2013.11.16 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint

[erikiksaz]

Yeah - Im sure Trent just hired some hack bass player he found off the street and doesnt really pay attention to how his playing sounds.
Seriously? "leagues better"?
I am not really into "who is a more skilled musician" - as some pretty hack musicians have made some amazing music over the years - but this guy is WORLDS more experienced as a musician than the guys you mentioned, never mind since before they were even born.

I definitely know I'm going against the grain here, but I don't think more experience necessarily translates into better music under every single genre or subgenre of music. I've looked up Pino and his credentials are definitely there, but I personally don't like his style as it pertains to how I like NIN live.

When I first saw Josh play the new Sanctified at Lollapallooza, the bass-line was amazing. Saw the same song with Pino at the Staples Center, and had I not heard it the first time at Lolla, I wouldn't have been able to hum the damn bass line back to you if I wanted. I thought that perhaps I was experiencing some interference with the bass from where I was seated. Come Vegas, same thing, same muddled bass notes from Pino. I think again, had I not heard Josh's version, I still would not have been able to appreciate the bass line.

Same thing with Survivalism. I don't know what the hell Pino does with it, but the distinct notes are not as pronounced, it just disappears into the background. Same with Terrible Lie at the Staples center.

All in all, great performance from the rest of the band (Ilan is growing on me, although I like Josh Freeze's renditions a bit more).

[Powhatan]

I definitely know I'm going against the grain here, but I don't think more experience necessarily translates into better music under every single genre or subgenre of music. I've looked up Pino and his credentials are definitely there, but I personally don't like his style as it pertains to how I like NIN live.

When I first saw Josh play the new Sanctified at Lollapallooza, the bass-line was amazing. Saw the same song with Pino at the Staples Center, and had I not heard it the first time at Lolla, I wouldn't have been able to hum the damn bass line back to you if I wanted. I thought that perhaps I was experiencing some interference with the bass from where I was seated. Come Vegas, same thing, same muddled bass notes from Pino. I think again, had I not heard Josh's version, I still would not have been able to appreciate the bass line.

Same thing with Survivalism. I don't know what the hell Pino does with it, but the distinct notes are not as pronounced, it just disappears into the background. Same with Terrible Lie at the Staples center.

All in all, great performance from the rest of the band (Ilan is growing on me, although I like Josh Freeze's renditions a bit more).

Fair enough if you dont like his style - it just sounded like you were saying he was a hack bass player.