Not The Actual Events

[Quantum550]

That thread was divided from this thread because the exact same thing happened back then. Read through and you'll know what I mean.

Yes, there was some point it got stuck in CD technical specifications. But now we're talking about a CD release for NTAE. Totally different. Doesn't deem another split.

BYIT did get a CD release

It didn't. https://www.discogs.com/Nine-Inch-Na...me/master/4416

on a far better disc and quality than cd, not the samethat a crappy old awful format, completely not relevant for nin.

This is ridiculous. Far better disc for video, you mean. Blu-Ray is a video-oriented disc. I see no point for 5.1 music.
The Blu-Ray or HD-DVD US version comes with Dolby Digital Stereo and Multichannel (both lossy) and Dolby TrueHD (lossless).
The DVD version comes with Dolby Digital Stereo and Multichannel and DTS.
I've seen Blu-Ray with LPCM 2.0 but once you are in lossless camp, it's lossless. CD is lossless.
This is the line where it could deem a topic split again.

For stereo listeners, BYIT is lossy, which is worse than CD... or a downmix from 5.1, which isn't ideal either.

Not something that the usual listener will ABX from CD. Dolby is quite high bitrate, DTS too.

And still unclear why they reused Still cover, which adds to vagueness. Maybe the answer is there's no answer...

Well, in the digital files, there is this cover. But I think the official one is the white one in vinyl, the one you can smudge it and make it unique.

[neorev]

This is ridiculous. Far better disc for video, you mean. Blu-Ray is a video-oriented disc. I see no point for 5.1 music.
The Blu-Ray or HD-DVD US version comes with Dolby Digital Stereo and Multichannel (both lossy) and Dolby TrueHD (lossless).
The DVD version comes with Dolby Digital Stereo and Multichannel and DTS.
I've seen Blu-Ray with LPCM 2.0 but once you are in lossless camp, it's lossless. CD is lossless.
This is the line where it could deem a topic split again.

I've seen artists release albums on Blu-ray and honestly believe that's the direction the disc format should go in. It doesn't have to be 5.1, there's releases with stereo on Blu-ray. You get superior audio quality since it can hold 24 bit. Underworld remastered and reissued their album Dubnobasswithmyheadman on Blu-ray as well as Nirvana's Nevermind and In Utero. The Blu-ray format has many cool options you don't get with the standard redbook CD. 24 bit audio, the ability to include stereo and surround sound, and the ability to include visuals/art. Plus Blu-ray players are usually hooked up the interweb, so the ability to connect people across the world.

Imagine if the next NIN EP's physical component is a Blu-ray with secret files and folders to explore that expands the world Trent is building around Year Zero and his discography. Having the ability to listen to the EP in 24 bit and including visuals to go along with the experience. Imagine Add Violence manual being turned into a Blu-ray and having the codes lyrics being something on screen with the music. Having the ability to control the machine on the cover and change settings and see what it may unlock. What if your disc gives you special access to an online ARG that also connects you with other fans trying to figure out its secrets.

Utilizing the Blu-ray for a full on immersive experience of audio, and visual and bridging the physical and virtual world is something I've been working on for my own music project. Such amazing potential there is with this format that is being ignored and wasted. Artists need to start thinking outside the box to bring a new, unique, and engaging experience. The physical components are a step in the right direction.

[ninjaw]

This is ridiculous. Far better disc for video, you mean. Blu-Ray is a video-oriented disc. I see no point for 5.1 music.

I didn't mean anything like that, the only thing ridiculous is this sentence. After dvd audio they choose to sell bluray audio, we actually have a trent reznor music on bluray audio.

[Quantum550]

I didn't mean anything like that, the only thing ridiculous is this sentence. After dvd audio they choose to sell bluray audio, we actually have a trent reznor music on bluray audio.

Blu-Ray is a corpse.
It even didn't take over as a proper profitable medium for movies.
Since you watch a movie only once or twice in a lifetime, it doesn't make sense having the physical product.
WEB-DLs smashed Blu-Ray.

CD is still very useful for music archiving though (and playing).

And this is my last opinion on this, gonna stop to bite the bait... back to "Not The Actual Events"!

[ninjaw]

Blu-Ray is a corpse.
It even didn't take over as a proper profitable medium for movies.
Since you watch a movie only once or twice in a lifetime, it doesn't make sense having the physical product.
WEB-DLs smashed Blu-Ray.

CD is still very useful for music archiving though (and playing).

And this is my last opinion on this, gonna stop to bite the bait... back to "Not The Actual Events"!

Your last opinion is one more time completly out of subject... wow

[Quantum550]

Your last opinion is one more time completly out of subject... wow

LOL, I won't reply to this.
Get back to the EP.

So is it coming out only on vinyl?
I just read an interview put up for an external link on NIN.com and it looks like Trent is very stubborn about this...
No hopes...

[ninjaw]

LOL, I won't reply to this.
Get back to the EP.

Please that would be more ridiculous

[neorev]

Blu-Ray is a corpse.
It even didn't take over as a proper profitable medium for movies.
Since you watch a movie only once or twice in a lifetime, it doesn't make sense having the physical product.
WEB-DLs smashed Blu-Ray.

I'm sorry, but you completely lost me here. Why is it that there's so many Blu-ray Disc and Blu-ray Remux copies on torrent sites then? Go read the threads and you will be seeing folks saying "I can't wait for the Blu-ray rip" or "Where's the Blu-ray copy?" Blu-ray took over the medium for movies, especially if you want quality. I'm sorry but a WEB-DL is nowhere near the quality of a Blu-ray disc. Even streaming still has troubles with fully handling darker colors and shades. You will see pixelation on Netflix, Amazon, iTunes streams. WEB-DLs are the MP3 of movies. So please lord, don't ever let this be IT. There's a reason why a Blu-ray disc of a movie is 40-50gbs big on torrent sites versus a WEB-DL being 5gbs. It's convenience over quality. The amount of information and quality being lost is massive. A WEB-DL may look good on your laptop, but it looks like ass on higher quality TVs. I always wait for a BDRip, Remux, or Blu-ray disc before watching a movie. And if you only watch a movie once or twice in your lifetime, then it must be a pretty crap movie.

[BRoswell]

Since you watch a movie only once or twice in a lifetime...

Uh, I can't speak for anyone else, but I've watched a lot of my Blu-rays more than once or twice in this year alone. Web/streaming versions also tend to be compressed more than Blu-ray versions to save file space.