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    Has it ever come up that there are some letters totally missing from the lyrics on this sheet?

    "FI" is missing from "infinite" and "FL" from "flies"

    can't see how it would help in this context, but just throwing it out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graceless View Post
    Possibly a Polybius Square? Would be a nice coincidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polybius_square

    Edit: Eh, upon further reflection that doesn't quite fit, but maybe an offshoot.
    surely an offshoot!!! A 5x5 polybuis...a 3x3 something else...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niggo View Post
    The thing is, the patterns are pretty simple and most importantly there are very few varieties. I don't know, maybe they just placed those blocks there because it's visually interesting. :/
    That would be a possibility, but I doubt there is nothing to find in the PC, and that's atleast something.
    There's also the foil-sheet that seems out of place without a proper use, the powder, and the black background of some but not all cards to investigate. And probably even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-signet View Post
    It seems to be arranged in 8 columns with single-pixel separators.


    Helps if you view the second image - back and white with letters removed - and tilt your phone away from you - as flat as you can while still seeing the screen

    Arrangement seems to be :


    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x
    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x
    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x
    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x
    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x
    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x


    Etc. Haven't counted the rows to see if there's a similar layout
    From TITP video. Maybe 85122 is connected to how we read the grid?

    http://i.imgur.com/z00uOkQ.png

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    I just tried adding up all blocks until each space with no blocks and converted those numbers to their corresponding letters in the alphabet -- unsurprisingly this led to nothing!

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    This is starting to look like the Twin Peaks discussion over on welcometotwinpeaks:
    http://welcometotwinpeaks.com/theori...-windows-code/

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    Looks an awful lot like this.



    Edit: no 5 dot X... D'oh
    Last edited by ekrekel; 07-20-2017 at 02:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-signet View Post
    It seems to be arranged in 8 columns with single-pixel separators.


    Helps if you view the second image - back and white with letters removed - and tilt your phone away from you - as flat as you can while still seeing the screen

    Arrangement seems to be :


    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x
    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x
    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x
    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x
    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x
    || x|x|x|x|x|x|x|x


    Etc. Haven't counted the rows to see if there's a similar layout
    Could the cards be data matrix?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Matrix

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0xVd2xXySo

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    without going into too much detail since I'm at work currently, I definitely see a potential cipher in the scans of the full page. I'm going to work on it this evening. This sort of stuff is oddly fun and relaxing to me, even if it leads nowhere. I love patterns but I don't have the PC myself, sadly. So, thanks OP!

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    Don't know if it's important or not but the columns vary in how many vertical rows/slots there are if that makes sense- referencing both sheets I've got the count as such:

    2 - 2 - 3 - 3 - 1 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 3 - 3 - 2 - 3- 2? - 2 - 3 - 3 - 2 - 3 - 2 - 2?(1?) - 3 - 3 - 1 - 3 - 2?

    The 2?(1?) is questionable just because the 'U' towards the very bottom of the sheet is messy and difficult to read (all other characters indicate it being a 1 tho), the other 2? only have two blocks next to each other, but there are spaces where a third could fit.

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    There's also this BB variant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laz001 View Post

    I think this is on the right track.

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    Where there seems to be extra spaces between the 'words', I started to break them into blocks. Not sure if it helps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinbeetle View Post
    Where there seems to be extra spaces between the 'words', I started to break them into blocks. Not sure if it helps.

    looking good, almost like a written sentence, but I doubt we have enough character/code-variety to build a full alphabet (also alot of repeating codes in a row, don't think those are written words) But hey it's a try and maybe worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinbeetle View Post
    Where there seems to be extra spaces between the 'words', I started to break them into blocks. Not sure if it helps.

    Awesome idea! Without any cipher to work against, best bet is most common patterns vs most common letters...or so I gather from.....movies... imagine it would make things easier with word blocks like this

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    So i guess the first 3 (?) lines is a title or maybe the first paragraph. The whole text (?) consists of... about 95% of 3x3 characters (?) AND about 5% of characters with extra block (vertical). Maybe it's a punctiation or upper case letters. idk.

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    Maybe it's somehow related to visual cryptography? I could also see this relating to the Burning Bright (Field on Fire) video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipley View Post
    Maybe it's somehow related to visual cryptography? I could also see this relating to the Burning Bright (Field on Fire) video.
    i had the same thought. not sure how you would go about that though

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    Wait
    What's the physical size of it in cm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xvostya View Post
    Wait
    What's the physical size of it in cm?
    The envelope is 25cmx17cm (give or take). I haven't opened mine but from what I've seen online, it looks like the individual sheets are pretty much that size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malashaan View Post
    The envelope is 25cmx17cm (give or take). I haven't opened mine but from what I've seen online, it looks like the individual sheets are pretty much that size.
    Nono, i mean that area, where text/dots are located?

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    Ah, that will need someone with the sheet to measure, but it fills a good portion of it. Maybe 20cm x 12cm (very rough estimate).

    EDIT: Actually, much smaller. You can see an example here: http://apocalyptech.com/ntae/01_branches_bones/blue_fr_12.jpg

    Looks like about 12x6
    Last edited by Malashaan; 07-20-2017 at 03:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xvostya View Post
    Nono, i mean that area, where text/dots are located?
    You think of a grid, right? Or not?

    the envelope is 25.3x17.7 actually according to my old soviet ruler. My PC is not opened either, so... sorry.

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    I'm just trying to figure out how's that bigger than screen of an iphone/android, for example..

    Wild guess, but...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xvostya View Post
    I'm just trying to figure out how's that bigger than screen of an iphone/android, for example..

    Wild guess, but...
    Yeah... Well, there're too much devices of different sizes... good luck though!

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    Just measured mine- the text block on its longest sides are 2 1/4" x 4 3/16", so 5.715 x 10.63625 cm, approx. Neat idea since the block is so small, but you're not going to be able to see through the PC paper, it's way too thick. Probably could use tracing paper and mark all the blocks and overlay that but idk I'm not holding my breath on finding something that way.
    edit: or, yknow, could just mess with overlaying an image on the BB video digitally like a normal person. Hard to get my head out of traditional media spaces.
    Last edited by klang; 07-20-2017 at 04:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by define View Post

    So i guess the first 3 (?) lines is a title or maybe the first paragraph. The whole text (?) consists of... about 95% of 3x3 characters (?) AND about 5% of characters with extra block (vertical). Maybe it's a punctiation or upper case letters. idk.
    I took the extra block as noise and that whole 1x row would be deleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekrekel View Post
    I took the extra block as noise and that whole 1x row would be deleted.
    Well, i doubt that this is a noise, i think it should mean something... But maybe you are right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullton View Post
    i had the same thought. not sure how you would go about that though
    I dug up some old transparency paper and printed a few different sizes. The issue is the dots on these printouts are nowhere near the size of the static in the video. That alignment isn't going to work unless they're about the same size.

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