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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLIuoE0eQ9E, very good already happening they are going to shift the blame to Hillery, Clinton's, and Obama, can we throw this guy in jail, yet?
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    How are these Don Jr revelations going to lead anywhere? Surely any attorney investigating them is going to be fired...

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    I love Chuck Todd


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    and nothing will come out of these revelations anyway. we are witnessing an judicial coup d'etat in slow motion.
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    Head over to Drudge. Looks like this is all Obama's fault.

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    It's been Obama's fault for eight years. Zika is Obama's fault.

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    how much more evidence is needed to prove collusion and treason?I've got a bag of money ski mask in my back pocket and a gun in my hand but there was no money there, so I guess I can't be charged with robbery,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louie_Cypher View Post
    how much more evidence is needed to prove collusion and treason?I've got a bag of money ski mask in my back pocket and a gun in my hand but there was no money there, so I guess I can't be charged with robbery,
    -Louie
    We have to let the investigation play out.

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    This makes me insanely happy, because I know how insanely mad it's going to make the president.


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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    We have to let the investigation play out.
    i understand the right to due process, but I do believe, this is a genuine threat, and the way it's going only means more and worse is yet to come(although my opinions are solely my own)
    -louie

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    Trump says the wall needs to be transparent so that you can see the sixty pound bags of drugs that are getting thrown over the border.

    https://www.wired.com/story/trump-ba...mbid=social_fb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah K View Post
    Trump says the wall needs to be transparent so that you can see the sixty pound bags of drugs that are getting thrown over the border.

    https://www.wired.com/story/trump-ba...mbid=social_fb
    So I assume the Dumpster has never heard of these DRUG TUNNELS???


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    tight

    A Soviet military officer turned lobbyist attended the Trump Jr. meeting and there may have been a 6th person, too

    http://www.businessinsider.de/donald...dapp&r=US&IR=T

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    Quote Originally Posted by baudolino View Post
    tight

    A Soviet military officer turned lobbyist attended the Trump Jr. meeting — and there may have been a 6th person, too


    http://www.businessinsider.de/donald...dapp&r=US&IR=T
    Hold on, so not only did he meet with Russians, evidence in the emails he did AND more people were there...but it turned out they DIDN'T have ANY dirt on HC so they just ran with the "her emails" nonsense?...this is getting ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by baudolino View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haysey View Post
    Hold on, so not only did he meet with Russians, evidence in the emails he did AND more people were there...but it turned out they DIDN'T have ANY dirt on HC so they just ran with the "her emails" nonsense?...this is getting ridiculous!
    Hence Putin's master plan was to get Trump to the top in order to topple him over shortly after, hoping he would drag down the world order with him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by baudolino View Post
    Hence Putin's master plan was to get Trump to the top in order to topple him over shortly after, hoping he would drag down the world order with him?
    ...at this point i wouldn't be surprised, fuck nothing can surprise me anymore with this...madness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haysey View Post
    they just ran with the "her emails" nonsense?...this is getting ridiculous!
    The media was happy to oblige. They would not stop talking about her emails, and even Clinton went along with it, graciously apologizing and admitting wrongdoing every time it came up instead of saying "enough about the damn emails already, let's talk about the important shit!"

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    Trump White House releases email comments complaining of its plans to release private voter data to the public

    WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...story,amp.html

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    This link is to the White House's records of the public comments on Trump's voter integrity commission. Page 6 is...illuminating: https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whi...ly-11-2017.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    This link is to the White House's records of the public comments on Trump's voter integrity commission. Page 6 is...illuminating: https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whi...ly-11-2017.pdf
    Jesus, this is scary shit. I can't believe nobody has taken this "Committee" to Federal Court to request an injunction. This is like a nightmare. If the WH releases this info, the records will leave these voters TOTALLY vulnerable to fraud and identity theft. The wH PLAN may be the hope that voters withdraw their voting rights to protect their privacy. There is absolutely NO REASON that this info should be shared with ANYONE; not the government but especially not the public. This violates states' rights and voters' rights. Why can't anyone stop this maniac?

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    I just saved that. Holy fuck.... Il Duce has to be IMPEACHED and sent to POUND-ME-IN-THE-ASS-PRISON for life. No state funerals. Nothing to celebrate this man.

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    I've been going through some really volatile shit personally, and so I've been taking a break from politics... I can't take it now. It's too upsetting.

    But THIS?! The way they're blasting the emails from people expressing terror at the idea of their personal information being exploited?

    Maybe it's just my current mental state... but this is legitimately terrifying. I feel real horror. The petulance behind this giant "fuck you" is gutting. What was the stated intention? Why do this? This has to stop. The insanity is mounting and getting more and more bewildering and baffling.

