The Feminist Thread

[Ryan]

Ever since I heard or read somewhere that we're all initially born female then it comes down to chance if our boobs grow or not, or something like that, I've come to terms that we're all male-female hybrids and there is no better or lesser sex.

[Baphomette]

Everyday Feminism is looking for writers. Paid position, for once.

[orestes]

And we wonder why rape is under-reported.

[Timinator]

Australia has laws that compel employers to "pay" a percentage (currently 9.5%, but rising) of each employee's salary into a retirement fund that the employee can't normally access until they need it in old age. It's government-enforced retirement saving, and means Australians have some of the most money saved for their retirement. This scheme is called superannuation, or just super.

There is a flaw in this scheme, however, in that it's tied to payroll earnings. Women - here as in most other places - tend to earn less over their lifetimes for several reasons: because of the gender pay gap, because they have to take time off for childbirth, because they often take paid workplace breaks to rear children, etc. So women end up retiring with much less super saved up than men do.

One Australian employer, though - ANZ Bank - has started to positively discriminate in favour of its women employees, paying them more super so that their retirement funding will end up more balance. Good on them. Check out the handful of comments at the end of the article, though.

[icklekitty]

Doubly super if you don't want to breed!

[Sallos]

Ever since I heard or read somewhere that we're all initially born female then it comes down to chance if our boobs grow or not, or something like that, I've come to terms that we're all male-female hybrids and there is no better or lesser sex.

No, from what i understand we're initially asexual or sex neutral. while the sex of the fetus is determined by the xx/xy chromosome combination, the sex organs start out looking female and then later the penis/testicles develope in the xy (male) fetus. This is different from having the fetus begin as female and then become male.

[playwithfire]

Yeah, I guess it is an old AAVE word.

Oh! I didn't know that.

Someone make a non-appropriative but still mean and funny word that means the same thing as the way most people I know use it, plz.

[eversonpoe]

Oh! I didn't know that.

Someone make a non-appropriative but still mean and funny word that means the same thing as the way most people I know use it, plz.

my wife (who never swears) really likes the term "dicknose" (it's from an episode of it's always sunny). not sure it's quite the right thing, but it's a good catch-all. i also like using "ass-butt" (which is from supernatural) and just makes me laugh every time i hear it.

also, men are pathetic.

[playwithfire]

Those are both mean but not specific enough. But yeah, nope, I'm not gonna use appropriative language when it's avoidable.

[Aladdinsanity]

I'm all for there being a term to describe said dudes being described the past couple pages. There definitely needs to be one since they are a specific kind of asshole that (sadly) isn't really uncommon.

[orestes]

Content warning: It was easier to give in than keep running.

[Swykk]

my wife (who never swears) really likes the term "dicknose" (it's from an episode of it's always sunny). not sure it's quite the right thing, but it's a good catch-all. i also like using "ass-butt" (which is from supernatural) and just makes me laugh every time i hear it.

also, men are pathetic.

Points for "assbutt."

[Ryan]

No, from what i understand we're initially asexual or sex neutral. while the sex of the fetus is determined by the xx/xy chromosome combination, the sex organs start out looking female and then later the penis/testicles develope in the xy (male) fetus. This is different from having the fetus begin as female and then become male.

Damn. I prefer my version.

[eversonpoe]

Content warning: It was easier to give in than keep running.

that was really heavy but a good read. crying a little.

[orestes]

Heh heh heh.

[playwithfire]

YEP.

Content warning for sexual harassment:I'm tired of being kind to creepy men in order to stay safe.

[Lew]

Oh! I didn't know that.

Someone make a non-appropriative but still mean and funny word that means the same thing as the way most people I know use it, plz.

trouser trolls
desperate dicks (dd)
cock deaf
dry dick

dry dick deaf

i like that one best, personally

[elevenism]

Yes, but this is the feminist thread, so we're talking about @orestes ' experience with tattoos while at work, with males coming up to her while she's at work and bugging her at work and actually touching her and invading her personal space, wasting her time while she's on the company clock, etc.

And all of this is disrespectful to her in a number of ways, and all of it pretty much says "I'm not taking the fact that you are working right now very seriously, because I am not respecting you."

