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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealNs1 View Post
    maybe TR will be so mad that he couldn't sell out Sunday FYF single day tix, he'll rage out on us. One can only hope....
    I'd go see NIN and I would like to see Atticus with the band, but I fucking hate festival shows, if it was NIN at the Hollywood Bowl I'd definitely be there and Bjork is playing FYF on another night, I just hate festival shows. I have seen NIN over ten times and I am sure at some point they will tour so I can hold out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kleiner352 View Post
    The thought of anything involving NIN live becoming like Tool scares the shit out of me on principle alone
    So basically the NIN/Soundgarden tour, with $500 presale tix.

    I'd go see NIN and I would like to see Atticus with the band, but I fucking hate festival shows, if it was NIN at the Hollywood Bowl I'd definitely be there and Bjork is playing FYF on another night, I just hate festival shows. I have seen NIN over ten times and I am sure at some point they will tour so I can hold out.
    This will actually be my first NIN festival show. I'll probably hate it less because the FYF venue is fucking amazing. And hey, NIN is NIN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    I'll jump on that.
    I think it would be really cool to hear Leaving Hope, Zero Sum, and then also Branches/Bones and The Idea of You. The last two will almost certainly be played; some cuts from still wouldn't surprise me considering the artwork from NTAE, and a live Zero Sum would be a fresh take on YZ
    What i'd give to see Leaving Hope live!

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    Meathead ruined that song for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealNs1 View Post
    So basically the NIN/Soundgarden tour, with $500 presale tix.
    UGh. That tour pissed me off. I wish they would have had GA on the floor during that tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealNs1 View Post
    . I'll probably hate it less because the FYF venue is fucking amazing.
    Whats the deal with the FYF grounds layout? It's still in a park and stuff, correct?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Whats the deal with the FYF grounds layout? It's still in a park and stuff, correct?...

    ah good point, I haven't been to that venue since the Sports Arena was still a thing.

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    Anyone think any of the "unreleased" Fragile Deviations instrumental cuts will be played live at any of these shows?

    I'm personally hoping for "Was it Worth it"

    Would be cool if one of the ones with lyrics taken out were played with the lyrics in place. But that's probably asking for WAY too much.
    Last edited by ManBurning; 05-18-2017 at 03:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBurning View Post
    Anyone think any of the "unreleased" Fragile Deviations instrumental cuts will be played live at any of these shows?

    I'm personally hoping for "Was it Worth it"

    Would be cool if one of the ones with lyrics taken out were played with the lyrics in place. But that's probably asking for WAY too much.
    As much as i'd love to hear a version of Was it worth it, i think those songs are extra deep cuts just for the die hards. Maybe they'd get a run out or used in an interlude on a NIN tour, but probably not a festival date.

    I have been known to be wrong mind you

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    So since Pemberton was outright cancelled this year, anyone think it's likely they were in talks to play and didn't due to it being unreliable? I'm still just so puzzled at these extremely sparse dates with so much room in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kleiner352 View Post
    So since Pemberton was outright cancelled this year, anyone think it's likely they were in talks to play and didn't due to it being unreliable? I'm still just so puzzled at these extremely sparse dates with so much room in between.
    Maybe, maybe not. Pemberton already realeased the headliners in Muse, Chance, and ATCQ. I don't think NIN is in a position these days to be a top billed, must have act unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. Pemberton already realeased the headliners in Muse, Chance, and ATCQ. I don't think NIN is in a position these days to be a top billed, must have act unfortunately.
    uh...they're headlining riot fest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    uh...they're headlining riot fest?
    I meant more the lines of Coachella, Lolla, etc. The big ones. There seems to be a music festival in every city now, saturating the market a bit.

    Eh, who knows. I'm sort of/kind of going off the last arena tour (Tension) which seemed like a mixed bag regarding ticket sales. NIN is also the only ticket left for FYF, the other single nights sold out.

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    To be fair, Outside of Closer and Hurt not many people really know NIN enough to go see at a headline festival slot. Trent has a very dedicated following but not a real mainstream reach like many of the headliners out there now, most of whom have headlined almost every other year around the world. That's not a dig, but i suspect many regular festival fans probably see NIN as a bit of an unknown?

