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    Here's the link to the Panel spreadsheet - https://1drv.ms/x/s!AmNRKn5V9vZihZdAHz-51vJsh49Xfw

    Also, for a refresher, the "Total Links" column indicates how many other panels contain the type of change/deviation/knob (whatever the hell you want to call it). There might be more links for the new ones that were found this week from Panel L, I've placed the amount to: 1 for the time being because Panel L is the only known to have those "links".

    I think we can go ahead and confirm Panel L = Add Violence, since it specifically has a label on the sleeve. Panel K seemingly would be NTAE, but I don't have 100% proof it would be that.

    Edit... Actually, I don't know, it makes more sense that NTAE would be panel L... anyone have more pics of the slip mat that came with Add Violence vinyl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d1stinct View Post
    I plan to separate the Panels into their own sheets this week while at the in-laws - just to make it more organized, but still keep the overall sheet. I can't remember if I shared this sheet out, but need to look in the previous posts for it.

    Shouldnt it be panel L not Panel N for the golden ratio and such?

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    The left picture was taken from the end of the "This Isn't the Place" video, the right picture was taken from the user that posted the pic on Reddit of the sleeve.


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    Quote Originally Posted by d1stinct View Post
    The left picture was taken from the end of the "This Isn't the Place" video, the right picture was taken from the user that posted the pic on Reddit of the sleeve.

    Right, so where is the panel N coming from with the golden ratio and stuff? sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamclassic View Post
    Shouldnt it be panel L not Panel N for the golden ratio and such?
    I enabled Freeze Pane on the Excel doc so it doesn't confuse the columns when scrolling down, thanks!

    Actually, I just went ahead and removed the headings all together, much less confusing now.
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    A small portion of Panel J was revealed on TR's Instagram. Panel K was posted on NIN's Twitter, featured in the video for THIS ISN'T THE PLACE, & detailed in the AV Physical Component. Panel L is featured on the AV slipmat.

    Have any other Machine Panels been released?

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    I know I've been kicking this idea around since December, and others have too... but Bleedthrough could very much be at play here.




    As someone who used to be on message boards all the times, I'm truly baffled why I can never seem to get my photos to work here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesitation_Marks View Post
    I know I've been kicking this idea around since December, and others have too... but Bleedthrough could very much be at play here.




    As someone who used to be on message boards all the times, I'm truly baffled why I can never seem to get my photos to work here.
    Ep3 better would be Tapeworm related.

    Was there ever any tapeworm artwork out there?


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    Quote Originally Posted by FULLMETAL View Post
    A small portion of Panel J was revealed on TR's Instagram. Panel K was posted on NIN's Twitter, featured in the video for THIS ISN'T THE PLACE, & detailed in the AV Physical Component. Panel L is featured on the AV slipmat.

    Have any other Machine Panels been released?
    The machine panels and their corresponding letters are clearly a code describing the AV ARG in general. Two more will be released -- the letter O and another L -- to complete the ARG's timeline: JK LOL

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    I just read this article: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/...-world-puzzle/ & it reminded me to check in here to see if anyone's cracked the clues for NTAE/AV.

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    Follow that logic?

    If you follow the time scale you propose- what would 0 be on the scale?
    Down In It or Year Zero?

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    Quote Originally Posted by d1stinct View Post
    The left picture was taken from the end of the "This Isn't the Place" video, the right picture was taken from the user that posted the pic on Reddit of the sleeve.

    Forgive me if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I can't help but notice the number on the slipmat: 161803...am I reading that correctly?

    For what it's worth, March 16, 2018 is a..........Friday.

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    Unless something concrete as fuck comes out I honestly thing these are more thematic ties than literal ARG 2 clues, using familiar imagery, lyrical cues and artwork to link everything back in together and fold in on itself.

    2000s Trent loves loops and the idea of things feeding back in on itself, with things like The Loop Closes, Copy of a, NTAE vinyl's B-side, etc. all illustrating that and the idea of everything being a simulation is a great way to insert all of NIN's work into this fictional multiverse idea they have going on, which also is a cool way to portray NIN's overall catalog as the "alternate universe where Trent Reznor doesn't get clean and do well in life and ends up an addict in a dystopic nightmare," and it gives him an opportunity to make a sort of "ultimate" magnum opus that combines every theme, style and ambition of the band into one multi-part project, tying it all together and wrapping a neat little bow on top of it.

    He talked openly about The Lovers being about where he could have gone in life, Trent's a character in the Year Zero ARG, he and Atticus are portrayed in wireframe in the AV PC and the Houston t-shirt (suggesting they're in the simulation) and tons of old lyrics and themes are mentioned in both physical components. I don't doubt there are a lot of cool goodies, easter eggs and references people haven't figured out yet but I don't think anything as expansive, interactive or mind-blowing as Year Zero's ARG is at work with any of this.

