Trump 2017: Year Zero

[Louie_Cypher]

what if Bannon is the leaker? wouldn't put it past this cabinet
-Louie

[theimage13]

Been working insane hours and haven't caught much of the news. Can someone tell me what the fuck is happening with health care? Something something "skinny" something or other?

[allegro]

Been working insane hours and haven't caught much of the news. Can someone tell me what the fuck is happening with health care? Something something "skinny" something or other?

Even most Republicans are on TV saying they have not SEEN said "skinny" bill.

Andrea Mitchell says:

[allegro]

I will continue to think Sanders would have destroyed Trump based on the poll, stats and post-election coverage that is out there.

Sanders was NOT going to draw minorities and he was not going to get those Rust Belt voters who voted based on issues that are totally in opposition to Sanders' platform and are hardcore Republicans. (Note that CLINTON didn't draw minorities, either!) There is really no such thing as a true "Independent" in this country when they're just choosing either Democrat or Republican. And Polls obviously proved to be TOTALLY faulty, we discussed this about 100 pages ago for several pages in this thread. Nobody expected Trump to win, not polls, not experts, hardly anyone, not even REPUBLICANS. Thinking if you sic a different left-wing dog on Trump it'd be different is still being blind to why Trump won. That's just not how it works.

Statistics show that -- with the exception of Nixon, which is complicated -- if you've run for President once and you lost, you aren't gonna win the second or third time you run. Stick a fork in it, you're done.

Biden has run for President and lost TWO TIMES already, and he's already said he's not running ever again. HILLARY CLINTON should not have run a 2nd time.

You also selectively left out some of what I said to make your point.

I did no such thing, I am simply not inclined to make point-by-point responses to your entire quote. Most of the time, I'm posting from a fucking iPhone. Do you know how hard it is to edit BBCODE on an iPhone?

I agree that we're basically on the same side, but we disagree in regurgitating the last election and how a guy who didn't even manage to win the Primary (don't give me that fraud shit, I'll provide a dissertation with citations as to how it's bullshit, like Trump's "Voter Fraud" lost him the popular election is a bunch of shit), so how would he totally galvanize all Democrats and some alleged Independents to get out there and out-vote the Republicans even in the states that are gerrymandered within an inch of their lives? Especially after the VRA was gutted and the Feds no longer protect jurisdictions with minorities?

U.S. Republican, this is what I mean. It's for real.

Look, I *love* Bernie Sanders, I loved him four fucking years ago when nobody knew who the fuck Bernie Sanders was. But, it is what it is.

[Aladdinsanity]

[theimage13]

I hate that I can't readily tell reality from satire without having to do research.

[allegro]

I hate that I can't readily tell reality from satire without having to do research.

Yeah, research now is pretty much required.

[allegro]

Trump says FBI Director reports to President.

NO HE DOESN'T, YOU MORON.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ent/495094001/

[allegro]

This Mooch stuff is so full of crazy win: http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ll-be-asked-to

"I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own cock. I'm not trying to build my own brand off the fucking strength of the President. I’m here to serve the country.”

[GulDukat]

This Mooch stuff is so full of crazy win: http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ll-be-asked-to

"I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own cock. I'm not trying to build my own brand off the fucking strength of the President. I’m here to serve the country.”

And the Christian right is still okay with all of this?

[implanted_microchip]

The Onion included a Joe Pesci quote from Casino in an article about that guy's quotes and at first I thought he was just the kind of guy that actually speaks in Pesci quotes for a minute

[Jinsai]

I hate that I can't readily tell reality from satire without having to do research.

Yeah, I actually had to look that one up... so, just so you know, it's not real.

[Louie_Cypher]

This Mooch stuff is so full of crazy win: http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ll-be-asked-to

"I’m not Steve Bannon, I’m not trying to suck my own cock. I'm not trying to build my own brand off the fucking strength of the President. I’m here to serve the country.”

so when a president that laundered money and who knows what else for mother Russia, turn the white into a reality T.V. show or General hospital you can pick, just imagine if he wasn't trying to make America great again?
-Louie

[bobbie solo]

Look, I *love* Bernie Sanders, I loved him four fucking years ago when nobody knew who the fuck Bernie Sanders was. But, it is what it is.

I don't want to go point by point to you either. I'm not trying to go at it with you, and it doesn't appear you are with me either. All I wanted to say about polling from the election is that the last polls leading up to election day has Trump within the margin of error, and thats exactly what happened. Polls that had Bernie going against Trump (taken before the election) had him winning by 10, 12 even 15 percentage point. I stick by my POV that he would have trounced Trump. The scandal, negativity etc fatigure ended up dragging Hillary down juuuust enough to lose those important states (and her lack of effort/campaigning in them). Bernie would have had no such baggage, and I'm sure his campaigning schedule would have been smarter.

[Jinsai]

well, I think wherever we stand now on Bernie or Hillary, it's clear that the DNC could have easily found SOMEONE who could have knocked this out of the park. Somehow, they didn't... OK, well, I hope they learned something.

