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    No one's saying those Communist regimes weren't totalitarian, but calling them "fascist" is just historically wrong. Fascists called themselves fascists: Communists called themselves communists. They shared similarities, but ideologically come from opposite ends of the spectrum.

    It's important to be clear about who's who: otherwise we just go down the road of "many sides, many sides." Bannon calling himself a Leninist? Who knows, could be a red herring, could be referring to Lenin's strategic methodology and revolutionary tactics, certainly does not refer to Lenin's underlying belief system which was Marxist and Communist and internationalist, whereas Bannon is clearly a nationalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aggroculture View Post
    No one's saying those Communist regimes weren't totalitarian, but calling them "fascist" is just historically wrong. Fascists called themselves fascists: Communists called themselves communists. They shared similarities, but ideologically come from opposite ends of the spectrum.

    It's important to be clear about who's who: otherwise we just go down the road of "many sides, many sides." Bannon calling himself a Leninist? Who knows, could be a red herring, could be referring to Lenin's strategic methodology and revolutionary tactics, certainly does not refer to Lenin's underlying belief system which was Marxist and Communist and internationalist, whereas Bannon is clearly a nationalist.
    I think some people use the term "fascist" rather broadly and don't understand that their was a political party known as "Fascists," founded by Mussolini.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aggroculture View Post
    No one's saying those Communist regimes weren't totalitarian, but calling them "fascist" is just historically wrong. Fascists called themselves fascists: Communists called themselves communists. They shared similarities, but ideologically come from opposite ends of the spectrum.

    It's important to be clear about who's who: otherwise we just go down the road of "many sides, many sides." Bannon calling himself a Leninist? Who knows, could be a red herring, could be referring to Lenin's strategic methodology and revolutionary tactics, certainly does not refer to Lenin's underlying belief system which was Marxist and Communist and internationalist, whereas Bannon is clearly a nationalist.

    Okay, agreed. I am going to focus on the differences, not similarities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    I think some people use the term "fascist" rather broadly and don't understand that their was a political party known as "Fascists," founded by Mussolini.
    I don't doubt that. In hindsight however Leninism/Stalinism and Fascism have become almost indistinguishable.

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