Twin Peaks - Spoilers

[Prettybrokenspiral]

It's perfect the way they left it. Reinvented television in the 90s, then returned 25 years later to turn everything on its head again. Don't monkey with it any further.

Funny because everyone shits on the James-Evelyn Marsh storyline, but I'd take that over Civil War Ben, Little Nicky or Super Nadine any day. At least James and Evelyn had remote Twin Peaks-ish vibes going for it..

But if they do end up bringing it back, they definitely need to include Moira Kelly, Chris Isaak and Kiefer next time. Also, more Teakettle Phillip Jeffries, please..

[henryeatscereal]

Funny because everyone shits on the James-Evelyn Marsh storyline, but I'd take that over Civil War Ben, Little Nicky or Super Nadine any day. At least James and Evelyn had remote Twin Peaks-ish vibes going for it..

I like the "Evelyn" story line and i agree that is very "Twin Peak-ish".

In a way Evelyn is another "Laura Palmer", the point of that story shows how even running away, James will always find and fall for Laura...

[eversonpoe]

Re-watched the first episode and then the second episode. Couldn't help myself.

The scenes with modern-day Cooper in the Black Lodge were absolutely spellbinding. I'm guessing Danzig Cooper is in some way the evil doppleganger version that was chasing him around 25 years prior?

It was also excellent to see Balthazar Getty, who played Pete in Lost Highway, sitting at the bar with Jean Renault hanging out behind him. Chromatics did a bang-up job bringing the Bang Bang Bar into 21st century, too..

(And speaking of Lost Highway: http://www.avclub.com/article/lost-h...stereos-254610)

jaques, not jean. and i'm confused, becauase he's dead.

[imail724]

Both are dead. The Wikipedia page lists Jean as the only returning Renault brother, but attributes him to the wrong actor.

Michael Parks, who played Jean during the original run, died in real life two weeks ago.

Maybe it's all part of the mystery..

This new character is actually credited as Jean-Michel, so I guess he's playing a third brother or cousin or something.

[Sebek]

Twin Peaks is my #1 favorite tv show ever. Speaking of Lynch though, has anyone notice him playing himself in American Dad lately? I caught the Halloween episode and though "that's weird, Lynch is in a cartoon... maybe since it's a weird Halloween episde" -- but then I saw him in another one, too.

[Wretchedest]

Twin Peaks is my #1 favorite tv show ever. Speaking of Lynch though, has anyone notice him playing himself in American Dad lately? I caught the Halloween episode and though "that's weird, Lynch is in a cartoon... maybe since it's a weird Halloween episde" -- but then I saw him in another one, too.

I'm trying to make sense of this. Unfortunately I can't find any clips.

Also I reccomend against Fire Walk with Me. By the time you can see it without spoiling everything, it just rehashes everything you know. It's extremely depressing and it lacks the charm that the series has.

[richardp]

It's extremely depressing and it lacks the charm that the series has.

I actually liked that about the film. It was it's own identity, while still being associated with the series. The story for the series was always dark and depressing, but the show was able to mask that with humor. The film actually dove into Laura Palmer's world showing how un-humorous and serious what she was going through really was. It was a lot less fantastically and grounded more in reality. Very very dark stuff, but also very moving, in my opinion.

[frankie teardrop]

i really love those first two julee cruise albums (and might have made mention of them elsewhere in the music forum). fun fact= 'falling' was our wedding processional song!

my original tagline on the old boards was i am the muffin...which reminds me of my favorite scene from fire walk with me, and .

[PQHooligan]

i really love those first two julee cruise albums (and might have made mention of them elsewhere in the music forum). fun fact= 'falling' was our wedding processional song!

my original tagline on the old boards was i am the muffin...which reminds me of my favorite scene from fire walk with me, and .

