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    1 male and 1 female dead both wearing "assault style" clothing whatever that means. Potential explosive device found at the scene of the SUV.

    FBI is saying there's a 3rd suspect.
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    3rd "possible" suspect was detained.

    FBI not ruling out terrorism yet.

    Trying to determine if more people, possibly dozens, involved in planning.

    At least one active bomb found in building, bomb squad still in building.
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    It IS terrorism no matter what fucking color these assholes are.

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    FBI SWAT teams have surrounded the apt. in Redlands where the SUV went immediately following the attack (but were found and then were pursued). Another 3rd person now being pursued, potentially in that house. Robot sent in.

    Authorities think at least one of the shooters was at the Dept of Public Health party, there was some kind of altercation, that person left and then returned with additional people wearing all black, masks, carrying AR-15s and pistols and bombs, etc.

    Police spokesperson said shooters in SUV were throwing multiple IEDs out of car at cops plus shooting at cops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    Not possible, CA has some of the best gun control in the country!
    One thing that amuses me, or irritates me I don't really know, is how you are consistently outraged by how gun control proponents are "climbing on the piles of fresh bloody victims to further their agenda", yet every time such thing occurs it's you I see yelling from the top of the corpse hill...

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    Newer reports are saying whatever the shooters were throwing at cops from the SUV (besides shooting at the cops), they were not throwing pipe bombs but "something else." Wtf.
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    So was this a terrorist attack? The Killer is Muslim..not White American... how does this change things.
    There are loads of mass shootings in the U.S..this was done by a muslim...not a white american....what does this mean???
    It also a big shooting for the U.S...14 dead 16 injured.
    Biggest since Sandy Hook....
    Had this happened in Europe it would be different...this shit rarely happens...but because its the U.S will this have a different impact.

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    If by "have a different impact", you mean "have no impact at all".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah K View Post
    If by "have a different impact", you mean "have no impact at all".
    Of course it matters that they were Muslims. It's giving ammo to right wing pundits.

    Erik Erikson this morning: "They [left-wing] peddle made up statistics on violent Christians and angry Republican. They refuse to acknowledge actual enemies to their freedom [...]. When the shooters turn out to be gay or Muslim or an environmentalist, the media sweeps it under the rug. So I guess we will spend a week talking about Islamophobia now."

    TheRightScoop is blaming political correctness saying that a neighbor thought the suspects had been acting suspicious lately but refused to call the policy in fear of being called a racist.
    Breitbart is saying the same thing "Political correctness may have played a role, as suspicious neighbors declined to report the suspects for fear of “racial profiling.”"

    I mean really?!? The right is gonna start blaming political correctness for shootings?
    I'd rather side with the gun control argument over some stupid bullshit like right is spewing out of their mouth.

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    But I mean the shooting will have no long term impact, as the US is a collectively stupid nation. We'll wait for the next mass shooting today or tomorrow, talk about all of the ways it could have been avoided, and then wait for the next one the day after that.

    The world laughs at the US with very good reason. This it's our unnecessary reality.

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    It's been a while since I've seen Cenk this mad. Skip to 2:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khrz View Post
    One thing that amuses me, or irritates me I don't really know, is how you are consistently outraged by how gun control proponents are "climbing on the piles of fresh bloody victims to further their agenda", yet every time such thing occurs it's you I see yelling from the top of the corpse hill...
    Dude. This was posted in the gun thread before the anyone was even caught. We had politicians (Hillary, Sanders, and others) yapping about the NRA and gun control before anyone was caught. Stupidity like that deserves nothing but the snide response I gave. For everyone doing that, there is no desire for truth--only agenda.

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    Why is it okay to use for your agenda, though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    People who are promoting this are their own problem.
    http://www.npr.org/2015/12/03/458312...-in-gun-debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah K View Post
    Why is it okay to use for your agenda, though?
    Snide
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/snide

    Mocking the agenda of others is a whole lot different than saying "X happened and it's more proof of my existing agenda". In fact, it's cutting down the stupidity of pushing an agenda in that very way.

    It's not ok for anyone to do it, especially without any facts on the table. I in no way intended to do so. My intent was to ONLY make fun of those who were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    People who are promoting this are their own problem.
    http://www.npr.org/2015/12/03/458312...-in-gun-debate
    I'd rather promote this headline than being on the other side of the fence.

    http://www.redstate.com/diary/lifeof...-shaming-know/

    "God can fix it, if we’d only ask him. It’s called prayer. Prayerlessness is what caused this in the first place. Prayerlessness, so valued by the Left, is the poison that caused our sin cancer in America and they think more of the same poison will cure it. We’ve evicted God from our government, from our schools, from the public square, from marriage, and now the Left is trying to evict God from society in even the most stressful situations where prayer and comfort is most needed. Where God is not welcome, sin abounds. The Left expects people who live their lives without God to suddenly have goodwill, self restraint, and moral reasoning from some other source."


    That "God isn't fixing this" headline should be named the headline of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepvoid View Post
    "Prayerlessness, so valued by the Left."
    What in the fuck are they talking about? They seem to think that the "left" are all "communists" even though communism doesn't even really EXIST anywhere, anymore. What a bunch of fucking morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepvoid View Post
    I'd rather promote this headline than being on the other side of the fence.
    The Left expects people who live their lives without God to suddenly have goodwill, self restraint, and moral reasoning from some other source."
    Wow. I had no idea that people actually believed that those traits could ONLY come from religion.

    Goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepvoid View Post
    I'd rather promote this headline than being on the other side of the fence.
    that statement alone is just further playing into the divisive nature of the problem. You can't complain about the collective inaction of a country when you are actively playing into the division of it. I'm still confused about the collective action anyone actually thinks would help, but that's 2 steps ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah K View Post
    Wow. I had no idea that people actually believed that those traits could ONLY come from religion.

    Goodness.
    Unfortunately, that's what the religious right thinks.

    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalChaos View Post
    that statement alone is just further playing into the divisive nature of the problem. You can't complain about the collective inaction of a country when you are actively playing into the division of it. I'm still confused about the collective action anyone actually thinks would help, but that's 2 steps ahead.
    I'm referring you to my original post way back, which basically stated that this problem is beyond repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepvoid View Post
    Unfortunately, that's what the religious right thinks.
    The religious right thinks a LOT OF SHIT.

    We went through this crap in the early-80s, with Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell and the "Moral Majority" and it was just a bunch of shit.

    I mean, really, these people are nuts:

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    The religious right thinks a LOT OF SHIT.

    We went through this crap in the early-80s, with Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell and the "Moral Majority" and it was just a bunch of shit.

    I mean, really, these people are nuts:

    Hitchens laid the smackdown on Falwell a while back.
    I liked Hitchens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepvoid View Post
    Hitchens laid the smackdown on Falwell a while back.
    So did Bill Maher


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    Thought this was a good read.

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    Wow. I had no idea that gun deaths were on par, and likely to surpass automobile deaths.

    That really puts some shit into perspective. Wild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah K View Post
    Wow. I had no idea that gun deaths were on par, and likely to surpass automobile deaths.

    That really puts some shit into perspective. Wild.
    I still don't understand why fucking automobile deaths are still that high. LEARN TO DRIVE, PEOPLE!!!!!

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    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ital-footprin/

    clearly a planned attack.
    they tried to wipe their digital footprints. They also rented the SUV several days before the attack.

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