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    Also, I'm a little surprised that no one is mentioning the Jermaine Rogers artwork for the Houston show.
    He recently put more out for sale, they are already sold out though.
    Reason I mention it though is that I never noticed the title for it before, "The Choice We've Made". Which seems like it could be a song title.
    Then the words underneath it in the description it says " We stand around with our teeth in our mouths, and we take it.
    We watch the desecration, day after day. We forget that we have hands." Seems like those could be lyrics

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    Quote Originally Posted by becomingtom View Post
    Also, I'm a little surprised that no one is mentioning the Jermaine Rogers artwork for the Houston show.
    He recently put more out for sale, they are already sold out though.
    Reason I mention it though is that I never noticed the title for it before, "The Choice We've Made". Which seems like it could be a song title.
    Then the words underneath it in the description it says " We stand around with our teeth in our mouths, and we take it.
    We watch the desecration, day after day. We forget that we have hands." Seems like those could be lyrics
    A few people have started looking into the tour posters. I agree with everything you said, especially about potential lyrics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by becomingtom View Post
    Also, I'm a little surprised that no one is mentioning the Jermaine Rogers artwork for the Houston show.
    He recently put more out for sale, they are already sold out though.
    Reason I mention it though is that I never noticed the title for it before, "The Choice We've Made". Which seems like it could be a song title.
    Then the words underneath it in the description it says " We stand around with our teeth in our mouths, and we take it.
    We watch the desecration, day after day. We forget that we have hands." Seems like those could be lyrics
    This was already discussed.

    We have no information at all. The best we can do is speculate.

    Before anyone gets too excited, remember that there were several poems/messages on the With Teeth poster which have never been released in a musical format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    This was already discussed.

    We have no information at all. The best we can do is speculate.

    Before anyone gets too excited, remember that there were several poems/messages on the With Teeth poster which have never been released in a musical format.
    So...WITH_TEETH_DELUXE confirmed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_guyet View Post
    So...WITH_TEETH_DELUXE confirmed?
    Sure, in 2005.

    Actually, he said he wanted to release the album with a book or essay attached at some point. That the package would be changed in some way and everything would make sense. This may have became the Year Zero ARG.

    I guess it could still happen at some point.

    As with anything NIN, don't hold your breath; it might never happen.

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    We have had the William Gibson thing have we? Don't see it in the thread here but it seems familiar. Just googling away here..

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    Sure, in 2005.

    Actually, he said he wanted to release the album with a book or essay attached at some point. That the package would be changed in some way and everything would make sense. This may have became the Year Zero ARG.

    I guess it could still happen at some point.

    As with anything NIN, don't hold your breath; it might never happen.
    Oh believe me, I remember. I'm still waiting for it to make sense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotoriousTIMP View Post
    Who is Kraw again?
    Quote Originally Posted by becomingtom View Post
    I believe he did the artwork for the first 2 EP's
    "NIN Art Director" also for the reissued Definitive Edition vinyl releases and The Fragile: Deviations 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by astfgyl View Post
    We have had the William Gibson thing have we? Don't see it in the thread here but it seems familiar. Just googling away here..
    Trent Reznor collaborated with William Gibson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    Sure, in 2005.

    Actually, he said he wanted to release the album with a book or essay attached at some point. That the package would be changed in some way and everything would make sense. This may have became the Year Zero ARG.

    I guess it could still happen at some point.

    As with anything NIN, don't hold your breath; it might never happen.
    Still waiting for that proshot TDS era show.

    Or the footage from the Wave Goodbye club shows, IIRC some of those were filmed.

    Or the full Tension 2013 show.

    How about the Zac De La Rocha album? Tapeworm?

    Love Gun, Sex Dwarf and Just Do It

    the list goes on

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    Trent Reznor collaborated with William Gibson?
    Can't tell if you're joking or not. Just that when I googled "glassy bending flexible" it came up as being from a novel by William Gibson. That, along with another bit about burnt matches in the same or next line made me think that it is there for a reason in the hidden lyrics. I still feel like that has been brought up here before but I don't see it after running through the thread here.