I believe you'll appreciate this then:



So who is a fan of David Lynch's album Crazy Clown Time?

http://www.amazon.com/Crazy-Clown-Ti.../dp/B005N0C0C8

[Frozen Beach]

So who is a fan of David Lynch's album Crazy Clown Time?

http://www.amazon.com/Crazy-Clown-Ti.../dp/B005N0C0C8

I am. Surprisingly, it's not as abstract as I thought it would be. A lot of people fear that this is getting in the way of him making films, which I think is pure horse shit. Everyone should know that David makes films when he has an idea. He doesn't shit films out like most directors.

[halloween]

Oh man, I love this show. It was definitely a little odd when I saw the first episodes for the first, after i'd seen other of david lynch's works. I was just sitting there thinking "what's the catch? this is almost too normal??" And of course... I was rewarded as I kept watching heh. I had a funny conversation with a couple of friends at school once. During break in class, this girl turns to me and the other guy sitting there and says "So what's up with Twin Peaks? Is it just some bad show from the 90s?" And I immediately turned and looked at the guy, who also looked at me- as if we were both thinking "WHAT DID SHE SAY? WHAT DO WE SAY?" And so we asked her how much she's seen of it, and of course she said only the first episode and she had never seen anything else by lynch so in the end I think we both convinced her to "just keep watching it", since we couldn't really explain much about it. Hehe.


P.S. I still haven't seen the movie however. People have told me to "not bother" but seeing some people here say they liked it, I think I might bother after all. Just for shits and giggles.

[Aaron]

I've had that conversation so many times, about so much of David Lynch's work. Definitely watch the movie, though, if only because it ties up some loose ends from the series, and it's also very good in its own right. Just don't expect a feature-length version of a Twin Peaks episode, because it's very different. Much darker, much more violent and sexual, as others have said.

[Vertigo]

In my opinion, Twin Peaks is a show with kind of a dual identity - part Lynchian weirdness and darkness, part witty, comedic pastiche of American soaps. Throughout most of the show those elements sit together quite happily, but after a certain major event in the second season (don't want to spoil it for anyone), the Lynchian side totally drops out until right at the end. Throw in a seriously underwhelming new villain, and I've never been happy with the latter part of the series.

Fire Walk With Me makes up for it, in my opinion, by going the other way - it's all-out Lynch. Given the foundation of the series, I think it's more accessible and affecting than any of his other films - I'd recommend it to anyone. It's enormously spoilerific if you haven't seen the series, however...

[cicatriz]

I was ready to jump onto the Twin Peaks bandwagon until I made it to Season 2. Fuck it's bad.

[Morad]

I started watching it last month, and I'm nearly finished with Season 2, and I have to say, it's so disappointing to see this once-amazing show go downhill in its second season. I really thought Season 1 was perfect in every way, then Season 2 just got... weird - and not in the good Lynchian way. With the exception of that beautiful Leland Palmer reveal, I can't find myself caring for any of the plotlines or the characters anymore; they aren't real and tangible anymore, and they feel like poorly-made cartoon characters. The storyline with James "on the road" is utterly atrocious, and other plots like Little Nicky and Ben Horne's civil war obsession just brings me to shame. This was such a great show with such complex characters in the first season, and now I feel I have to force myself to finish the show all the way through. While Season 1 to me was a textbook on how to make a TV show in the best possible way, Season 2 seems like a textbooks on the don'ts of television.

Also, although I understand that this was early '90s television, the use of lightning, storms, and all those other cliched scenic devices bother me quite a lot. I really don't understand where the writers are taking this show in the second season, and unfortunately, I don't really care. Every time I watch an episode now, I just get frustrated at how bad it is getting, especially considering how we came to love all these characters so deeply in the first season.

[Vertigo]

Morad - I know what you mean, but make sure you check out Fire Walk With Me. I think you'll like it.

[Morad]

I'm really looking forward to seeing it after reading this thread actually! That entire "Fire Walk With Me" storyline was exactly what made me fall in love with the show in the first place.

