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    Quote Originally Posted by playwithfire View Post
    No, I mean literal hyperbole. Like, "Roy Moore is a pedophile".
    well, what is the preferred name for this kind of scumbag then?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    well, what is the preferred name for this kind of scumbag then?!
    Ephebophile? Predatory asshole? He's human garbage, but to call him a pedophile is, literally, hyperbole (or just inaccurate). I mention it just because it was a quick example that came to mind.

    Like I said, pedantry is a tool of fascists so this isn't a hill I'm gonna die on. But, the left is absolutely guilty of hyperbole/inaccuracy/hypocrisy because it's a terribly human set of behaviors and something we're prone to when our emotions are running high. And there are so many things that justifiably cause strong emotions.

    And again, I'm saying shit is already horrible and that we don't need to emphasize it being inaccurately horrible because it's already very horrible.

    (Yes, I'm aware that calling someone human garbage is also hyperbole. But, it's accurate.)
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    Hey guys. It’s me again with something that definitely isn’t worth getting worked up about:

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-doj-fi...essions-673398

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swykk View Post
    Hey guys. Itís me again with something that definitely isnít worth getting worked up about:

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-doj-fi...essions-673398
    Nothing to panic about here. Nope.
    This shit enrages me. Why? Why? WHY!!!

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    Because they’re fucking evil people that want it to be 1953.

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    let's be real Obama was only progressive, during and leading up to elections, healthcare was a republican plan gitmo didn't close we were still in Iran and Afghanistan, was hands off leading up to the election did little or nothing leading up to the elections said next to nothing leading up to the elections, there was maybe a blip about russain interference, i think he was far to self aware, and worried about how history would view him, sprinted from public view when done. you would think Benghazi ans the emails would have been enough for the DNC to think twice. But it's all about the donations and Bernie was anti war and anti wall street and there's no money in that. as Adrian said," burned by the fire we made". maybe maybe this will wake people up but I doubt it. we'll see what things look like after the midterms. again the scariest kind of stupid is stupid is stupid that thinks it's smart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swykk View Post
    Because theyíre fucking evil people that want it to be 1953.
    So the date on that article is last September. Where did you see the link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    So the date on that article is last September. Where did you see the link?
    Retweeted last night by a few on my timeline. Good catch.

    Every day it’s some fresh hell so it’s like I’ve trained myself to be ready for it. My mistake on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swykk View Post
    Retweeted last night by a few on my timeline. Good catch.

    Every day itís some fresh hell so itís like Iíve trained myself to be ready for it. My mistake on this one.
    In your defense, I was upset about this when the article came out.I searched Facebook and found a few posts from friends.

    Since itís old news, itís been in the bucket of horrible things we already know. The admin having a stance on being gay is hateful and not without consequence.

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    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/12/u...ntl/index.html

    trump is having to protect himself from uk protesters by erecting a big steel fence/wall thing.
    This is unprecedented, no?

    Meanwhile, he said this: I believe the people in the UK, Scotland, Ireland -- as you know I have property in Ireland, I have property all over -- I think that those people, they like me a lot


    Yeaaah. One way to for sure know that people REALLY like you is when you have to build a steel wall and post up attack dogs and shit just to go anywhere near them. Yea they like you a lot donald. Hell, we all do!!


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    this is such bullshit https://womenintheworld.com/2018/07/...trump-country/

    Trump is pure evil and every day we let him get away with it we sink deeper

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    For the record, the post of yours I replied to was about the SCOTUS nomination and a general comment about being worn down. So that was the scope of my reply.

    To address your specific ACA issue: there are absolutely people who will be harmed more by one president over the other. There are lots of deaths that Hillary would have caused by now that didnít happen with Trump (ex: droned children). But back to ACA, there are no easy answers anymore for a lot of things weíve gotten ourselves into. My biggest opposition to ACA before it happened was that it gave govt another thing to hold over our heads. They now get to threaten to take it away if you donít vote a certain way... this is NOT heathy democracy for exactly the reason in the portion of your post I am quoting. And it sucks.
    Seriously.

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    Finally a Democrat has some balls
    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/wat...trzok-hearing/


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    Quote Originally Posted by playwithfire View Post
    Ephebophile? Predatory asshole? He's human garbage, but to call him a pedophile is, literally, hyperbole (or just inaccurate). I mention it just because it was a quick example that came to mind.

    Like I said, pedantry is a tool of fascists so this isn't a hill I'm gonna die on. But, the left is absolutely guilty of hyperbole/inaccuracy/hypocrisy because it's a terribly human set of behaviors and something we're prone to when our emotions are running high. And there are so many things that justifiably cause strong emotions.

    And again, I'm saying shit is already horrible and that we don't need to emphasize it being inaccurately horrible because it's already very horrible.

