As much as it's great that there's a dedicated NIN collector community, it kinda pisses me off when I want to buy an old NIN record and the prices are through the roof because the community has put such a high value on things (and some people have 20, 30 of the same damn album).
I definitely don't like that if I want a copy of With Teeth or Year Zero on vinyl it's going to typically run me around 100 dollars, give or take, and that's usually used, not sealed. It actually was a big reason why I stayed away from getting NIN on vinyl for so long, but I've basically accepted I'll just take what I can get and anything that's too high for my budget, I'll just live without.
Also the cost of the HM promos are ridiculous right now. I'm guessing they'll go down once it's no longer the new album and people realize how many copies there actually are, but at the moment I've looked on ebay and seen them with asking prices in the hundreds. It's beyond crazy.
I never really liked even the mere idea of retiring any songs. I'd understand wanting to hear some songs being replaced by others, or hearing some songs more than others, but not to the point where any of the songs would be never ever played live ever again. I wouldn't mind hearing more of Down In It and Closer. It would also be nice to hear more performances of Kinda I Want To, That's What I Get, The Only Time, and Ringfinger.
I know part of this is humorous, but man, I honestly would trade those for YZ. I really want to have the main albums before anything else, but really I've just barely started collecting NIN on vinyl (and as for CDs, I still need 2/3s of the WITT single and the Only single, and then I still don't have Collected and a few other promos/alternates I want). I'm hoping to ideally end up with one of every main album alongside Broken, and then worry about singles from there. I actually am really glad that the NIN community is so trade-friendly, though, and I'll probably end up getting involved in that once I've got enough things that I actually could bring something to the table. I've wanted to get into collecting NIN for a long time, and I guess I could be considered a collector, but compared to so many of the people around here and on other sites I feel so basic; whenever I take a look at the Show Us Your Collection! thread here, or in the past when I saw the collecting thread on the nin.com forums, I've always been blown away with the extent that some people go to, it's amazing. I used to feel really proud of what I had, and people I know in real life are always blown away by how much I have, but having seen some of the larger collections (like that guy whose entire room/hallway of his house was lined with posters, promos, etc., or the guy with Trent's old hard drive, etc.) I can't help but feel like I'm still just beginning.
Thanks for the offer though!
Edit: Just realized I basically derailed the thread, sorry in advance, I really need to take my ass to the collecting/trading subforum sometime
The Great Dedtroyer is one of the worst NIN songs ever. There - I got it off my chest. Thanks.
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Although the lyrics might be cringeworthy, I think it's probably by design, too. I mean, there's kind of a similarity between that sort of teen power fantasy ("pre-teen" sounds young to me, but maybe them too) and a sort of willfully blind ideology - it could even be propaganda specifically targeting young people or something . . . That's just one interpretation of the lyrics. I might be way off.
It's not even the lyrics so much - I just feel like the ending half is a poor attempt to recreate the whole "Happiness in Slavery" mid section - but much less successful in doing so - it just bores the life out of me. To each their own though.
I've grown so used to the current TGD live breakdown that the album version seems too short to me nowadays.
@Kris just reminded me of Tori Amos. I think that if Courtney didn't put her skanky self between the two, I think that Trent and Tori could've had a real thing going on.
I was just overposting on Facebook (as you do, when you're procrastinating), and theruiner said something the likes of 'poor Trent, all we do is bitch about his music', which is true (take 49 of the 50 pages of this thread, for instance). So:
I love Nine Inch Nails. Irony free. I love the music, I love the production, I love the Treznor's voice*, I love the lyrics**. I even love most of the artwork. I love the dedication and care that goes into Nine Inch Nails, and I love the impact it has had on my life. I love that it introduced me to you fine, bitchy people. I love that it helped me overcome myself.
* No seriously, I love his voice. And I cannot get over how much I adore Hesitation Marks because he finally chose to sing, and invest in the singing.
** Yes. I do. Even the really bad ones. Because they're still better than most other lyrics by most other artists. Because at least they mean something.
[No, I am not drunk. Just maybe a little mushy and girly today.]
I agree with this, I don't get people who think the singing is poor on this album, listening to this album makes me sad he didn't invest more in the singing on earlier albums when he could have pulled it off live more as he was younger.
It also reminded me of this interview that I only recently saw, where he talks about collaborating with Tori Amos on Past the Mission (at 4.54) and how he normally tries to hide his voice in distortion - whyy??
I cannot stand Piggy. Absolutely hate it, boring as hell, worst song on TDS by far. Hated it live too.
Surprised to see so many of you hate BMWAG, I think it's one of the highlights on the album.
I always find I don't like piggy on the album that much, but live it shines - when he is singing 'nothing can stop me now' repeatedly on the AATCHB DVD with the guitar going on in the background, it's like man on the verge of a nervous breakdown. It's just really hauntingly affective
Nothing can stop me now 'cause I just don't give a fuck.
Love Piggy.
I like Piggy well enough, but between the five shows I've seen and the various boots I've listened to I feel like I've heard it about a billion times. I'm tired of it.
Piggy was my anthem all during high school.
I think I love "Piggy" because it's basically like a NIN take on jazz. I'm not into jazz, but I just find that combination of styles so interesting.
You're a piggy.