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    The Doors

    How the hell do they not have their own thread? It was 50 years ago today that they released their self-titled debut. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp5rz03XGFE

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    Really always thought the Doors had a thread, Their first album was a monster. Does anybody have the doors box set Perception?

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    I do like the Doors' music though I think Jim Morrison is an overrated icon. I don't think that movie Oliver Stone did about the band is very good at all. In fact, I think it's one of the worst films ever made. I did read Ray Manzerek's book back in the 1990s which was way more interesting than what Stone did. I really liked what the band did on albums like the first one, Morrison Hotel, and L.A. Woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Your Name Here View Post
    Really always thought the Doors had a thread, Their first album was a monster. Does anybody have the doors box set Perception?
    I have it. Thing is, they released a boxset in 1999, so another one in 2007 seemed kind of pointless. I do like the box better, less flimsy. The bonus songs/videos on the DVDs could have been better. Why not include an entire show if you are throwing in a DVD. Also, it was a mistake not to include the post-Morrison albums, Other Voices and Full Circle. Glad to see that they have since been reissued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    I do like the Doors' music though I think Jim Morrison is an overrated icon. I don't think that movie Oliver Stone did about the band is very good at all. In fact, I think it's one of the worst films ever made. I did read Ray Manzerek's book back in the 1990s which was way more interesting than what Stone did. I really liked what the band did on albums like the first one, Morrison Hotel, and L.A. Woman.
    The movie portrayed Morrison as a caricature. He wasn't jumping on cars, proclaiming to be the Lizard King, acting like some of of messianic prophet, 24/7. He was a dude that was possibly mentally ill, liked to drink, do drugs and put on a show.
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    They are releasing a 50th anniversary edition of their first album, but honestly i don't see the appeal, excluding the "mono-mix" it's a bit "meh".

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    70 bucks is pretty expensive, and the CD that was reissued in 2007 sounds fine. I would like to hear the mono mix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    I have it. Thing is, they released a boxset in 1999, so another one in 2007 seemed kind of pointless. I do like the box better, less flimsy. The bonus songs/videos on the DVDs could have been better. Why not include an entire show if you are throwing in a DVD. Also, it was a mistake not to include the post-Morrison albums, Other Voices and Full Circle. Glad to see that they have since been reissued.
    I want it I have all the releases in the box set but I want the better remasters, you're right they should have included concert footage. As for the Oliver Stone movie, I think Oliver Stone is a brilliant director (I fucking love Wall Street, and Natural Born Killers) but The Doors is not his best work. From casting to the screenplay I think there numerous mistakes made.
    Its been well documented that Morrison was a brilliant lyricst and I totally agree with that statement, I agree that I think Morrison may have had Bipolar depression of coarse they never called it that back then and it would have been hard to spot among the alcohol and drug use. Generally talented artistic people tend to be flawed in some other area, a lot of artistic people tend to suffer from depression its not a hard and fast rule but tends to prove itself more often then it doesn't.
    You're right, the movie did make Morrison into a caricature, I think it would have made a better biopic if they had focused more on his relationship with the other band members and how the Doors came up. It would have served their legacy much better then the few times he made a grand spectacle of himself.
    Plus it would have helped to have introduced the audience to how the late 60's were, there was never a tour that featured a P.A system until 1969 when the Rolling Stones used one on that tour. Back then bands and artists use to put out an album two times a year because they weren't on the road for a year and a half. I think people also don't realize how stripped down a concert was back then, it was a stage some amplifiers and a couple of lights. Look at the footage from The Song Remains The Same that was filmed at Madison Square Gardens in 1973 that stage was bare bones and Zeppelin were selling out arenas. I still love the Zeppelin footage bare bones and all.
    They also didn't really show how conservative the older generations of the late 60's were. The older generations of that time thought all long hairs were drug addicted satanists thanks to Charlie Manson, there was a culture war going on at the time. To an extent Morrison I think unwittingly led that war more unknowingly then say Bob Dylan or The Stones. When younger generations watch that movie now a lot of that is missed because it wasn't explained well in the movie.

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    I don't think I've ever seen another band's legacy get milked to high-hell like a dairy cow the way the Doors legacy has.

    Granted, I'm in the wide margin that views them as a brilliant band for their time. Their catalogue with Morrison is undeniably classic.

    But the way the other three have handled the band's legacy after his death has been absolutely cartoonish. Seriously, how many third-generation live bootlegs of Morrison bellowing and raving does even the most ardent fan need? I remember when they re-re-re-re-re-released the LA Woman album a few years back with "extra studio chatter" between songs or something, thinking to myself "who the fuck do they think wants to hear this stuff?"

    Ffs, they were even touring behind the brand with the guy from Fuel at one point. Where does it end? How much clearer are we going to hear music that's been around for 40-50 years with a new remaster job every couple of years? The music doesn't have to die and probably never will, but let Morrison rest in peace already..

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYRexall View Post
    I don't think I've ever seen another band's legacy get milked to high-hell like a dairy cow the way the Doors legacy has.

    Granted, I'm in the wide margin that views them as a brilliant band for their time. Their catalogue with Morrison is undeniably classic.

    But the way the other three have handled the band's legacy after his death has been absolutely cartoonish. Seriously, how many third-generation live bootlegs of Morrison bellowing and raving does even the most ardent fan need? I remember when they re-re-re-re-re-released the LA Woman album a few years back with "extra studio chatter" between songs or something, thinking to myself "who the fuck do they think wants to hear this stuff?"

    Ffs, they were even touring behind the brand with the guy from Fuel at one point. Where does it end? How much clearer are we going to hear music that's been around for 40-50 years with a new remaster job every couple of years? The music doesn't have to die and probably never will, but let Morrison rest in peace already..
    Never saw them with the Fuel guy, but I did catch a show with Ian Astbury and it was killer. For fans that never got to see the original band, this was the next best thing. I do agree that they should stop with the re-releasing albums at this point.

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    I've been to Morrison's grave in Père Lachaise; it's positively spooky. There's definitely an "aura" around it that gives it a feeling of mysticism and intrigue. You have thousands of graves in that place, many devoted to notable French writers/artists/actors, etc., and yet there's graffiti everywhere specifically pointing you to Jim's gravesite. There's like a constant group of spectators there at any given time. Tons of memorbilia and momentos and messages adorning the headstone and surrounding area. There's a tree just to the right that's carved to the top with visitor messages. You can think what you want about superstitions and such, but there is an undeniable presence at his spot of rest..

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    And when Jim isn't busy chatting with Hendrix and Nietzsche, he's apparently haunting his own grave.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...grave-20091016

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    ^^^^^^^
    "Greatest hits albums are for housewives and little girls" that's fucking funny. Notice the Lou Reed and Bowie albums in the background in that clip.

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    I got the chance of seeing them live with Ian Astbury and it was awesome!
    then i saw them with the Fuel dude a few years later and it was terrible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    Awesome, I remember that.

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    https://beatnikhiway.files.wordpress...e458.jpg?w=650

    Jim Morrison mural Venice Beach California, that building use to be grey. That mural has been there forever.

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