    (Yes, I'm aware that calling someone human garbage is also hyperbole. But, it's accurate.)

    ok... so let's call him a predatory ephebophile... that will clear things up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/12/u...ntl/index.html

    trump is having to protect himself from uk protesters by erecting a big steel fence/wall thing.
    This is unprecedented, no?

    Meanwhile, he said this: I believe the people in the UK, Scotland, Ireland -- as you know I have property in Ireland, I have property all over -- I think that those people, they like me a lot


    Yeaaah. One way to for sure know that people REALLY like you is when you have to build a steel wall and post up attack dogs and shit just to go anywhere near them. Yea they like you a lot donald. Hell, we all do!!



    I hope he talks more about "Ireland" in the same breath as the UK over the next new days. His ignorance will get him killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    For the record, the post of yours I replied to was about the SCOTUS nomination and a general comment about being worn down. So that was the scope of my reply.

    To address your specific ACA issue: there are absolutely people who will be harmed more by one president over the other. There are lots of deaths that Hillary would have caused by now that didnít happen with Trump (ex: droned children). But back to ACA, there are no easy answers anymore for a lot of things weíve gotten ourselves into. My biggest opposition to ACA before it happened was that it gave govt another thing to hold over our heads. They now get to threaten to take it away if you donít vote a certain way... this is NOT heathy democracy for exactly the reason in the portion of your post I am quoting. And it sucks.
    Gotcha, thank you for your gracious response.

    I always worry about the SCOTUS nominations because many of the laws supporting people in our situation may be attacked the more conservative the SCOTUS gets. Which would have been the case no matter what Republican President got the chance to name a nominee. A whole lot of corporations and organizations really hate the current laws we have that protect people with disabilities, because it costs them money to do so. Businesses don't like being forced to make buildings wheelchair accessible, and they wouldn't if laws didn't exist making them do so. Schools don't like offering special education, and most wouldn't if laws didn't force them to.

    Which I understand their point of view, but without these laws we have no options. Conservative judges aren't all awful (there was a ruling in 2017 about suing for ADA violations that even the conservative members of SCOTUS were supportive of), but historically they have sided more with protecting the freedoms of organizations and businesses rather than protecting access for those with disabilities. It has gotten better over the years and I don't want to see progress lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eachpassingphase View Post
    Gotcha, thank you for your gracious response.

    I always worry about the SCOTUS nominations because many of the laws supporting people in our situation may be attacked the more conservative the SCOTUS gets. Which would have been the case no matter what Republican President got the chance to name a nominee. A whole lot of corporations and organizations really hate the current laws we have that protect people with disabilities, because it costs them money to do so. Businesses don't like being forced to make buildings wheelchair accessible, and they wouldn't if laws didn't exist making them do so. Schools don't like offering special education, and most wouldn't if laws didn't force them to.

    Which I understand their point of view, but without these laws we have no options. Conservative judges aren't all awful (there was a ruling in 2017 about suing for ADA violations that even the conservative members of SCOTUS were supportive of), but historically they have sided more with protecting the freedoms of organizations and businesses rather than protecting access for those with disabilities. It has gotten better over the years and I don't want to see progress lost.
    No need to be nice with me. I donít offend easy and Iím often an overly inflammatory ass with my political commentary. But thank you .

    As the token libertarian here, Iíd like to point out that a lot of these things have some potentially strong solutions without all the unintended consequences that happen when you look at them from a different perspective than R or D do.

    Look at everything as having a goal of reducing coercive power so that people can live their lives with maximum freedom. If you focus on that, you can get to some pretty solid systems. For example, Hayek was a big supporter of basic income even though a lot of hardline conservatives view it as theft-based income redistribution. Why did he support it? It wasnít to equalize everyoneís wealth in ways you see in socialist and communist systems. ďFair shareĒ. It was to ensure that everyone had just enough material wealth to render them mostly immune to the coercive power of others.

    Imagine if we applied that perspective to the ACA. Sadly, it further concentrated power toward the insurance companies and gave the government another dangerous carrot over the people. That concentration isnít required to eliminate preexisting conditions, etc.

    But itís not like we would get there with either Trump or Hillary. So we are left with this shit. We have to wonder whether any short term improvements will truly have a long term net improvement when all unintended consequences of all paths are considered. I guess itís entirely up to who controls all the different power we are concentrating. And with how little control I, or any individual, has over that power... well itís not comforting.