That being said, G and I were at a restaurant / bar last Saturday night and we had a cute female waitperson who was obviously very very nervous and she finally admitted, when I tried to help her be a little less nervous, that it was only her third day on the job, and I told her she was doing a great job. It was busy, and there was a jazz trio in front of us, and we ended up joining tables with a couple next to us who were a LOT of fun, and I asked our waitperson about her really cute collar of tattoos, just to kind of break the ice a little, and that worked to some extent, and she told us about them, the older guy next to us asked what her parents thought and she's told us about that, so in HER line of work, as a cocktail / food server, it worked. We were giving her funny advice like when she brought over a shaker of martinis she was just going to pour them ('the bartender already shook this, so ...") and we said, "nooooo, you gotta shake the shaker, too, like Tom Cruise in 'Cocktail', it'll get you more tips!" and the bartender was laughing and giving her Thumbs-up and stuff. So it all depends on the venue, etc., but dudes in retail, noooooooooo.

We each left that gal a HUUUUUUUUUGE tip, btw.

Yes yes yes I see that now @allegro . I just talk too fucking much. And I goddamn sure wasn't trying to be disrespectful to @orestes . But I wish that if you were gonna call me out on something like this that you would quote it so I would see it. Keep in mind, I'm a southern dude and

[elevenism]

Don't let my long hair and liberal views fool you. I'm still a fairly isolated country boy and I'm still learning.

[allegro]

Yes yes yes I see that now @allegro . I just talk too fucking much. And I goddamn sure wasn't trying to be disrespectful to @orestes . But I wish that if you were gonna call me out on something like this that you would quote it so I would see it.

See your posts right before mine.

Edit: EIGHT DAYS AGO. And I posted my response from A PHONE. And it wasn't about you.

[elevenism]

See your posts right before mine.

I see them! And I see what you mean. My poi nt is that I didn't see it for some days. I'm saying do a post quote or mentio so I will notice. What if I hadn't come back to this thread for years and didn't ever realize I was being a tool? Then your words would be wasted

[eversonpoe]

Oh! I didn't know that.

Someone make a non-appropriative but still mean and funny word that means the same thing as the way most people I know use it, plz.

posted this on your FB too, but i wanted to get it in here.

http://jezebel.com/the-definition-of...ces-1725157828

[playwithfire]

Yeah, I did read it and thought it was great, but didn't really form any clear thoughts. Thanks for sharing, though. Basically, I feel like I was using fuckboy correctly but I still don't know if I should be saying it in the first place, so will avoid.

trouser trolls
desperate dicks (dd)
cock deaf
dry dick

dry dick deaf

i like that one best, personally

Good suggestions! But I wouldn't want to use deaf, either. That's a disability metaphor.

[eversonpoe]

Yeah, I did read it and thought it was great, but didn't really form any clear thoughts. Thanks for sharing, though. Basically, I feel like I was using fuckboy correctly but I still don't know if I should be saying it in the first place, so will avoid.

yeah, i agree, but it still made me feel a LITTLE better.

Good suggestions! But I wouldn't want to use deaf, either. That's a disability metaphor.

with you on that. i like trouser trolls and desperate dicks a lot. i mean, as phrases. i don't like those things. :|

[slave2thewage]

Desperate Dicks sounds like gay porn, to be frank. Like, one of those no-budget Czech ones.

[playwithfire]

heh

The best thing I can think of (and it's already a word) is "shitheel" but it just doesn't have the same ring to it.

My favorite GENERAL insult for people is "human garbage*" but that's just too broad.

*because it's super fucking mean and as a bonus is non-appropriative/gendered.

[playwithfire]

[halloween]

That post is appropriate to a conversation I was having with my sister about being in Brazil and their incredibly high standards of female beauty. I wanted to post this at first in the body image thread because it has to do with the fact that I don't shave my arm pits. My mother still thinks it's "unhygienic" for women to have unshaven armpits. I really don't know why she thinks it's ok for men but not for women. I was talking to my sister that it might cost me being able to find a boyfriend here but at this rate I really really don't care. I've already had one man love me and if that's the last boyfriend I have, then so be it. It may just take running into some international hippy types to not give a shit about my body hair...I know there's a Burning Man that happens in Brazil and getting involved with that community is giving me hope that I'll find like minded Brazilians after all. My sister thankfully is the best ever and allows me to be who I am, so if anything, I'll always have her!

[playwithfire]

Haha, so this is weird but my favorite photo of you is actually one where you have blatantly unshaved underarms. So like, do with that what you will.

It may be different not-in-the-US but realizing how little most (worthwhile) people actually care about legs/underarm hair was news to me in college, honestly.

[Baphomette]

My mother still thinks it's "unhygienic" for women to have unshaven armpits.

Hahahaha. Must be a cultural thing. My mom feels the same way. I must have about 20 unopened bottles of Veet and Nair that's she given me over the past couple of years.