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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    It's basically the points I made yesterday with a coating of "and if you disagree then you are just a misogynist trying to tell women to be quiet"

    THE SILENCING OF HILLARY CLINTON

    https://psmag.com/.amp/news/the-sile...illary-clinton
    author says:

    "My advice, if anyone's interested, is that if you're not particularly interested in her take on politics, don't buy or read Clinton's book, and leave it at that. And if you're a prominent figure in a party that wishes to be seen as a champion of professional women, think twice before silencing one."

    That's pretty good advise.
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    Meanwhile, HERE is an interesting article: "Democrats’ Secret Weapon: Romney Voters; Stop fetishizing the Obama-Trump converts. If you want to see the future of politics, here’s who Dems need to understand."

    In the six months since the election, we’ve obsessed about Obama-Trump voters but completely ignored their inverse: the Romney-Clinton voters.

    Who are they? Romney-Clinton voters are, generally speaking, college-educated suburban professionals: lawyers, doctors and businesspeople. They voted for Mitt Romney in 2012, but switched to Hillary Clinton in 2016. They abhor xenophobia, the alt-right and racists, but they also mostly socialize within their own race and they’re mostly white. They’re socially liberal but not obsessed with a political agenda. They value fiscal responsibility but also believe in investing in the future, especially education. They remain deeply worried about Trump’s qualifications, scared about his temperament and alienated by his misogyny and ties to extremists. For the first time in a long time, they’re willing to hear about and vote for Democrats.

    For journalists and political operatives, these people are harder to romanticize. They lack the stirring, deeply ingrained Americana imagery of the Appalachian coal miner or the Rust Belt autoworker—a news story set against the backdrop of a paralegal’s research library or a suburban office park simply doesn’t feel as compelling.

    But if you want to see the future of the Democratic Party—and if you want to understand how Democrats can win back a congressional majority—then it’s important that you pay attention to a group of voters who might cut a less evocative image than their Obama-Trump counterparts, but whose support of Democrats could cause the GOP to collapse.

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    In other news, Ted Cruz was basically caught jacking it on Twitter.

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    Is the amount of litigation facing the president (regarding moves made AS the president) unusual? Maybe I just didn't pay attention, but I don't remember previous administrations having this deluge of being sued to prevent proposed legislation from taking effect. I'm sure it happens to everyone, I just feel like this is an abnormally high amount (post triggered by the multi-state lawsuit regarding the DACA decision).

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    In other news, Ted Cruz was basically caught jacking it on Twitter.
    Ok... two things. first and foremost, WHAT?! WHAT?!!!!!!!!

    Secondly, I just gotta say, I've let my mind go to some dark places... your post here just took me, mentally, to a place I shouldn't have gone. Here I am, trying to express this, and I'm reeling from the shattering images that flash through my brain unheeded. I try to push them back, like you can do with the oncoming feeling of impending vomit (which feels particularly relatable right now), but the horror is too great. My mind is vomiting.

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    Can someone explain this Cruz thing? I'm not sure how to google this without stumbling on something traumatizing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Can someone explain this Cruz thing? I'm not sure how to google this without stumbling on something traumatizing...
    Either himself or someone on his staff managing his twitter account "liked" a tweet from a porn account on of all days, yesterday. *shrug*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Can someone explain this Cruz thing? I'm not sure how to google this without stumbling on something traumatizing...
    It was the kid who runs his account. But it was great. I'm told the actual video is even more amazing than just the thumbnail.


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    Bad Cruz! Bad!!!!!!!

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    That's... Not something that makes it "better" though. Hey politicians, run your own Twitter accounts. Stop handing the keys to your personal profile to some dumb teen. It'd be better if he himself had been caught looking at "cheating porn." The fact that you were so irresponsible with who you gave that duty to, rather than just handling it yourself...

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    dude, every politician has people running their social media.
    Cruz posts via the iOS app and its usually his staffers (or whatever they are called) that post via TweetDeck. That fact actually made it super suspicious that a staffer would be watching porn... but it seems the staffers were also using iOS. Seems some dude named Josh was the porn watcher. We dug pretty heavily into the API for any hints of Cruz being the one who did it though

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    dude, every politician has people running their social media.
    I know, so maybe this is a "learning moment."
    Don't hire someone to be you for you.

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    Trump 2017: Year Zero

    Heeeell no. Who are you going to blame when human mistakes are inevitably made and it's just you? Social media is just PR anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    That's... Not something that makes it "better" though. Hey politicians, run your own Twitter accounts. Stop handing the keys to your personal profile to some dumb teen. It'd be better if he himself had been caught looking at "cheating porn." The fact that you were so irresponsible with who you gave that duty to, rather than just handling it yourself...
    You can't be serious. Right? Please read the most famous Twitter account in the political world - the one actually written by the guy in the tiny little picture. That should be all the evidence you need that politicians should NOT be tweeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    You can't be serious. Right? Please read the most famous Twitter account in the political world - the one actually written by the guy in the tiny little picture. That should be all the evidence you need that politicians should NOT be tweeting.
    I don't know... that guy got elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    dude, every politician has people running their social media.
    Cruz posts via the iOS app and its usually his staffers (or whatever they are called) that post via TweetDeck. That fact actually made it super suspicious that a staffer would be watching porn... but it seems the staffers were also using iOS. Seems some dude named Josh was the porn watcher. We dug pretty heavily into the API for any hints of Cruz being the one who did it though
    We?

    It makes me a little sad when I hear that a lot of these public figures don't do anything with their social media, just handing it off to, as was said, some kid. Yesterday, Cecile Richards liked my comment on her Instagram probably not. Welp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dra508 View Post
    We?