Because anyone should have obliterated Donald fucking Trump. What I'm hoping they DID NOT "learn" is some kind of game strategy that goes along the lines of "well, apparently this country is still too backwards to get behind a female candidate."

[Sarah K]

I wish that there was a livestream of Trump's reaction when he realized McCain flew back to kill the healthcare repeal.

[Deepvoid]

This New Yorker story on Scaramucci is hilarious! I think he forgot he was on the record.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...ll-be-asked-to

"I'm not Steve Bannon, I'm not trying to suck my own cock".

Called Priebus a fucking paranoid schizophrenic.

He just went off the rail.

[Deepvoid]

Sorry for the double post but GOP senators gasping at McCain's NO vote is so satisfying.

[Swykk]

I wish that there was a livestream of Trump's reaction when he realized McCain flew back to kill the healthcare repeal.

This is among the top times I have been glad to know I was wrong.

[theimage13]

Re: Sanders.

I believe, for a number of reasons, he would have beaten Trump in the general in 2016. But that's a dead horse that doesn't need to be beaten any more than it already has.

2020? I'm sorry, I don't see it happening. Age really will be a factor for a lot of people, regardless of whether it is or isn't for you. I lost both of my grandfathers around the age he'd be come election time, and they were both people who were in good health with relatively stress-free retirement years. So when I compare that to someone who would be taking on what is arguably the most stressful job in the world, I do worry that I wouldn't be electing a president to a four year term. I guess what it might come down to for me is who his running mate is. I do not look his age as a detriment to his mental capacity or ability to lead; he's proven time and time again that he's still sharp as a tack and full of great ideas to help get this country back in line with the civilized world. But I'm realistic about the rigors of the job and what they do to someone 20-30 years younger than him. And while I'm sure many people would look at this with the same caution that I do, others would outright say "he's too old" and vote for someone else.

In other words, I don't see him even getting the nomination should he run again for 2020. IF he did, I think he'd have a very good shot at #46 (or #47, should someone finally shoot himself in the foot by then....). I just don't see the country nominating someone of his age in such a high-stakes year.

I kind of wish timelines had been turned - can you imagine eight years of Sanders from '08-'16, then an even more politically experienced Obama running to take his place?

[Kodiak33]

I'm flabbergasted.

Pretty sure this is quoting Trump saying this about the cops...not that the White House twitter was saying this about Trump.

[Kodiak33]

Yeah, I actually had to look that one up... so, just so you know, it's not real.

Haha I did the same thing...

[Louie_Cypher]

I posted this before but great book https://www.amazon.com/Insane-Clown-.../dp/0399592466 tries a little HST but I let that pass. Bernie, because, in my belief he was going to go after the real people behind the power banks military contractors, and the DNC was worried it would lose the one thing that really matters doners, so vote republican, democrat, doesn't really matter.
sorry to be such a dower on a Friday, heavy personal shit going on
-Louie

[allegro]

I posted this before but great book https://www.amazon.com/Insane-Clown-.../dp/0399592466 tries a little HST but I let that pass. Bernie, because, in my belief he was going to go after the real people behind the power banks military contractors, and the DNC was worried it would lose the one thing that really matters doners, so vote republican, democrat, doesn't really matter.

So is this book basically a collection of Taibbi's Rolling Stone articles?

[implanted_microchip]

I can't believe it's the middle of 2017, we have an aggressive Congress trying desperately to take healthcare away from millions of people and many of them are up for reelection in the next year and yet we're still relitigating the 2016 election

[Deepvoid]

So Trump just tweeted this.

"If Republicans are going to pass great future legislation in the Senate, they must immediately go to a 51 vote majority, not senseless 60..."
"...Even though parts of healthcare could pass at 51, some really good things need 60. So many great future bills & budgets need 60 votes...."

I don't know if it's my reading comprehension skills or if it's because we're Friday but does that make any sense?

[allegate]

The SCOTUS is in recess until, like, October.


I am LOVING the Mooch!! This guy is like some Italian lawyers I worked with, drinking martinis after work and saying FUCK every other word, except the Mooch is worth $85 million and was a liberal and had to go delete his anti-Trump tweets when he got this gig. MSNBC just accidentally showed a Mooch comment from today that had FUCK in it and Chris Matthews had to apologize.

If the Mooch can get rid of Priebus and Bannon, that would be AWESOME!!!

That part was missing from the articles I read. Thanks!

[Louie_Cypher]

pretty much yes tries a little too hard to imitate hunter but but trying imitate one of the great political contaminators of our time
hard to blame
-Louie

[Jinsai]

So Trump just tweeted this.

"If Republicans are going to pass great future legislation in the Senate, they must immediately go to a 51 vote majority, not senseless 60..."
"...Even though parts of healthcare could pass at 51, some really good things need 60. So many great future bills & budgets need 60 votes...."

I don't know if it's my reading comprehension skills or if it's because we're Friday but does that make any sense?

I think it basically means "MOM! When I say I want a goddamn pony, it means I get a goddamn fucking pony! Not whatever this is... bring it back to the store, and don't you dare come home without the fucking pony, you bitch!"

[onthewall2983]