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If there's one element in Muse's music that I don't like, is their singer's voice. Way too strident and unpleasant most of the time (especially when he sings in falsetto). They would be better with another (less strident) vocalist.
Last edited by deepblue; 04-04-2015 at 08:31 AM.
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Aside from maybe two songs, I just do not like Muse. Talk about bombastic and trying to be "epic" on virtually every track. Their sound reminds me of a watered-down version of Queen's intentionally campy "Flash Gordon" soundtrack; only Muse is not being ironic. Seriously, whenever I hear "Uprising," I expect to hear, "Flash! Ah-Aaaah..." follow in the chorus.
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I think Placebo has some pretty great songs, but I can see how his voice would grate on some/most people.
I once saw Placebo play with Stabbing Westward opening up. That was a really weird show.
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Tame Impala are awful. To me they're a bit like The Arcade Fire: recycled cliches hailed as something new.
They're like Ween...minus the sense of humor. As if Ween were taking themselves completely seriously.
The idea that there is nothing left to do in music but repeat what came before is really depressing to me.
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In all likelihood they hired him with the aim of getting a Floyd-esque cover (pretty much a case of who you gonna call), I think it's still their "fault" (seems a bit harsh to designate their having influences as a point of fault though)Originally Posted by fillow
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I think Placebo's first four albums are fantastic, Meds is ok. The last two albums have been incredibly bland.
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Death Grips makes my fucking head hurt.
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I much prefer Terry Stafford’s Suspicion over that of Elvis.
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808s - Yeezus > College Dropout - Graduation
I've never understood why Kanye's early production is so favored over the newer production on 808s onward. So much more powerful and unique.
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I'm one of the more vocal fans on here of Kanye in general but I certainly prefer his most recent trio of albums to his early trio. Graduation actually goes toe to toe with 808s for me; I consider it an excellent record in its own right and you can really see that big transition about to happen. There's all of the fun and bombast there but that undercurrent of darker depth that really came to fruition on 808s, then devoured so much of Fantasy, and is pretty much the DNA for Yeezus. Yeezus is one of the most interesting sounding albums I've heard come out this decade. Probably my favorite of the 10's so far honestly. It's high up there at least.
I enjoy all of his work, but 808s on has a depth and power (ay-ay, ah-ah, ay-ay) that can't be argued with. I think I'm always a big fan of transitional albums for bands though so that might be why I'm so much bigger on Graduation than his first two albums out of that trilogy. Flashing Lights is perfection, man.
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It's a travesty that U2 has all this success while superior bands (that do similar stuff...) like James and Echo & The Bunnymen got completely ignored by mass media and fans...
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That's not very controversial at all. I wonder how much shit does Bono eat a day just to be successful.
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I wouldn't say that Echo & The Bunnymen were completely ignored; they definitely had some level of success albeit not comparable to U2.
I do like Echo & The Bunnymen's first four albums but find them to be a bit uneven.
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And, it's worth saying, that James is a pretty preposterous band. Almost all of their songs feel like they fell out of a pretentious acoustic-rock musical. They have their moments, but don't put them on the same pedestal as Echo and the Bunnymen or U2
I say this as much as I think U2 is one of the most overrated bands of all time.... They're still obviously better than James.
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Echo and the Bunnymen were a huge arena type band back in the mid 1980s and sold millions of records. They were bigger than The Cure and The Smiths , New Order, and the Cocteau Twins, The Cult, Jesus and Mary Chain etc. in Britain and Europe anyway....U2 only became a bigger band after their Live Aid performance. And The Joshua Tree. Echo and the Bunnymen did gain a huge cult following in the United States though.
They split in 1988 and derailed their career before they could really become platinum type sellers in the U.S.
Their reformation tour in late 90s was massive too.with this band it was a bit like with the Pixies, their newer material sucked, and after a while the comeback excitement began to wear off. They kept touring constantly and people forgot they were still playing.
But the Bunnymen in the 80s were one of the greatest bands of all time. Had they not reformed they would be bigger now. And as revered as Joy Division.
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I don't find them "uneven" at all, "Heaven up here", does have some filler but it's not TERRIBLE filler and nobody likes "Porcupine" but i think it's one of their best albums.
I think Tim Booth is a much better vocalist and frontman than Bono, he's more likable too, if you don't like them that's cool but i think they are more than "pretentious acoustic-rock", actually they have gone a bit electro, lately...
