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    Quote Originally Posted by r_z View Post
    Yo, man, I never said anything about Rimbaud, so please apply the same cynicism to TR's lyrics, while you're at it. Because those lyrics are not worse than his.
    Trent has been routinely pulled up on his lyrics by both critics and fans alike whereas the critics fall over themselves to fellate James Murphy for everything he's done.
    http://www.metacritic.com/music/amer...critic-reviews

    i don't know why you can't bear people to have one corner of the internet to redress the hype

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorzelG View Post
    i don't know why you can't bear people to have one corner of the internet to redress the hype
    It's not about that. This is a thread for controversial opinions and discussing those, no? I was just responding to someone who quoted me.

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    I just can't get into Pvris. I've tried to listen to them several times and they just don't do anything for me. Some of my friends rave about them and they are always on tour with a band i like...but they're just...meh to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boots View Post
    i hate this song and this band so much. people like them, cite how fun they are, but to me, they are lifeless and emotionless, and their lyrics are TERRIBLE. their cover of "shadowplay" by joy division (which was used at the end of the film Control) almost ruined the original version of the song for me, that's how much i disliked it.

    all that said, when brandon flowers had a mustache, i found him really attractive.

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    I'm a casual fan of The Killers, actually surprised there isn't a thread on them here (or maybe there is and I'm lazy). Never took them too seriously but do like there '80s infused pop-rock with a dab of electronica. Saw them at Lolla in 2009 and they put on a great show. "Human" is awesome live, especially as an opener.

    Not gay, but Brandon Flowers is a good looking dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haysey View Post
    I just can't get into Pvris. I've tried to listen to them several times and they just don't do anything for me. Some of my friends rave about them and they are always on tour with a band i like...but they're just...meh to me.
    They're good but the latest album isn't doing shit for me.

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    I used to love Bloc Party but I came to the realisation the other day that it's more that they occasionally write great songs and then the rest is dross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slave2thewage View Post
    I used to love Bloc Party but I came to the realisation the other day that it's more that they occasionally write great songs and then the rest is dross.
    Everything went to crap after "Silent Alarm"
    "A weekend in the city" is ok, "intimacy" is "so-so" and the others are just overkill

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    I think "Mr. Brightside" by The Killers is a genius song. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    Not sure what the general concencus here is, but The Killers are a decent band IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaro View Post
    I think "Mr. Brightside" by The Killers is a genius song. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    But do they have another one which is as good or close?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggroculture View Post
    But do they have another one which is as good or close?
    Human, When We Were Young, Read My Mind are great radio tunes of theirs- just for starters.

    Mr. Brightside is definitely the first song of theirs that caught my attention though.

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    “Smile Like You Mean It” is the only Killers song I like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henryeatscereal View Post
    Everything went to crap after "Silent Alarm"
    "A weekend in the city" is ok, "intimacy" is "so-so" and the others are just overkill
    For me, A Weekend in the City is BY FAR the best album they put out (even though the drum sound sucks throughout). The last half of that album is just pure queer sadness, which is what Kele should have gone for after. Intimacy was just dull, except for Ion Square and Mercury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Human, When We Were Young, Read My Mind are great radio tunes of theirs- just for starters.

    Mr. Brightside is definitely the first song of theirs that caught my attention though.
    I love this song.



    Most of that album has little synth and electronics too.

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    Kid A has a lot of songs I skip.

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    The best Radiohead album is a combination of Kid A and Amnesiac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slave2thewage View Post
    For me, A Weekend in the City is BY FAR the best album they put out (even though the drum sound sucks throughout). The last half of that album is just pure queer sadness, which is what Kele should have gone for after. Intimacy was just dull, except for Ion Square and Mercury.
    I love "The Prayer", it even sounds like Saul Williams to me; i gotta give another listen to "A weekend...", ever since it came out i haven't touched the record, but i remember liking it when it came out (but not as much as "Silent Alarm")

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    the killers suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggroculture View Post
    LCD Soundsystem seems to me like some kind of piece of corporate performance art, to see how far you can get by being completely devoid of substance or style. There's nothing there, just a bunch of hype and hot air. It's Talking Heads art-rock minus the art and the rock. It's middle aged, middle class nihilism turned inwards, finding inside its hollow core an IKEA catalogue instead of a soul.
    I know this is old but ... I fucking love LCD Soundsystem, especially the first album but I loved the next two, too. Saw them live three times, some of the best live shows I’ve ever seen. James is a sarcastic and hilarious smart-ass. Not loving the new album, but that’s what usually happens.

    Reznor’s pre-show playlists during the With Teeth tour included a few LCD Soundsystem songs, and he spun a few while playing DJ on a radio show during that period.

    http://www.theninhotline.net/archive...icle.php?id=88

    This song is hilarious:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6xG4oFny2Pk
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    Quote Originally Posted by ton View Post
    Kid A has a lot of songs I skip.
    I skip all of them.

    \m/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Space Suicide View Post
    Not a Tori Amos fan and I actually do not get her appeal whatsoever. I listened to a few albums in the past and found it a boring chore. I popped a few on today for the hell of it....ugh. Hasn't changed.
    That’s because she (arguably) only has two great albums (the first two) and a handful of great songs (Bouncing Off Clouds being top tier).

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    several bands that i normally adore put out albums this year that i don't like, and it's really disappointing.

    mogwai, qotsa, godspeed you black emperor, liars, marilyn manson.

    i'm glad i have a wide range of tastes in music (and that other bands i like have put out great stuff recently) because these are all bands i've loved for almost 20 years.

