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    Now if the record sounded like that YT clip with a rawer production that would certainly be something...but I'm sure Rivers will find a way to get it too much of clean, polished and plastic feel like every record post 1996 has had.

    I know, I know...I'm one of those hipsters that lives, dies and swears by Pinkerton but there's a reason why that album is so beloved. You listen to bands like Cloud Nothings and you really get a sense of the neurotic white boy tendencies floating around in Rivers and co's music at that time. It still holds up very well and I honestly think that Matt Sharp and Rivers were the main reasons those first two records are so great still. When Matt left the band, in my opinion, the material and sound of the band went downhill. I know Rivers is the main creative force but distancing himself from Pinkerton (then donned a failure) and losing Matt were some of the first missteps for Weezer. They obviously recovered commercially but creatively, they've been floating around in the abyss for over ten years.

    Because of my love for the first self titled and Pinkerton, I'm always willing to hear what the band comes out with...but it usually just ends up a disappointment but I still enjoy giving them a try each year a new record comes.

    Speaking of Matt Sharp though, apparently the Rentals have new material they're writing so that should be exciting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefragile_jake View Post
    Now if the record sounded like that YT clip with a rawer production that would certainly be something...but I'm sure Rivers will find a way to get it too much of clean, polished and plastic feel like every record post 1996 has had.

    I know, I know...I'm one of those hipsters that lives, dies and swears by Pinkerton but there's a reason why that album is so beloved. You listen to bands like Cloud Nothings and you really get a sense of the neurotic white boy tendencies floating around in Rivers and co's music at that time. It still holds up very well and I honestly think that Matt Sharp and Rivers were the main reasons those first two records are so great still. When Matt left the band, in my opinion, the material and sound of the band went downhill. I know Rivers is the main creative force but distancing himself from Pinkerton (then donned a failure) and losing Matt were some of the first missteps for Weezer. They obviously recovered commercially but creatively, they've been floating around in the abyss for over ten years.

    Because of my love for the first self titled and Pinkerton, I'm always willing to hear what the band comes out with...but it usually just ends up a disappointment but I still enjoy giving them a try each year a new record comes.

    Speaking of Matt Sharp though, apparently the Rentals have new material they're writing so that should be exciting.

    Yeah I don't know what the fuck happened to this band after the 90s ended. I think youre right in that Matt probably had a lot more to do with the awesomeness of those first two records than given credit for. The new Rentals track is damn good. To me it sounds like Return of The Rentals and Seven More Minutes had steamy nerd sex and made a moog baby. Really looking forward to that album coming out.

    I'm an admitted Ocasek fanboy, and if anybody can talk the Weez into making a great record it's him, but even The Green album was pretty mediocre in retrospect and pretty much everything else they've released since 2001 save for a handful of tunes. I don't have high expectations, but will reserve judgment til I hear the damn thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perceptionnexus View Post
    Yeah I don't know what the fuck happened to this band after the 90s ended. I think youre right in that Matt probably had a lot more to do with the awesomeness of those first two records than given credit for. The new Rentals track is damn good. To me it sounds like Return of The Rentals and Seven More Minutes had steamy nerd sex and made a moog baby. Really looking forward to that album coming out.

    I'm an admitted Ocasek fanboy, and if anybody can talk the Weez into making a great record it's him, but even The Green album was pretty mediocre in retrospect and pretty much everything else they've released since 2001 save for a handful of tunes. I don't have high expectations, but will reserve judgment til I hear the damn thing.
    Exactly, they're promoting this like some kind of return to form and it is with Ocasek back in the picture but he did help write The Green Album which I can't even finish listening to anymore. Of course, 2001 was a different time so who knows.

    Glad we're in agreement on that Rentals track!

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