Bigger than "The Cure", really? i had no idea, i know "The Cutter" charted big in the UK, but unlike The Cure they never had a No. 1 single (either in UK or USA), "Lips like sugar" was a huge hit in latin america but that's about it, to me they are still a cult band but it could be because of the breakup you mentioned, i also think that the songs from "Echo and the Bunnymen" are far more "pessimist" than the songs from U2, i don't know if this is a factor on their "success", but i think it's an important distinctive between the groups.
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The Cure ultimatley sold way more records. But they were not really a HUGE stadium thing untill late 80s around the period of Kiss Me,Kiss Me, Disintegration. For a few years the Bunnymen were one of the biggest rock bands this side.
I find Echo and the Bunnymens music really uplifting and Euphoric. like the best rock n roll. i agree their music was darker at points. less radio friendly. more experimental and weird.
the band members seemed difficult and tough compared to the lovely U2 boys.
i like some of U2s music not an enormous fan. love some of the edges guitar work.
i just cant fucking stand that proffesional preacher aspect of bono. i find it sinister. that all things to all men type person.
urgh. seems so fake. the bunnymen were way cooler.
James have been somewhat forgotten i agree. they were great band. but again in their day they were huge here. Born of Frustration is an amazing song.
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the only early echo album i actually dislike is self-titled.
crocodiles: fantastic
heaven up here: my favorite (definitely disagree with you on there being filler...i love every song on that album)
porcupine: great
ocean rain: the weakest of the four, other than "the killing moon", which is probably their best song, but i still like the album overall.
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My city has a giant hard on for Wilco and I have never been a fan.
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This is going to be hard but... I like the Phil Ramone's production work but I don't know if I can truly get behind the lyricism of many of the artists he produced for (Billy Joel; Elton John, with the exception of Frank Sinatra)
The only reason why 52nd Street is memorable is because of his production work; if there was anybody else behind the boards, it wouldn't last or be number one.
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It's always interesting when we find something we dissagree, lol...
I do agree that "Self-titled" it's not great, i really like "Lips Like Sugar" and "Over you", but most of the album is forgettable, the "arena-rock" production on the album doesn't help either.
I also know it's WAAAAY past their first albums but i think "Siberia", it's one of their best...
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as far as muse goes, which ever album had Space Dementia on it...i fucking loved that one.
and ex gf had it and we listened to it in like 2001 or 2? idk, it seems like a lifetime ago, but we listened to it constantly.
how about this?
the breeders > the pixies.
i fucking ADORE the breeders.
while i'm at it, the lemonheads are one of my very favorite bands of all time.
also, these past few months, i've really been getting into Odd Future. Earl Sweatshirt is a fucking lyrical genius and Tyler is just awesome.
everyone my age seems to think that they are just punk kids-the wife hates it, my mom hates it, but goddamn, i love it. it's the only new (to me) shit that i've got into in a long time. does it make me immature?
Oh, and i like Mer De Noms a lot better than 13th step, although i love them both.
Mer De Noms has this bad ass conceptual quality to it. It is "a perfect circle."
it's a love cycle.
although now that i think about it, 13th step is kind of a cycle too...
emotive is the one i didn't dig as much.
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I never liked Muse, but this new music is awful. The constant constipated Jeff Buckley impression was always hard to get over, but this bullshit? I don't even know who they're trying to fool with this.
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Sinatra has more charisma, attitude and vocal chops than any performer popular today, in any genre. Not sure how controversial that is.
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That isn't very controversial at all. If Frank was alive, he'd be playing mega-stadiums. Plus, he would kick the living shit out of Justin Bieber to oblivion.
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Imagine if Frank were still alive, at 100, and had accepted an award for whatever, and then Kanye said something about "Frank being okay and all, but Beyonce is the greatest of all time!." Frank would probably have gotten his cane and hit him right in the nuts with it.
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I like a few songs. But some of the albums make me wonder if they have band meetings to figure out how to make the next album more arrogant and pretentious than the last.
And if Sinatra were still alive and Kanye pulled that shit on him, someone would knock his teeth out.
Last edited by Piko; 05-16-2015 at 11:43 PM.
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Since his name was brought up, am I the only one who thinks Kanye as a producer/his production is hilariously overrated? I'm not saying it sucks- but overrated. It's kind of like an internet "go to line"- much like a bad and overused Nickelback joke.
His flow/raps style/lyrics definitely suck.
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Of course he's overrated. But, I think that's mostly because the bar is insanely low. Jay Z is up there, but the rest are garbage imo. A lot of guys who no one will remember in five years. Kanye's work is solid enough for longevity. But yeah, he's overrated.
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And then he'd tell Kanye to go get his fuckin' shine box and shine his million dollar shoes.
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