    Side note: the conservative vs liberal SCOTUS thing is massively misunderstood. Itís not about party lean, itís more about how closely they stick to the constitution and why. And while most results of a SCOTUS decision have an impact that leans one way or another, the actual decision making process isnít this way. Youíd have to read some SCOTUS opinions to really understand this. The vast majority of public discourse completely fails here, sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    ok... so let's call him a predatory ephebophile... that will clear things up...
    I mean, it's accurate, so yes, it would clear things up in a way that probably isn't very important. Again, it was just an example that came to mind, because twitter was endless "Roy Moore is a pedophile" while stuff was going down and... he literally isn't. You said freaking out wasn't hyperbole, so I gave some examples of hyperbole, because I wasn't equating people freaking out to hyperbole. I'm not out here trying to clear up semantics on something that happened like 6 months ago. You asked for what he should be called, I answered.

    Like, my point is that people will repeat inflammatory stuff that isn't correct when they're frustrated and impassioned. That it's an incredibly human behavior, but something the left is (also, like the right, like everybody) absolutely guilty of, and on a broader scale it's problematic and harmful.

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    That toothpaste is out of the tube and will never be put back again thanks to Trump.

    Wait, is that hyperbole as well? Shit. It's a narrow path out here.

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    I feel like I made a very simple and uncontroversial point, that I explained thoroughly. I'm all for y'all giving me shit in the form of "bUT hYPERbolE" but if what I was actually trying to say was somehow unclear def let me know and I'm happy to elaborate.

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    I definitely understand the point about hyperbole and how it undermines the left more often then it should, but I don't really think the Roy Moore ephebophile thing is the best example -- if you ask most people if they consider someone in their 20s or 30s going after a 15yo a pedo, they're going to say yes.

    It just makes me think of the time I first heard of Milo Yiannopolous "technically" endorsing "ephebophilia and NOT PEDERASTRY YOU DUMB LIBCUCKS!". Most people had already made up in their minds that he was endorsing some creepy behavior and just referred to him as the P word.

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    Yeah, you're right. If I thought it was gonna be such a thing I'd have taken longer to think of a different example, honestly. Though I also mentioned the cake ruling and I think that was better. I get why people jump to using the word, but words still have meaning. But yeah. I also think that's a valid parallel to draw, the Milo thing.

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    So those twin propeller helicopters (like from Evangelion) are flying over my office every 5mins, so its either to do with the racist wotsits visit or 2nd Impact is occurring*...

    *I realise this is a VERY specific reference so most of you can ignore this as the ramblings of a shut in otaku

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haysey View Post
    So those twin propeller helicopters (like from Evangelion) are flying over my office every 5mins, so its either to do with the racist wotsits visit or 2nd Impact is occurring*...

    *I realise this is a VERY specific reference so most of you can ignore this as the ramblings of a shut in otaku
    Chinook. Yeah seen a few over the City today. Going for a walk at lunch to see whatís about and who I give the finger to (hopefully)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    It's not the extreme that I am pointing out. It's the indiscriminate outrage. Everything and anything is immediately the end of the fucking world, and its to the point they are prepped in advance to catch any possibility to cast that type of light on it. It's the same bullshit we saw from Fox News, and it absolutely waters down any legitimate gripes people DO have.
    white cishet guy who will never
    be abused or fired for being gay or trans
    be denied an abortion
    be denied a child in adoption for being gay
    be harassed and attacked in public for being black or latinx
    be shot by a cop for being black
    be deported
    be torn apart from your family or put in a cage

    tells everyone else "don't panic, Trump isn't the end of the world"
    and mocks those who do panic about Trump and his policies being a matter of life and death for them

    not enough eyerolls in this world for you

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    Oh look itís that tired old shit. You canít get any more lazy.

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    Oh look, it’s sense that you can’t refute so you insert a pithy comment. Who’s the lazy one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    Oh look it’s that tired old shit. You can’t get any more lazy.
    your whole "libertarian" philosophy is self-serving
    you believe the shit you spout not because it's remotely true but because it supports, maintains, and enables your privileged status in society
    at the expense of the less privileged
    over and over again
    and you are complicit in the suffering of those less privileged than you

    I have zero respect for you
    your bad faith is an ETS fixture at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by october_midnight View Post
    The defendants worked for two units of the GRU that "engaged in active cyber operations to interfere in the 2016 presidential elections," Rosenstein said. One unit stole information using spearfishing schemes and hacked into computer networks where they "installed malicious software that allowed them to spy on users and capture keystrokes, take screenshots and exfiltrate or remove data from those computers."
    At what point do we start to question if they were actually successful in hacking the election software to alter the outcome of the election?

    He was doing so abysmally in the polls, what if he really didn't win?

    I remember reading articles about how each state has their own voting software, and each one manages their own security. If the Russians were successful in altering the outcome of the actual votes, even by small amounts in key states, that could account for the surprising results.

    What the hell would happen if Meuller found evidence of that and could prove that the results of the election were incorrect? Honestly, it really doesn't seem like a stretch at all to think that's a very real possibility at this point.

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