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    So ok. I was totally obsessed with final fantasy when I was a kid, but when they made the jump to PlayStation, I looked at FF7 and was just like "this isn't final fantasy."
    and over the years I've replayed the old games, but never past 6. I recently got VII and aim to give it a try soon.
    I was looking at footage from the later titles and I just couldn't fucking believe how different and bad ass they look.
    So I have a ps 3 now and I'm wondering: is there a really good one for PS3? Also, what are the best ones in general up to PS3? I'm thinking I can probably get a lot of them on the PS store. I'm ready for the future, 20 years late

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    So ok. I was totally obsessed with final fantasy when I was a kid, but when they made the jump to PlayStation, I looked at FF7 and was just like "this isn't final fantasy."
    and over the years I've replayed the old games, but never past 6. I recently got VII and aim to give it a try soon.
    I was looking at footage from the later titles and I just couldn't fucking believe how different and bad ass they look.
    So I have a ps 3 now and I'm wondering: is there a really good one for PS3? Also, what are the best ones in general up to PS3? I'm thinking I can probably get a lot of them on the PS store. I'm ready for the future, 20 years late
    There's only really one for ps3 (FFXIII and it's sequels). PS2 era had FFX (considered one of the best) and FFXII (one of my least favorites).

    A lot of people aren't crazy about FFXIII. They feel it's too linear (which is true) and whatever other issues they have with it. I think it's great. Extremely fun battle system with a pretty cool, consistent story. Visually amazing as well.

    XII feels bland and lifeless to me. A lot of people enjoy it though.

    The visuals for the newer games post-first nine have been absolutely amazing while other aspects end up lacking. Something is missing in these games. XV is a very fun game but the story was lacking (a lot of it because of dlc purposes). Final fantasy visuals are probably the only real consistent thing now.

    Rant over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    So ok. I was totally obsessed with final fantasy when I was a kid, but when they made the jump to PlayStation, I looked at FF7 and was just like "this isn't final fantasy."
    and over the years I've replayed the old games, but never past 6. I recently got VII and aim to give it a try soon. ...
    Is that a PSN version, an emulator, or the original PS discs?

    VII had a lot going for it in 1997. Certain elements of VII have not aged gracefully, but it still has a good experience to offer, for those who have the patience. Another great series entry was FF Tactics. There is probably a following that would champion FF IX over VII. IX is probably more reminiscent to the pre-VII era games but with considerably better graphics as it came out nearing the end of the original PlayStation lifespan.

    I personally found FF X and XII both to be so-so. Got about 20 hours into FF 13, put it down and haven't played any new series titles since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Channard View Post
    Is that a PSN version, an emulator, or the original PS discs?

    VII had a lot going for it in 1997. Certain elements of VII have not aged gracefully, but it still has a good experience to offer, for those who have the patience. Another great series entry was FF Tactics. There is probably a following that would champion FF IX over VII. IX is probably more reminiscent to the pre-VII era games but with considerably better graphics as it came out nearing the end of the original PlayStation lifespan.

    I personally found FF X and XII both to be so-so. Got about 20 hours into FF 13, put it down and haven't played any new series titles since.
    this is the PSN version.
    Thanks for the tip on FF IX.
    I mostly only play NES and Super NES games, so if it was good in 97, I'll probably dig it now.
    The reason I didn't get into it is that I was initially put off by the 3D graphics.
    I was the same way about Zelda and have just started playing Ocarina of Time, which has really impressed me

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    I mostly only play NES and Super NES games, so if it was good in 97, I'll probably dig it now.
    The reason I didn't get into it is that I was initially put off by the 3D graphics...
    FF VII had initially gone into development intended as a SNES title, but was later shifted to the more capable PlayStation. Can’t help but wonder how differently things would have turned out for the title and the franchise if they has seen it through as a SNES release, especially being at the tail end of that hardware’s lifespan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Channard View Post
    FF VII had initially gone into development intended as a SNES title, but was later shifted to the more capable PlayStation. Can’t help but wonder how differently things would have turned out for the title and the franchise if they has seen it through as a SNES release, especially being at the tail end of that hardware’s lifespan.
    Probably would've been better as 2d sprites imo. Not sure how the world would've been though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Channard View Post
    FF VII had initially gone into development intended as a SNES title, but was later shifted to the more capable PlayStation. Can’t help but wonder how differently things would have turned out for the title and the franchise if they has seen it through as a SNES release, especially being at the tail end of that hardware’s lifespan.
    So when you guys talk about it not having aged well, are you talking graphics?

