Twiggys abuse/rape allegations

[Airbornefeline]

Y'all seem to always forget that false rape accusations are a crime (with a rate that sits well below 10% no matter what statistic you pull, also remember the majority of people who are raped do not even *go* to the police so think about just how small that number is) that when provable is pursued and leads to conviction in some cases.

What makes you think anyone forgot that? Rape is also a crime that when provable is pursued and leads to conviction in some cases. I don't really get your point there.

Y'all are doing the equivalent of visiting a town that has burned to ashes and acting like now is the time to talk about the two people that drowned in the next town over. "Oh hey I know this particular case seems highly probable given the enormous amount of bad reports that exist about this fuckass, specifically this one that is especially verifiable and damning." but rape accusations RUIN LIVES so I'm just gonna be REAL FOCUSED ON THAT because I'm HELPING

lmao yeah that's equivalent to this? jesus christ. We're having a discussion on a nine inch nails forum, calm down.

[playwithfire]

What makes you think anyone forgot that?

Y'all seem to

I don't really get your point there.

jesus christ. We're having a discussion on a nine inch nails forum, calm down.

Metaphors, the word "fuckass," and sarcasm. Known as un-calm behavior across internet forums for millennia.

Perhaps I think that the priorities y'all seem to have in this conversation indicate to me that surely you must think false accusations loom in much greater equivalence, or perhaps with less justice served comparably, to getting raped than statistics and life seem to indicate.

I'm just trying to s e eb o t h s i d es

[Airbornefeline]

Metaphors, the word "fuckass," and sarcasm. Known as un-calm behavior across internet forums for millennia.

"calm down" was in response to the ridiculously dumb and over-the-top analogy you threw out there.

Perhaps I think that the priorities y'all seem to have in this conversation indicate to me that surely you must think false accusations loom in much greater equivalence, or perhaps with less justice served comparably, to getting raped than statistics and life seem to indicate.

I've flat out said blatantly so many times that they're not prevalent, they just shouldn't be ignored and dismissed. You must not be reading what I'm actually writing before replying so I'm just not even going to attempt to talk to you anymore.

[playwithfire]

I've flat out said blatantly so many times that they're not prevalent, they just shouldn't be ignored. You must not be reading what I'm actually writing before replying so I'm just not even going to attempt to talk to you anymore.

And here I was thinking my collective nouns throughout this conversation indicated that I felt like multiple people were guilty of this. Maybe even to varying degrees.

I thought we were just having a discussion on a nine inch nails forum :~(

I'm just not even going to attempt to talk to you anymore.

:~)

[Dryalex12]

I'm just trying to s e eb o t h s i d es

This is what I was ATTEMPTING to do, but I really fucked up.........badly.

I ended up sounding like I didn't believe her (which wasn't true) all because I didn't rule out the possibility of it being false. I also made myself look like I didn't give two shits about her claims which is far from the truth.

I guess that's the price of having Aspergers, the things I wrote down SOUNDED harmless and reasonable in my head.......it obviously didn't and it also proves I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about when it comes to rape.

I fucked up badly, plain and simple and I take all the blame for it, I don't have an excuse for it.

[sweeterthan]

What makes you think anyone forgot that? Rape is also a crime that when provable is pursued and leads to conviction in some cases. I don't really get your point there.


lmao yeah that's equivalent to this? jesus christ. We're having a discussion on a nine inch nails forum, calm down.

So because this is being discussed on a nine inch nails forum, the discussion is less impactful? I find this discussion to important and necessary because of the patriarchal bullshit that still holds this topic back is creeping into this and the wienstien thread. If its not that important to you to discuss it on our forum, then move on or take a fucking seat and learn something.

[Airbornefeline]

So because this is being discussed on a nine inch nails forum, the discussion is less impactful? I find this discussion to important and necessary because of the patriarchal bullshit that still holds this topic back is creeping into this and the wienstien thread. If its not that important to you to discuss it on our forum, then move on or take a fucking seat and learn something.

Yes, because this is just a bunch of nobodies talking on a nine inch nails forum, the discussion is less impactful than the absurd situation that other guy equated this to.

The fact that I've written so many posts engaging with everyone who's responded to me makes it plainly obvious I think it's worth discussing.

You guys seem to have a real problem with people who don't tow the line. I'm not gonna start whipping myself on the back and telling you guys how right you are just because you're upset that I don't agree with you.

This conversation quickly moved away from the specific case that started all this. I did not initiate that, I simply added my opinion. In terms of how I feel in this specific case, I'd agree he most probably did it but that doesn't mean every accuser should automatically believed in every instance which is the claim that started this whole false-allegation discussion.