    "One-Man Circle Jerk" is the best description I've heard yet to describe this travesty of a "presidency."
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    Watching the downfall of a presidency in real time.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...&utm_medium=s1

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    Lindsey Graham's Health Care proposal:

    https://www.lgraham.senate.gov/publi...F-C8CE15B8BB53

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jughead View Post
    Actually what we are watching is the biggest witch hunt in american politics history. The DNC can not handle the fact they lost. The corporate legacy media is exposing themselves for what they are. But you know, this is just my opinion man
    That's what Nixon said. Really, he hated the Press, HATED WaPo after the Pentagon Papers were leaked. But, the Press isn't the enemy, they're only providing info that the public wants; if the public didn't want it, the media and press would lose advertising revenue and would have to move on to the next Big Topic. Nixon's disdain for leaks and the Press didn't mean something didn't happen; it's like blaming a security camera for recording you robbing a gas station. A lot of the American public seems to think this is only about Clinton and an election. It's not. It's about a Presidential candidate's campaign staff possibly using or being used by a hostile foreign government in the interest not only of WINNING but also (mostly?) financial gain. There is a HUGE advantage for Russia and Trump winning related to restoring confiscated properties to Russia, and lifting sanctions which is costing Russia and energy companies like Exxon Mobile BILLIONS of dollars in oil drilling deals in Russia, plus TONS of Trump investment money that was coming from Russia. THAT is what is being investigated. NOT just "who won the Election" but WHY Russia gave a shit who won; it wasn't because Putin disliked Clinton; Putin dislikes lots of people; but his primary focus is making Russia the most powerful nation in the world. He's REALLY smart. Rather than watching hippy unemployed YouTube pundits, I HIGHLY recommend that people watch Stone's Putin Interviews.

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/2...tin-trump.html

    Putin is a very scary and very dangerous man, but oooooh so charismatic.

    Charisma is what draws voters to people like Putin. And Hitler.

    Trump is currently attempting to convince American citizens that Putin is a really great guy and our friend.

    He's not.

    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer doesn't work in the game of Risk. It only works in Godfather movies. And Trump is surrounded by Fredos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jughead View Post
    At the end of the day the American people say Hilary for what she was and decided to go with trump.
    The American people did vote for Hillary, by about 3 million more people. But I guess that's irrelevant?

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    Okay, first of all, if we want to have a discussion, you have to at least spell "Hillary" correctly. And "macathrisim" isn't a word. :-)

    Regarding Hillary Clinton and Uranium and Russia: There is a lot of confusion about that, thanks also to the media and soundbytes etc.

    See this: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...m-company.html

    Re a Trump win and what's in it for Russia:

    Exhibit A: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ahead-of-talks

    Exhibit B: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/19/b...aiver-oil.html

    Exhibit C: https://qz.com/982606/all-the-times-...business-ties/

    Exhibit D: http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/20/news...ury/index.html

    Exhibit E: https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thoma...d-trump-to-win

    Also, if you read this thread from the beginning, many of us here said that polls aren't reliable relative to the Electoral College. Polls can be really helpful relative to the popular vote, but not the Electoral win.

    Also, you will recall that the same media that Trump now hates gave Trump 24/7 free coverage during the primaries and during the campaign. I remember the Republican debate in Detroit, where MSNBC was interviewing John Kasich and then suddenly cut him short when Trump was spotted coming down the stairs and they left Kasich standing there like he was a bridesmaid at a wedding so they could rush to get to the Bride, Trump. And Kasich said something like, "Oh, yeah, you guys only want to talk to TRUMP."

    Trump eats that up, always has. But, cross him and he'll publicly roast you. He's ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. This is not a new thing. I've been in real estate law for nearly 30 years, including commercial real estate and mixed-use real estate in the same circles as Trump, dealing with his buildings and his potential clients. THIS IS NOT NEW BEHAVIOR for him.

    Here is an example of the Trump flip-flop he did with architect critic, Blair Kamin: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...07-column.html

    The game isn't "well, would Hillary have done it, too?" There is no evidence that the Clinton campaign was being influenced or assisted by Russia; if there was, THAT would also be news.

    Also, any leaks that show the Clinton campaign having done stupid shit showed just that: Stupid shit. When you don't do stupid shit, leakers won't have any ammo against you.

    But, the question now is also whether or not Russia has a lot of ammo against the Trump's campaign team. It's already been determined that a few members of the Trump team were compromised by data collected by Russia (Manafort, Flynn).

    My husband fills out those FBI clearance forms every 10 years for his top-level clearance needed for his job. There is a reason they need to know every single bit of any foreign involvement you have, including EVERYTHING about your spouse, your parents, your kids, etc. It's because of potential compromise and blackmail.

    Being President makes you vulnerable to plenty of negative press coverage and negative opinion. Trump needs to suck it up, that's just the way it is. Always. This is nothing new. The guy was already a wimp when it came to negative press, and he thought that'd go away when he became President? He really is either delusional or a moron. Or both.

    The media's constant coverage of this Russia stuff does not benefit anyone; left, center or right; it's a DIVERSION from the other REALLY IMPORTANT stuff going on. Like PUBLISHING PRIVATE INFORMATION obtained from voter registration records (making U.S. Citizens vulnerable to identity theft and fraud), or like all of the other crazy shit going on in Congress right now.
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