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    No? Nobody wants to touch the Citizens United situation? Apple *did* hire Ted Olson (the lawyer who won Citizens United) to represent them in the FBI situation...

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    NSA Is Mysteriously Absent From FBI-Apple Fight
    https://theintercept.com/2016/03/03/...i-apple-fight/

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    This is the greatest bit of complete stupidity. This rivals the "series of tubes" comment from years back.

    San Bernardino DA says seized iPhone may hold “dormant cyber pathogen”
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...yber-pathogen/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    This is the greatest bit of complete stupidity. This rivals the "series of tubes" comment from years back.

    San Bernardino DA says seized iPhone may hold “dormant cyber pathogen”
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...yber-pathogen/
    LOL. And that's after the police chief told NPR that there was probably nothing on the phone. In addition, Apple won their court case over the phone of a drug dealer in NYC.
    Last edited by cynicmuse; 03-05-2016 at 08:36 PM. Reason: grammar

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    Snowden has weighed in, saying that the FBI's claim that they cannot hack into the phone is complete bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Snowden has weighed in, saying that the FBI's claim that they cannot hack into the phone is complete bullshit
    He's had quite a lot to say about the topic.
    He mentions hardware attacks in this statement, and there are a few that can be used in this specific situation. It's doubtful that the FBI has the skills to actually do it though. They could certainly pay someone else or have a more skilled org like the NSA do it. But the FBI's claim that ONLY Apple is capable of this is certainly bullshit and is an important distinction.

    I'm really looking forward to the next iPhone though. Apple has already signaled that they will be doing things to further remove their ability to get into your phone. I not only want to see what that will be, but I want to see if they end up marketing that. It will be SO FUCKING COOL to see security and privacy (even against our own govt) become such an important thing that it gets elevated to Apple commercial level. Apple's iconic 1984 commercial could really use a 2nd remake...

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    And if you didn't pick up on Snowden plugging the app "Signal", do take note. It really is an excellent app that secures your text messages and phone calls. It's dead simple to use too, my parents even managed to instantly start using it without any instruction. The only thing missing is a desktop client, which they currently have in beta.

    get it!
    apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sign...er/id874139669
    android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...rime.securesms


    interesting bit of info: Snowden has been a proponent of Signal for quite some time and was talking about how much he uses it before the Andriod version came out... which means Snowden has an iPhone. (don't read too much into it, it's just a fun fact)

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    Obama weighs in while speaking at SXSW...

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/12/us...echnology.html

    If, technologically, it is possible to make an impenetrable device or system, where the encryption is so strong that there is no key, there is no door at all, then how do we apprehend the child pornographer?
    Fucking.... really!?


    If the government has no way into a smartphone, he added, “then everyone is walking around with a Swiss bank account in your pocket.”
    yeah, that should only be something rich people should have access to! /s
    It sounds like a great idea, actually. thanks obama!

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    John Oliver does a great segment on crypto and the FBI v Apple topic. However, there is one *extremely* dangerous portion... Do NOT use Telegram for privacy. It's weak and backdoored. Use Signal instead.

    It's unfortunate that so many more people are choosing such a bad "privacy" app.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Snowden has weighed in, saying that the FBI's claim that they cannot hack into the phone is complete bullshit
    Oh look, Snowden was right!
    FBI just canceled the hearing. Turns out Apple didn't hold the "exclusive ability to access the phone" as the FBI was claiming.



    Too bad... I would have loved to get a ruling on the books so the FBI couldn't attempt this again in the future.

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    A month after the FBI testified under oath that they can't get into the phone without Apple.... Thy got into the phone without Apple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archive_Reports View Post
    Shouldn't be surprising. Once law enforcement has a tool, why would they withhold it from other cases?

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    The "only one phone" thing was only something the FBI was claiming for the situation in which Apple would be forced to build the backdoor. Even that was obvious bullshit, but they never claimed 3rd party methods were as limited. They have used a lot of 3rd party tools in many situations.

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