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    The Orville

    I'm enjoying this show. One common complaint from critics is that The Orville doesn't know if it wants to be a comedy or a serious sci-fi show, but why can't it be both? It's not like MacFarlane's other shows, where the jokes keep coming; The Orville seems to go more for chuckles The stories are actually quite good too. It's legit sci-fi.

    And it feels more like Trek than Discovery does, tbh.

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    Yeah, The Orville has been a pleasant surprise. The episodes strike a good balance of humor, sci-fi, and even drama. So far the show’s production generally feels like a throwback to mid 90s ST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Channard View Post
    Yeah, The Orville has been a pleasant surprise. The episodes strike a good balance of humor, sci-fi, and even drama. So far the show’s production generally feels like a throwback to mid 90s ST.
    The most recent episode, "If Stars Should Appear" could have absolutely been used as an episode of Star Trek (snark and violence aside).

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    Oh hell yes, this show is awesome!

    Seth's fandom for Trek really shines and i appreciate how meticulous the episodes have been right down to the shot framing. I really get a kick out of this show, even stuff that isn't necessarily funny i find myself having a fit over. I think there's some more subtle humor than the more obvious gags. Really great parody!

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    I rather enjoyed the last episode, Pria, but am confused. If they destroyed the worm hole and Pria will never come back in time in the first place, won't that mean she won't be there to save them from being destroyed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    I rather enjoyed the last episode, Pria, but am confused. If they destroyed the worm hole and Pria will never come back in time in the first place, won't that mean she won't be there to save them from being destroyed?
    Hahahaha fucking time travel, man i don't know.

    I think because she had already altered events by saving them before the wormhole was destroyed the crew somehow got a reprieve in that time wouldn't reverse itself to course correct on their present existence, perhaps they're now in their own Kelvin timeline and they're actually dead in the Prime one lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastdisciple View Post
    Hahahaha fucking time travel, man i don't know.

    I think because she had already altered events by saving them before the wormhole was destroyed the crew somehow got a reprieve in that time wouldn't reverse itself to course correct on their present existence, perhaps they're now in their own Kelvin timeline and they're actually dead in the Prime one lmao
    That's the explanation I've heard but it doesn't make any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thelastdisciple View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    I rather enjoyed the last episode, Pria, but am confused. If they destroyed the worm hole and Pria will never come back in time in the first place, won't that mean she won't be there to save them from being destroyed?
    Hahahaha fucking time travel, man i don't know.

    I think because she had already altered events by saving them before the wormhole was destroyed the crew somehow got a reprieve in that time wouldn't reverse itself to course correct on their present existence, perhaps they're now in their own Kelvin timeline and they're actually dead in the Prime one lmao

    Just saw the episode.

    Is it possible that this could be a causal loop or a bootstrap paradox? For instance, what if the Orville was originally on a trajectory that wouldn’t have encountered the storm. But by traveling into the past and sending the distress signal Pria altered their course and set into motion a series of events which placed the Orville on a new trajectory fated to intersect with the dark matter storm and destroy the ship. If something like this were so, it could have been her presence altering the timeline that created the very event in the past that she traveled there to save the Orville from. Then by destroying the wormhole the causality loop ends preventing it from ever beginning in the first place and dooming the Orville and her crew. After all, we only have Pria’s word that the Orville is inevitably destroyed, but we never actually see the timeline play out without her interference, so how do we know it’s true? See graph below.



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    But she wouldn't have gone to the past in the first place if the ship wasn't destined to be destroyed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    But she wouldn't have gone to the past in the first place if the ship wasn't destined to be destroyed?
    Thus, the bootstrap paradox (or causal loop). Meaning that it may have been destined to be destroyed only because she traveled into the past and set it on that path, and her future self traveled into the past only because the Orville was destroyed, or so history recorded.

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    Enjoying this alot more than the current "star trek" discovery.

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