    Edit. Found a link to an interesting review of the book it is from. Some good food for thought there a few parallels maybe. Thought the statement about the leather jacket and sunglasses was funny, too.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/the-peripheral-by-william-gibson-prescient-plausible-tale-of-time-travel-1.2010653

    And reviewed by a Peter Murphy for extra coincidence points
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    Quote Originally Posted by astfgyl View Post
    I think there is a reason for all of the musical/lyrical/packaging callbacks. It all feels like a fuzzy memory of something that may or may not have happened. Maybe that is as far as it goes and that is the idea he is trying to convey, I don't really know, but I feel we are being gently nudged towards something.

    While I was thinking about it earlier and listening to NTAE, it occurred to me that the main guitar riff in BB(FOF) is a lot like the riff from Piggy (Nothing Can Stop Me Now), only slowed down and pitched down an octave or so. Try it yourselves, the progression at the very least is similar. Funnily enough it was the same guitarist credited on both. I'm not saying it is the same take but there might be something there in the similarity and if there is, I think it is a crumb thrown our way but not the key to an ARG or anything. Just another example of the fuzzy memory theme seemingly (to me) running through the EP.
    I tried speeding up my turntable a bit to try and play "Burning Bright" at that same insane Piggy remix tempo, and in the end resorted to pitching it up further (well over an octave) in Adobe Audition.

    Anyway, I give you the result: Alvin & The Chipmunks Sing NIN.

    Quote Originally Posted by astfgyl View Post
    when I googled "glassy bending flexible" it came up as being from a novel by William Gibson. That, along with another bit about burnt matches in the same or next line made me think that it is there for a reason in the hidden lyrics.
    Are you talking about the words "glassy and flexible" on the first page of the first chapter of The Peripheral? That's not even the same phrase.

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    1 minute I'll find the page again

    OK you're right it doesn't have "bending". The NTAE hidden text says

    glassy and flexible
    She's the hour hand
    See Im doing stubs of burnt matches matches down inside that
    And the line I found was

    He hadn’t bothered to bring the shop vac down from the garage, just bombed the inside a good inch thick with this Chinese polymer, dried glassy and flexible. You could see stubs of burnt matches down inside that, or the cork-patterned paper on the squashed filter of a legally sold cigarette, older than she was.
    I found it at http://www.penguin.com/ajax/books/excerpt/9780425276235


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    So... I'm not sure what I'm meant to infer: that this is another key phrase meant to throw us on the trail of YZ2 (traced out carefully, years in advance of this EP, via dodgy-looking anonymous blogs and references to reasonably well-received Sci-Fi novels with almost but not quite the same phrases in them)...?

    Or that the text insertions are random lifts deliberately meant purely to screw with us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    So... I'm not sure what I'm meant to infer: that this is another key phrase meant to throw us on the trail of YZ2 (traced out carefully, years in advance of this EP, via dodgy-looking anonymous blogs and references to reasonably well-received Sci-Fi novels with almost but not quite the same phrases in them)...?

    Or that the text insertions are random lifts deliberately meant purely to screw with us?
    I don't know what you are meant to infer. Maybe they help to build a narrative. I have already come out and said I don't think it is an ARG or YZ2. Seriously though, do you think that it is pure coincidence? And why are you so against the idea of there being some relation there?

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    I'm a fan of William Gibson and I don't think the book is more than tangentially related to the 'narrative' of the EPs so far. It does concern the characters' attempts to contact alternate realities, the events of which are drawn inexorably together once they make contact. So maybe that's an important clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    I'm a fan of William Gibson and I don't think the book is more than tangentially related to the 'narrative' of the EPs so far. It does concern the characters' attempts to contact alternate realities, the events of which are drawn inexorably together once they make contact. So maybe that's an important clue.
    Oh we are in agreement there, I don't think there is like an "answer" of any sort to be found in that book, beyond what you are saying. I just thought it was interesting to find it as a result of the hidden text. From what I can see, and I haven't read the book I've just read a single review of it, he might have read it himself and taken a little inspiration from that. Maybe not even for the whole EP, maybe just informed a little of his thinking as he was writing lyrics for that one song. It could just be that he is a fan of Gibsons' work and would like to tip his hat to him. I haven't read any of Gibsons' books, but after chasing that text up and reading the review it sounded like something I might like to get around to. It could be as simple as that, and it probably is.

    Most of the time here I'm not really looking for any type of answer, I just enjoy the hunt for more food for thought regarding NTAE. Much as I am always looking for more lore around The Fragile, even all of this time later.

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