    Also, has anyone played Final Fantasy Tactics Advance? (or advenceD, whatever it is.)

    I think I have that one on the old emulator

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    So when you guys talk about it not having aged well, are you talking graphics?
    To this day I adore everything about the game because of nostalgia, but objectively yes, by today’s standards the character model graphics are very dated, the prerendered environmental backgrounds are still fine. By today’s standards, I’d guess many people would find the battle system antiquated and a chore to get through. And the game is fairly linear both in map progression and narrative, with only a few side quest options. No voice acting, and some very long battle animations, especially for summons. Maybe too many interchangeable characters that are underdeveloped.

    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    Also, has anyone played Final Fantasy Tactics Advance? (or advenceD, whatever it is.)

    I think I have that one on the old emulator
    I only had the PS FF Tactics. Probably also pretty easy to find on an emulator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Channard View Post
    To this day I adore everything about the game because of nostalgia, but objectively yes, by today’s standards the character model graphics are very dated, the prerendered environmental backgrounds are still fine. By today’s standards, I’d guess many people would find the battle system antiquated and a chore to get through. And the game is fairly linear both in map progression and narrative, with only a few side quest options. No voice acting, and some very long battle animations, especially for summons. Maybe too many interchangeable characters that are underdeveloped.
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    This is why I'm SO happy that I DIDN'T keep up with video games.
    The last console I really got into was the N64, so today's standards don't mean anything to me, you know?
    This means I was able to buy a PS3 with 2 controllers and the big hard drive for like $90 either last year or the year before and have it be a stunning quantum leap forward.
    And I got most of the best games for under $10 each, and I am utterly blown away by the graphics of a lot of them. Hell, I'm still very impressed with Wii graphics!

    As far as the battle system, I still play Chrono Trigger and FF 4 and 6, and I fucking love the battle systems on those games. Is the FF7 system fairly similar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    As far as the battle system, I still play Chrono Trigger and FF 4 and 6, and I fucking love the battle systems on those games. Is the FF7 system fairly similar?
    The materia (materia being essentially congealed magic that can slot into armor or weapons enabling the bearer to use the magic) system adds some strategy and customizability to the characters, but yeah, if you’ve played the aforementioned games, it shouldn’t take long before the combat system feels familiar. Look at the screenshot, pretty self explanatory…





    Off topic, but The Legend of Dragoon was a pretty good RPG from its respective era. Stacks up well with the stuff coming from Square at that time.

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    The original PS1 version of FFTactics is the best I've been told, but I've never been too into that sort of isometric strategic combat... I keep meaning to give it a chance. It's supposed to have one of the best stories too.

    Elevenism, FFVII's combat is very similar to the original turn based ones. The PS4 rerelease fixed some issues, such as the overlong summons and long map treks by letting you speed the game up... though it also allowed you to go into god-mode, which was a bummer. I know, I know, you don't HAVE to use it, but it just sits there and tempts you.

    The original map area of VII is super-iconic. Midgar still looks amazing, and it has an atmosphere that no other game has. It just looks magical. That part, graphically, has aged incredibly well... unfortunately, that also highlights how horrible the character models look. No matter how good the design was, they look jokey, like a Lego game. Also, while some of the drama works, some of it totally is laughably bad... like Cid's story... I'll avoid spoilers, but try not to bust out laughing at that flashback sequence.

    The pacing is inconsistent, some of the humor is cringe-inducing... The music is phenomenal, the villain is the best FF villain ever... If they just took all the good aspects, tweaked some of the corny stuff, updated the graphics... they would have the best game ever. Unfortunately, the remake is looking like they're missing that point, and they're just reskinning FFXV... which, actually, could be cool. The combat in XV was great, and I loved the open world.

    We'll see... but the original is still one of the most iconic games ever, and it's worth playing even just to look at it as a piece of history, and the good parts REALLY live up to the hype, despite the bad.

    If you wanna grab a really good PS1 era JRPG that was seriously sadly overlooked, check out Suikoden 2. It's on the PSN store for PS3. That's an incredible game.

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