    It makes me a little sad when I hear that a lot of these public figures don't do anything with their social media, just handing it off to, as was said, some kid. Yesterday, Cecile Richards liked my comment on her Instagram probably not. Welp.
    Ya. I get involved in this stuff when I have time. There are a few very small groups who have been responsible for discovering lots info that turns into news. It's like a NIN ARG but easier and it has real life impact

    Most of the people, like Cruz, have shared control. You can usually tell when multiple apps are making the posts. Or in Trumps case when he sounded sane, it was his PR people making the post.

    Lots of the social media stuff is programmable too. No staff needed. You can automatically post certain content. Sometimes it's automated when an author posts a new blog update, for instance. Same with likes and follows. You can program conditions for them to occur. It's a great way to get a shitload of followers too. Ex: find someone who has a ton of followers you probably want as well. Program the app to follow 100 of them each day. You'll end up getting a certain percentage following you back. Then after X days you automatically unfollow people.

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    Mark Cuban does his own tweeting? Investigated?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    dude, every politician has people running their social media.
    Cruz posts via the iOS app and its usually his staffers (or whatever they are called) that post via TweetDeck. That fact actually made it super suspicious that a staffer would be watching porn... but it seems the staffers were also using iOS. Seems some dude named Josh was the porn watcher. We dug pretty heavily into the API for any hints of Cruz being the one who did it though
    This post *seems* completely full of shit.

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    Just a suggestion, maybe we should just embrace the echo chambers?

    I mean, I have an ad-blocker on my computer, can I just install a right-wing-horseshit blocker too? Have this crap filtered out so I don't have to read it, or deal with it.

    A lot of these right-wing people are just trolls looking for a reaction. If we had a right-wing-horseshit blocker that people could install on their computers, and the computers of their technologically, factually challenged racist grandparents, that might help solve the problem.

    I mean, I know I can unfollow people on my facebook, but some of these people are those who I interact with socially in real life, and as long as we don't talk politics everything is fine, and in real life they're much less trolly when it comes up in real life, less likely to accuse someone of being a "liberal snowflake" and more likely to try and engage in respectful debate, which they usually can't do because all they know how to do when it comes to politics is troll.

    And I'd actually like to see the posts of them out doing fun stuff with their families and friends, I just hate the right-wing lies that they believe and propagate on their feeds. If I had a horse-shit blocker, I could still follow these people on social media, and not have to be exposed to the lies and stupidity that they're spreading.

    Can someone invent a right-wing blocker? I would install that in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    Lots of the social media stuff is programmable too. No staff needed. You can automatically post certain content. Sometimes it's automated when an author posts a new blog update, for instance. Same with likes and follows. You can program conditions for them to occur. It's a great way to get a shitload of followers too. Ex: find someone who has a ton of followers you probably want as well. Program the app to follow 100 of them each day. You'll end up getting a certain percentage following you back. Then after X days you automatically unfollow people.
    Hence all the bot posts in the comments threads? People are getting smarter on Instagram and Twitter, now. "BOT BLOCKED!"

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    I guess Schumer was caught on a hot mic saying "he likes us".

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    I guess Schumer was caught on a hot mic saying "he likes us".
    Yup, and it's AWESOME that this is happening, loving all this deal-making between Trump and the Dems, actually GETTING THINGS DONE vs. all that in-fighting over on the Repub side.

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/schu...kes-me-anyway/

    “He likes us! He likes me, anyway,” said Schumer. “Here’s what I told him. I said, Mr. President, you’re much better off if you can sometimes step right, and sometimes step left. If you have to step just in one direction, you’re boxed. He gets that.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Hence all the bot posts in the comments threads? People are getting smarter on Instagram and Twitter, now. "BOT BLOCKED!"
    The bots are a different layer added on top of that. It certainly uses the same per-account controls. But procuring a few thousand accounts and then controlling them all without getting flagged by twitter requires some hurdles. It's not too hard though.

    You might be interested in reading something joe cox posted yesterday about how he bought 1000 twitter bots for under $100 and played with them: http://www.thedailybeast.com/i-bough...nder-dollar100

    I have used that source for buying a nice bucket of other accounts (not for bot purposes). It's great having high quality disposable accounts for keeping stealth

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    Oh, and I'm reading Hillary Clinton's "What Happened."

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post

    Can someone invent a right-wing blocker? I would install that in a heartbeat.
    This is dumb. Just learn to self-filter. The majority of the fake shit doesnt even leave the existing bubbles anyway. They are designed to play off this divide and make it stronger. Guess what happens when you "embrace" the bubble?

    And those blockers absolutely exist already. I'm not linking because its dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Oh, and I'm reading Hillary Clinton's "What Happened."
    im waiting to find a copy. im not paying for that shit.

    I am enjoying the twitter pull-quotes though.
    Hillary comparing herself to Cersi Lannister... jesus christ. https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/...me-of-thrones/
    Hillary thinking Orwell's 1984 was about how we should be trusting leaders, experts, and the media. https://twitter.com/JamesHeartfield/...52206627213312

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    Hillary thinking Orwell's 1984 was about how we should be trusting leaders, experts, and the media. https://twitter.com/JamesHeartfield/...52206627213312
    I dunno, that isn't the way I read it:



    I think that's just a fairly common and redirected interpretation of Newspeak and the thought police.

    Clinton is no dummy, she's really smart. Criticism of the above stuff is just nitpicking.
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    wait, so "Crying Chuck Schumer" thinks he's got the president's ear and respect? Does he have Stockholm syndrome?

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