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    the Ulver discography will keep you busy

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    several bands that i normally adore put out albums this year that i don't like, and it's really disappointing.

    mogwai, qotsa, godspeed you black emperor, liars, marilyn manson.

    i'm glad i have a wide range of tastes in music (and that other bands i like have put out great stuff recently) because these are all bands i've loved for almost 20 years.
    There may be more proper places to put this, but the NIN EP’s can be put in there for me as well. Just not digging the Atticus Reznor era. Outside of a song here and there it all seems interchangeable from soundtrack work to HTDA to NIN (if vocals were being taken out).

    Really bummed actually, think my NIN fandom has peaked long ago since being a big fan starting in ~1991. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    several bands that i normally adore put out albums this year that i don't like, and it's really disappointing.

    mogwai, qotsa, godspeed you black emperor, liars, marilyn manson.

    i'm glad i have a wide range of tastes in music (and that other bands i like have put out great stuff recently) because these are all bands i've loved for almost 20 years.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    There may be more proper places to put this, but the NIN EP’s can be put in there for me as well. Just not digging the Atticus Reznor era. Outside of a song here and there it all seems interchangeable from soundtrack work to HTDA to NIN (if vocals were being taken out).

    Really bummed actually, think my NIN fandom has peaked long ago since being a big fan starting in ~1991. :/
    Totally agree with both the original sentiment and, to a somewhat lesser extent, the same sentiment applied to the Nine Inch Nails EPs. Handling the latter first, I think one very solid EP can be cobbled together from the pair that have so far been released.

    1. "Branches/Bones"
    2. "The Idea of You"
    3. "She's Gone Away"
    4. "This Isn't The Place"
    5. "The Background World"

    Having said that, I feel like I should add that "She's Gone Away" and especially "The Background World" are some of the finest post-Fragile songs—the latter of that pair benefits greatly from the score work Trent and Atticus have done together, so I don't think the issue is the addition of him to the official roster. And "The Idea of You" is lyrically genius—at least to me who, for many years, had to make a round of apology calls/texts the day after getting drunk because I always found some way to humiliate myself.

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    But to address and commiserate with the former complaint, here's the list of 2017 albums by adored artists that I found to be rather large disappointments.

    Father John Misty, Pure Comedy
    Frankie Rose, Cage Tropical
    Grizzly Bear, Painted Ruins (after ten full listens, I still can't seem to recall a lick of the album or a single lyric—this was a heartbreaker)
    Marilyn Manson, Heaven Upside Down
    Pains of Being Pure at Heart, Echo of Pleasure
    Real Estate, In Mind
    Run the Jewels, RTJ3
    Slowdive, Slowdive
    St. Vincent, Masseduction (it's okay, a solid middle-of-the-pack release from someone I generally expect to make me swoon—I blame Jack Antonoff)
    Washed Out, Mister Mellow

    Oh, and Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross, Patriot's Day. It's fine, but I find almost all of it totally forgettable—which may have something to do with the fact that I refuse to see the movie—and I think it's easily their worst score. What? You asked for Controversial Music Opinions.

    And I also assume Iron & Wine's Beast Epic will disappoint me, because that's been his trend for a decade now, but I haven't yet been able to afford it. If that's the case, that'll be $120 I've spent on unexpected letdowns this year. I also haven't yet been able to afford the Vietnam War score and am split on whether to listen first or actually listen to it in the context of the documentary. I'm open to suggestions.

    Priests' Nothing Feels Natural and Sampha's Process were also big letdowns, but I wasn't already into them, so I consider it acceptable risk/failure. But that brings the total to $130 already (not accounting for the potential Iron & Wine sorrows).

    Honestly, three of the best albums I've bought this year were by artists I'd never heard of or checked out before (SZA, The Mountain Goats, Mount Eerie). Only two formerly adored artists actually exceeded my expectations (Mac DeMarco & The XX) and two solidly met the high-ass bar I've set for them (Spoon, Kendrick Lamar).

    There are six albums by artists I have formerly loved which I want to check out before New Year's and compiling my year-end list:

    Iron & Wine, Beast Epic
    Emily Haines & the Soft Skeleton, Choir of Mind
    Ted Leo, The Hanged Man
    Hundred Waters, Communicating
    Cults, Offering
    Beck, Colors (although I've been forewarned that this will be a let-down by friends and one review ended with the fucking hilarious summation "I heard the sunny, percussive single "Up All Night" wafting through a department store recently. It put me in a decent mood while I waited in line to buy socks."

    Hopefully a handful of them will make me feel like I'm not just arbitrarily adding names to my "Top Ten LPs of 2017" list to fill spots 8, 9, & 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesquipedalism View Post
    I also haven't yet been able to afford the Vietnam War score and am split on whether to listen first or actually listen to it in the context of the documentary. I'm open to suggestions.
    I think it works just fine without the documentary. In it it's framed within a lot of other music anyway (be it Ghosts or pop songs from that era). I think the score is strong enough to evoke one's own images of (the) war. And that might even be a more powerful experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r_z View Post
    I think it works just fine without the documentary. In it it's framed within a lot of other music anyway (be it Ghosts or pop songs from that era). I think the score is strong enough to evoke one's own images of (the) war. And that might even be a more powerful experience.
    Thanks for the advice!

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    Not sure how "controversial" this is: There is Frank, and then there is everyone else. Frank Sinatra is the greatest singer ever, period. There will never be anyone who comes close.

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    ^^ the Chairman certainly was an original, innovative phrasing, an original, there will never be anyone like him again.

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-was-to...er-says-680283



    My I-guess-somewhat-controversial comment:

    If you don't like Jazz, I don't like you.

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