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    The guy has purposefully avoided having NIN become too mainstream for ages now since the release of Broken forward. I'd argue NIN has existed pretty delicately in between the spaces of being too niche or too common and it's allowed Trent to get away with just about anything -- pop hooks aren't forbidden but neither are out there experiments into noise. I can't imagine that he was sitting there making songs like Burning Bright and then complaining that they're not popular enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    Maybe, maybe not. Pemberton already realeased the headliners in Muse, Chance, and ATCQ. I don't think NIN is in a position these days to be a top billed, must have act unfortunately.
    They headlined the festival twice before. 2008 and 2014...


    And to the person that asked, Yes, I do believe NIN was approached and even billed at one point, but dropped out. That was the word on the street anyway. Some guy on reddit that was making very, very accurate up to the minute predictions said they were on and bailed, which caused a delay.

    All in all though, I'm glad they bailed. If they were announced, I would have dropped a bunch of money on hotel/travel/tickets to the festival and would be in hot water now trying to get my refund. I feel bad for everyone that got suckered into that, especially after the weak lineup dropped. People were still in denial that the the festival was on it's last legs.

    Tons of festivals in Canada took a year off this year. Rock the Shores in Victoria, Heavy Montreal in Montreal. They knew this year was a bad year based on various things (low Canadian dollar, not enough talent available touring etc), but Pemberton decided to go against the grain and try and continue the show.

    They ultimately shot themselves in the foot. I mean, they could have cut it down to a 2 or even 3 day festival instead of a 4 day one. They were way too in over their heads. Their estimated operating costs for the 4 day show was 22 million and they only racked in 8 million to date on ticket sales.

    To be fair though, based on the statistics provided from the bankruptcy firm, the year NIN headlined (2014), they only sold 17,000 tickets per day and made an estimated 5 million. 2014 was the weakest year since the festival got revived from the dead in 2008 under promoters Live nation.

    Their final year (last year) they sold 38,000 tickets per day and only made 15 mil. They had never made money in the 3 years they returned. And personally, year 2 and 3 were sub-par. For my tastes anyway. Looking back at the 2016 lineup, it's not as bad as I originally thought, but that's comparing it to the 2017 one, lol.

    2014 was amazing. They pulled out all the stops for the first year back, yet it flopped? It was 3 days back then. NIN, Deadmau5 and Outkast were the headliners. I guess NIN can't pull in a festival audience after all? I read what someone wrote in this thread many, many pages ago when it was being speculated which festivals NIN might be at, and Lolla came up. Someone said that NIN's lolla preformance was very lackluster attendance wise, and therefore wouldn't be back. I was there at the show myself, I can't vouch on whether it was poor attendance, as I was pretty close up and too busy watching the show to look behind and see how many people were there.

    I do know one thing, at Pemberton 2014, THAT was a deserted crowd. We left our campsite maybe 35-40 mins before NIN were set to go on stage, and we're able to still get front row against the gate. Almost any show/stage that festival you could get up front at any point you wanted.

    Maybe they were on the bill and someone in the NIN camp warned them about their financial situation and they pulled out of it? Who knows. You could tell something was up with that festival this year anyway. The way they were beating around the bush with releasing their lineup and how their social media was ran. It got to the point where I was questioning whether I even wanted to attend or not if NIN was on the bill.

    It's just sad that BC has lost yet another music festival. Traveling for shows gets expensive after a while. We always seem to the get the shaft unless it's a multi-platinum selling worldwide name like U2 or Katy Perry or Lady Gaga. That seems to be the only trash that can sell out shows in Vancouver there days. Quite sad actually.

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    One of the reasons I'm still holding out a bit of hope for proper dates is the fact that qotsa haven't announced proper US dates yet for August/September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somewhat_ View Post
    One of the reasons I'm still holding out a bit of hope for proper dates is the fact that qotsa haven't announced proper US dates yet for August/September.
    A co-headliner would kind of be a bummer. :/ Not much a fan of QOTSA to boot.

    Good point though, kind of makes sense for both bands. I recall reading something on here about their co-headliner Aussie tour being a financial success.

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    I hope these festivals get streamed. I know Riot Fest did a stream last year.

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