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Faceplams: Well now I'm almost sure this will happen at a Sanders or Clinton rally, for "payback".
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Well now I'm almost sure this will happen at a Sanders or Clinton rally, for "payback".
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Seriously? The assclown has been advocating violence against his own protestors. I think it's sweet justice he got shut down by them. Also, free speech doesn't mean free from consequences.
Also, that woman hating bag of shit Matt Forney just called for Trump supporters to start bringing their guns to these rallies. If that doesn't prove that Trump appeals primarily to the lowest common denominator, I don't know what would.
Last edited by Swykk; 03-12-2016 at 06:34 AM.
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Random question, but what is the best book to read on democratic socialism?
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Not allowing people to freely gather in a private place is a consequence you're willing to accept because you don't happen to support/like this candidate?Originally Posted by Swykk
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Can't help but laugh because of the guy holding a "No Room For Hate" sign while another wears a "Fuck The Police" shirt while standing on an American flag.
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Nomination for crazy person of 2016.
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/03/he...te-trump-rally
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Not sure if this is exactly what Sanders is talking about.
http://www.amazon.com/Looking-Forwar.../dp/0896084051
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Bite me
I dunno what this all means or how it will all turn out, but this is a hell of a lot more fun than the Kerry primary.
Illinois has been voting early for a while btw, I voted earlier this week. So I don't know how much this stuff will affect the primary here.
Yeah evidently he has been having people take the "Trump Pledge" and that has morphed into this, which he says he didn't know anything about and would have to address but I think it's way too late for a lot of these wackos who are in for a big surprise.
It clearly said in this thing not to be violent, etc. so things just got out of hand.
Last edited by allegro; 03-12-2016 at 10:31 AM.
Captain Rustleboots
Protesting ANY candidates rally is stupid as fuck and does the opposite of its intent - solidify the views of the supporters.
Anyways it's raining today in STL and there was a bunch of Bernie folks holding signs walking down a major road over here so that was dope.
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It's pretty easy to be dismissive of protestors when you have nothing at stake to lose.
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The ultimate protest is the vote.
Captain Rustleboots
Protesting a political candidate rally does literally nothing. It's not like there's a trump voter that sees people outside screaming racist and thinks to himself "ya know what? They're right, immediately all my political views have changed and I'm now a democrat"
Bite me
History has shown that you're right. Protests against Nixon only solidified Nixon's win.
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This shit. Like, wtf are you going to even accomplish? If you want to just scream preconceived opinions at each other without any hope of change... we have facebook now.
It's also really easy to instigate violence in the types of situations. I guarantee you could get Bernie or Hillary supporters to react violently too. But of course, everyone wants to use this instance as totally-proof-of-some-preconceived-opinion... which brings us right back to the beginning of my post.
Captain Rustleboots
There's a difference between a black lives matter protest and protesting a political rally. That's like me and all my friends going to a lady gaga concert and telling everyone there that her music sucks.
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Those elections, as seen from Europe :
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Drumpf is doing a rally in the heart of downtown KC today, during the final BIG XII Basketball game which is two blocks away. This was originally scheduled to be held at the downtown airport, so once again, I feel like Drumpf is doing this shit on purpose knowing there'll be TONS of college kids downtown, in an area that is already predominantly liberal.
There's already a huge protest planned for the event, and they all plan on trying to rush the building at 5:30. So KC might be on the news tonight as well.
I work a block and a half from the Rally, so I'm definitely going to join the protest when I get off at 5.
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Last edited by Your Name Here; 07-25-2016 at 12:29 PM.
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Yeah, but at the same time being physically aggressive, throwing shit, shoving and hitting people -- that's not free speech. it's a messy situation and everyone's coming at it with the most black or white attitude and it's over-simplifying an event where there really is no clear division between the valiant heroes and the malevolent villains here. It wasn't any narrative. It was just people. People getting in fights. People disagreeing. People not being able to accept each other. People not being able to deal with others being different. And that's everything that's been going on with Trump. He's a beacon that says "You don't have to tolerate anything you dislike." And so he attracts people sick of being tolerant. And in turn people are intolerant of intolerance. It's just a fucking mess.
I feel like the cliche "Why can't we all just get along" person lately. This election has just been going from wildly funny and amusing to just deeply disheartening and upsetting. I don't feel good about where things are going, at all. And if there's a contested convention, and Trump's not nominated, I'm terrified to see the reaction that'd stir up. But I also don't want to see the reaction him being the nominee will have. In general, it's just, ugh. This is really where we're at as a country. I don't feel good about it at all from any perspective.
Also @richardp "Join the protest when I get off at 5" sounds like a lost Doors lyric
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Well, yeah, exactly. The people who are for Trump are being told from all sides, even the GOP, that they are being "stopped," and there is some level of media spin on all this. When Ben Carson backs Trump, obviously there's something else going on.
Captain Rustleboots
So is having a rally.
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I know this kind of shit really just strengthens Trump supporters' resolves. The easiest way to make someone double down on their stance is to attack them for it and call them Nazis and racists. Whether they are or not. Yelling at people for holding up a hand to say they'll vote for the guy in their primary and telling them that makes them a Nazi does not exactly change a lot of minds. It's helping nobody. People are just digging deeper into their trenches.
It's like this Always Sunny quote: "I won't change my mind, 'cause I don't have to. 'Cause I'm an American. I won't change my mind on anything, regardless of the facts that are set out before me. I'm dug in, and I'll never change."
I just feel like people are having a reactionary, knee-jerk attitude about the whole mess and are in turn not accomplishing anything other than encouraging what they're against. The stereotype of Bernie fans and BLM supporters being aggressive, violent and intolerant of others is not being helped by this. At all. And you know and anyone who's read me on this thread knows that I am not, in the slightest, a Trump fan. But good fucking Christ are people doing a good job of making sure more people become them, and making sure those who already are, never change.
Condescending to, insulting and barraging people who support him will not help. The GOP actually trying to, in broad daylight, sabotage the will of their voters is not helping. Rubio's people telling his supporters in Ohio to vote for Kasich? That's just fucking dirty. That's just manipulative. That's just disrespectful to the concept of a democratic election -- the people all vote, and the person they vote the most for wins. And, sometimes, that person is going to be a piece of shit. That's part of the risk. That's on the packaging, it's a label warning everyone seems to fail to read. It's like we're hitting a point where we're only supporting democracy if it suits us, if we like what it leads to.
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I'm sorry, but the only people being aggressive, violent and intolerant at these rallies are Trump's supporters. Black protestors and anyone who isn't a fucking WASP have been verbally and physically assaulted, simply for being present where they "don't belong", in the eyes of Trump supporters.
Captain Rustleboots
Which is why protesting there is a waste of everyone's time.
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Here's a ton of footage, be the judge of your own statement there. You can see plenty of people that are just trying to walk out and getting slapped, confronted and yelled at. Everyone's acting like they have the emotional spectrum of a six year old. Nobody looks good in this, regardless of why they're there.
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Lol, white guilt.
Meanwhile: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watc...n-643012675800
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I don't get why you said that and I don't get why you can't just actually have a conversation instead of saying something like that to me
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The comment was in response to the video, not you.
edit: I just remembered that members of the press have been attacked at Trump rallies, so this simply isn't a case of "stupid" protestors being were they aren't wanted.
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Good article on what could happen at the Rebublican convention this summer.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...#ixzz42hjGGln5
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