    Just look at the end of Hesitation Marks -- a string of songs all dealing with losing yourself, becoming somebody else, split selves melding, fading away and being replaced by something uglier, darker and worse off but stronger, and then the ending of NTAE -- "I'm going back, of course I am ... I am stronger than I have ever been in my decline," and then add the vinyl's b-side on as getting sonically sucked back into your darkest world and you've got an artist obsessed with the idea that no matter what they do, no matter how far they go, no matter how different their life is and no matter how much they grow, they will always have the propensity in them to go right back to that place they escaped from, to re-become that person they've made such an effort to move past being. Add all of that together with fear of dystopia, the current political and global climate being fucking terrifying no matter what side you're on and the feeling of facts not mattering and reality being crazier than fiction and wrapping all of that personal narrative into a high-concept exploration of simulation theory makes a lot of sense.

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    I just found some of Add Violence's extra lyrics in The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner - "dead smell of perfume", "whispers secrets surges", "red swine eyelids".
    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...yelids&f=false


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    Quote Originally Posted by smellofsunshine View Post
    I just found some of Add Violence's extra lyrics in The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner - "dead smell of perfume", "whispers secrets surges", "red swine eyelids".
    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...yelids&f=false


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    Sounds like this book becomes "subversive material" and including them harkens back to the way quotes from banned books would show up in the backgrounds of the sites in first ARG.

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    Just a guess, but I'm thinking 'Add Violence' is associated with the Year Zero ARG website - www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/violence

    The website I mention has no concrete information about it, even though it was a legit subdirectory for a Year Zero ARG website. I searched the nin.wiki and archive.org as well as archive.is and I found nothing.

    I'm thinking that the subdirectories for anotherversionofthetruth.com are related to the EP trilogy. For instance, the subdirectories are /violence, /revisionism, and /0. Revisionism is related to 'Not the Actual Events." Violence is related to "Add Violence." And, 0 is related to the last EP in the trilogy.

    Just a guess, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justonj View Post
    Just a guess, but I'm thinking 'Add Violence' is associated with the Year Zero ARG website - www.anotherversionofthetruth.com/violence

    The website I mention has no concrete information about it, even though it was a legit subdirectory for a Year Zero ARG website. I searched the nin.wiki and archive.org as well as archive.is and I found nothing.

    I'm thinking that the subdirectories for anotherversionofthetruth.com are related to the EP trilogy. For instance, the subdirectories are /violence, /revisionism, and /0. Revisionism is related to 'Not the Actual Events." Violence is related to "Add Violence." And, 0 is related to the last EP in the trilogy.

    Just a guess, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
    Nope, they all are related to Y0 songs

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninjaw View Post
    Nope, they all are related to Y0 songs
    And Add Violence is related to Year Zero, so it's indeed possible that there is some correlation.

    Take this with a grain of salt; I don't fully remember the contents of those web pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdm View Post
    Forgive me if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I can't help but notice the number on the slipmat: 161803...am I reading that correctly?

    For what it's worth, March 16, 2018 is a..........Friday.
    Well... shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdm View Post
    Forgive me if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I can't help but notice the number on the slipmat: 161803...am I reading that correctly?

    For what it's worth, March 16, 2018 is a..........Friday.
    ...well fuck me

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    FWIW the knob on the cover of the AV physical component is labeled for "EVENT INTENSITY" -- ​event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somethingelse View Post
    Well... shit.
    Well, shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdm View Post
    Forgive me if this has been mentioned elsewhere but I can't help but notice the number on the slipmat: 161803...am I reading that correctly?

    For what it's worth, March 16, 2018 is a..........Friday.
    …not the actual friday


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    Not to dredge this all back up again, but did the vinyl section always say, "the dropping of the needle, the difficulty of skipping tracks, the changing of sides, the secrets hidden within...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThinkIcouldburn View Post
    Not to dredge this all back up again, but did the vinyl section always say, "the dropping of the needle, the difficulty of skipping tracks, the changing of sides, the secrets hidden within...."
    Im pretty sure that was on the website store as well, just like it is today for the new album. I don’t think it’s tied into anything other than Trent’s preference to vinyl.

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    Nice catch.
    I would like to add that the insert of multiple pictures in a cover art reminds me HM



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    Quote Originally Posted by acidpits View Post
    Huh, that's interesting, you're absolutely right. I'd say it's the designer using the same layer from NTAE to overlay ADD VIOLENCE with a dirt and scratches effect.

    UPDATE: On Bad Witch, the same mark appears, I’m very curious as to what it represents
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    On the new Bad Witch art, the same jagged marks appear, I think something may be going on here, I’m not sure especially with the spectogram-background world thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrentKliner View Post
    On the new Bad Witch art, the same jagged marks appear, I think something may be going on here, I’m not sure especially with the spectogram-background world thing.
    I guess it's just a way to link all three EP ? What if it will be in the final artwork for a whole album ?

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