[Agent Dale Cooper]

Twin peaks is a masterpiece.
Funny, surreal, terrifying and everything else.
It's great to see people still discovering the series to this day.
Fire Walk With Me is also an essential addition.
I long for a blu ray release of both series one day.

[icklekitty]

This dynamic is possibly my favourite thing about the whole show:

[Space Suicide]

I still need Season One, I own Season Two on DVD and have for quite some time. Snagged it from Big Lots last year for $6.00. Amazing deal.

[diptych]

From what I've heard, the reason Season 2 of Twin Peaks was decidedly un-"Lynchian", was because he was filming Wild At Heart at the time and unable to give major input to the writers. He did return toward the end of the season and brought the show back on track for the most part, but unfortunately it had lost a large portion of its viewing audience by then and it was cancelled before Lynch could properly revitalize it.

He was also planning to make more movies based on the series (originally talking about making a trilogy of films) but Fire Walk With Me barely made any money at the box office so these plans were scrapped.

Over the years, there's been the occasional rumor about Lynch or one of the series' ex-cast members having plans to reboot the series, or bring it back to life in some other format. Personally, I would love to see this happen! Imagine what could happen if they get the right people involved.

[Frozen Beach]

From what I've heard, the reason Season 2 of Twin Peaks was decidedly un-"Lynchian", was because he was filming Wild At Heart at the time and unable to give major input to the writers. He did return toward the end of the season and brought the show back on track for the most part, but unfortunately it had lost a large portion of its viewing audience by then and it was cancelled before Lynch could properly revitalize it.

Lynch was there(well, in and out) for the beginning of the season until after the big unveil. Everything after, besides the final episode, wasn't Lynch. I don't really see why though he didn't have time to direct when he had plenty of time to act in it...

[Lew]

[Prettybrokenspiral]

I'm gushing. This is absolutely fantastic..

[Lew]

I'm gushing. This is absolutely fantastic..

i know, eh? bless twin peaks reddit and the creator of that video
and you for loving it so much too.
my husband thinks i am demented for how much i loved it. (nothing worse than being super into something and showing someone and there all "uh...ok?". lol. so you just made my day)
that upside down "non existent"! the perfect match between lyrics and scenes! "this is the water and this is the well".

damn fine video. lol.

[Wretchedest]

well, the second season IS kind of unlynchian.... but its not terrible, it's pretty funny sometimes, but it lacks the flair of the first season.

I fthey ever returned I'd want to see what's going on in twin Peaks these days.. Where's everybody been?

[henryeatscereal]

well, the second season IS kind of unlynchian.... but its not terrible, it's pretty funny sometimes, but it lacks the flair of the first season.

I fthey ever returned I'd want to see what's going on in twin Peaks these days.. Where's everybody been?

The second season is uneven mostly for the directing is true, but also the lame and pointless storylines (mostly the ones with James Hurley and Audrey Horne, great characters in the first season but wasted in the second one), but the ending never dissapoints, even though it ends as a cliffanger!

[Lutz]

But they didn't really leave anything in the air from the series. Fire Walk With Me answers the remaining questions from the cliffhanger that weren't already answered directly from Dale's season one dream (or was that only in the european version?).

[henryeatscereal]

But they didn't really leave anything in the air from the series. Fire Walk With Me answers the remaining questions from the cliffhanger that weren't already answered directly from Dale's season one dream (or was that only in the european version?).

That's true but i think "Fire Walk with Me" acts like an epilogue but clearly doesn't answer some of the questions set in season 2 *CAUTION SPOILERS AHEAD* (Who survived the bank explotion?, Does Bob kill again as Agent Cooper?, what happened to Josie's soul?) much of this was going to be answered in the hypothetical third season, but the low ratings and lack of interest from the Production team prevented this from happening...

[Sebek]

I'm trying to get the girl I'm seeing into Twin Peaks... we're 4 episodes in and she is just nooot into it. This is her first experience with David Lynch. Very disappointing. As much as I love it I realize that stylistically it isn't for everyone (although it should be).