time instead of just news headlines and talking head soundbites of the people who you emotionally connect with.
    Don't believe me? Won't read the bill yourself? Need someone on the left to say it before you believe it? Listen to the first 35 seconds:
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Yeah, CURRENTLY.
    But a minute or two in, Moore (who is, by the way, a lifelong member of the NRA) says "We register our cars...why not guns?"
    Laws can be changed.
    I have said this before...
    I am the LAST person you want with a gun.
    State registered Bipolar I with psychotic episodes, and YES, i have been charged with a violent felony.
    I'm fucking nuts! I'm the prime example of why we need to be careful of WHO has guns.

    I did like what you said about the 3d printer jobs though. At first i wanted to strangle the kid. But in the VERY near future, these 3d printer weapons could get WAY more sophisticated. This, as you said, MAY force the gvmt to focus on the CAUSES of gun crime...to treat the mentally ill, to lend a helping hand to the poor, and hand out harsher sentences to violent gun-toting felons who commit gun crimes. (in texas, it's illegal for them to carry guns. and i'm not one of them...i beat the case
    ) Our government here in texas is FUCKED UP. Rick Perry has been in office for like 20 fucking years (literally.) We have a republican super-majority in congress...so Perry does whatever the fuck he wants...on the cool. In '11, that meant slashing funding for indigent mental health care and drastically cutting education funding, to show off for his joke of a presidential campaign. And the hell of it all is, we had/have the fucking money!

    Digital Chaos, i think this whole "gun debate" bullshit is a smokescreen to hide what's REALLY going on anyway. There's NEVER going to be any real gun control in the us, EVER. i think it's just something they bring out when they want us to "pay no attention to what's behind the curtain. Here. Argue about guns." Nevermind that the 4th and 6th amendments have been pretty much dead for quite some time.

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    New school shooting. This one is on the campus of Santa Monica College in California.

    This is breaking news so not a lot of details just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepvoid View Post
    4/5 dead, reports are varying. See, this is why the US should just hurry the fuck up and ban guns.

    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    These are showing up around Seattle and are pissing off all the right people (anyone wanting to control marriage or guns):http://reason.com/blog/2013/05/22/ga...linked-in-seat
    These are retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DF118 View Post
    the US should just hurry the fuck up and ban guns.
    the door-to-door confiscation of 300 million guns already owned by U.S. citizens will be fascinating to watch. maybe they can hire Star Wars storm troopers to do it, so it will be really entertaining. And maybe some Blade Runner rogue replicants.

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    yeah, I don't think it's realistic to even push for a nationwide gun ban, and I'm not sure I'd agree that it's a real solution.

    That "we legalized gay marriage, now let's buy guns!" ad is maybe the single stupidest thing that I've seen in this thread. "We aren't going to take shit from any homophobes, because we have guns and we'll shoot them!" Seriously, who the fuck made these posters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    the door-to-door confiscation of 300 million guns already owned by U.S. citizens will be fascinating to watch. maybe they can hire Star Wars storm troopers to do it, so it will be really entertaining. And maybe some Blade Runner rogue replicants.
    See, that's what I'm talking about. An issue with using replicants though- a nationwide collection will probably take some time, replants typically only live four years, so they might not necessarily be best suited. That's fine though.

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    Here's something positive for a change ... at least for this guy.

    Texas jury acquit man who shot dead Craiglist escort (aka prostitute) who refused to have sex with him


    How is this not amazing? This guy enters into an illegal transaction by hiring a hooker on Craiglist. Then shes refuses to have sex with him, claiming it was not part of the deal. She decides to make a run for it, gets in a car with her "manager" and this model citizen starts shooting at the car, hitting her in the neck. I believe she was paralyzed for 6-7 months and then passed away.

    Here's penal code http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/2/9/D/9.42




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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    the door-to-door confiscation of 300 million guns already owned by U.S. citizens will be fascinating to watch. maybe they can hire Star Wars storm troopers to do it, so it will be really entertaining. And maybe some Blade Runner rogue replicants.
    Hell, we dont have the resources to deal with confiscation from people who are already not allowed to have guns.

    California has a list of 20,000 people who own 40,0000 guns but shouldn't (felons, mentally ill, etc). They can only get to about 10% of those people due to a lack of resources. Every year, 3,000 names get added to the list and they can only touch about 2,000.

    California unable to disarm 19,700 felons and mentally ill people
    http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan...-guns-20130130




    Not to mention how dangerous the job is of confiscating guns from people who don't want to give them up:

    Calif. Agents Detail Risks Of Seizing Guns From Felons, Mentally Ill
    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...-mentally-ill/
    I wonder how often they hear the "oops, I'm not sure where that gun is anymore" line.


    It's not going to happen @DF118
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    California is mad that their "smart" gun control laws have so many loopholes that entire businesses are created on them
    Those "high-capacity" magazine bans are being easily circumvented with legal repair kits:
    http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfa...nia_is_sui.php

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    Toy Gun Exchange: Elementary School Buys Back Toy Weapons From Students

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3405158.html

    what in the fucking christ?
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    After gun bill’s defeat, it’s Democrats, not Republicans, paying the political price

    http://hotair.com/archives/2013/06/1...s-republicans/

    so good

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    How come nobody seems interested in gun control anymore? Not enough children dying in the news or what? Where is that genuine interest in fixing the issue?

    Here is an interesting animation for those people who still think that the pro-gun control crowd is advancing.
    The right-to carry over the years:

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    Right-to-carry and gun control demands are only related because they're both firearms issues. And that's it. One might not be opposed to a right-to-carry and still be for a shitload of gun control. So in this discussion, that graph is taking up a whole lot of bandwidth to make no point whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elke View Post
    Right-to-carry and gun control demands are only related because they're both firearms issues. And that's it. One might not be opposed to a right-to-carry and still be for a shitload of gun control. So in this discussion, that graph is taking up a whole lot of bandwidth to make no point whatsoever.
    Gun rights are winning in just about all areas. This was just one example.

    Assault Weapon Ban expired and is getting no traction, even during a time of solid Dem control.

    Arizona, location of the Giffords shooting, allowed carry without a permit in 2010. Not a damn thing has changed in that state, despite her campaign. She has tied into the Newton shooting trying to campaign on that topic too. What's changed in schools? Other than Ohio allowing concealed carrying in some of it's schools...

    What happened to that national conversation? Sure seems like that topic was given up on by the pro-gun-control crowd.

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