after all is said and done - THE FINAL SHOW - Project that remains unfinished

[NotoriousTIMP]

So, we all know that this project is moving almost as fast as TR when it comes to a release date. Sadly, we've lost the pages of posts with the death of ETS 1.0, but I figured we should keep the ball rolling, even if its uphill, and continue to discuss this project here. Here are the video clips that's been released so far:

Original Teaser Trailer:


Somewhat Damaged:


The Frail / The Wretched


Lets hope that this will finally see the light of day at some point....

*edit* damn it, can a mod fix the title for me?

[rhys]

Yeah what ever happened to this project? I remember sending some money via Paypal way back when they started the first round of orders. I've since moved twice and had completely forgotten about it until seeing this thread. Sad really, it would of been an awesome piece of work and a great way to remember NIN.

[MAD]

I really hope this will see the light of day. I was very excited when I was contacted to design some artwork for it, but I'm glad I didn't had the time, seeing how many paid for this and it wasn't released yet.

[NotoriousTIMP]

I bought two copies myself At this point I would be happy with a digital only release......

[Emil Dorbell]

I edit musical performances for a living, and I usually finish a 3 hour long show with three cameras in say... two weeks. Maybe double that to include color correction. I realize there were plenty more angles here and probably a lot more work with color correction because of the different cameras. But it shouldn't take two damn years! What's taking so long?

[sheepdean]

I edit musical performances for a living, and I usually finish a 3 hour long show with three cameras in say... two weeks. Maybe double that to include color correction. I realize there were plenty more angles here and probably a lot more work with color correction because of the different cameras. But it shouldn't take two damn years! What's taking so long?

None of them were using their own equipment to edit, and then a few lost their jobs is the official answer I believe.

[DF118]

If this ever gets released I'll eat my own face.

[NotoriousTIMP]

If this ever gets released I'll eat my own face.

Pictures/Video needs to be posted shortly after

[thetourist]

I hope for another chance to order the physical release.

[sick among the pure]

Pictures/Video needs to be posted shortly after

Multi-cam edit video? Digital download, DVD, and blu-ray options?

[KrakenWakes]

I edit musical performances for a living, and I usually finish a 3 hour long show with three cameras in say... two weeks. Maybe double that to include color correction. I realize there were plenty more angles here and probably a lot more work with color correction because of the different cameras. But it shouldn't take two damn years! What's taking so long?

Not to be an apologist, but they had far more than 3 sources (I think last count was well over 20), in multiple formats, and working in their free time. How come you didn't volunteer to help?

[Emil Dorbell]

Not to be an apologist, but they had far more than 3 sources (I think last count was well over 20), in multiple formats, and working in their free time. How come you didn't volunteer to help?

Like I stated above "I realize there were plenty more angles here and probably a lot more work with color correction because of the different cameras." Shouldn't take two years though. I would have volunteered but they wanted american or even LA based editors, I live in Gothenburg, Sweden.

[jhulud]

I still have the Paypal confirmation email in my inbox as "new"...constant reminder...

[KrakenWakes]

Like I stated above "I realize there were plenty more angles here and probably a lot more work with color correction because of the different cameras." Shouldn't take two years though. I would have volunteered but they wanted american or even LA based editors, I live in Gothenburg, Sweden.

You should fly in for the weekend and finish it then.

[REPLICA]

I still have the Paypal confirmation email in my inbox as "new"...constant reminder...

....I lost my confirmation email....

[Emil Dorbell]

You should fly in for the weekend and finish it then.

I realize I might come off as a douche here, but it's not like they were doing this for free. Where is that money now?

[REPLICA]

I realize I might come off as a douche here, but it's not like they were doing this for free. Where is that money now?

True, they must have taken in a lot of pre-orders... I could have bought some gas with that cash.

[Lisbeth]

I was really looking forward to seeing this project finished since I was unable to go to any of the final shows.

Fuck.

[Ryan]

Damn that looks impressive!

[NotoriousTIMP]

I look at it as my money is gone....lesson learned about doing pre-orders with fan based projects I guess


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[Leviathant]

I came out very strongly against preorders of this particular project. Taking pre-orders, coupled with the initial 'pre-orders get bonus content' rubbed me wrong. Along the years I've reached out several times trying to find out more about the situation and offer advice to help, but each time was rebuffed. I told the guy to come in here and address things directly, and instead he made generic status update tweets.

In fact, I think the title of this thread should change. It leaves one with the impression that the project is actually still coming out. At this point, that money's long gone.

[Lisbeth]

In fact, I think the title of this thread should change. It leaves one with the impression that the project is actually still coming out. At this point, that money's long gone.

How 'bout "after all is said and done - you got duped"

[DVYDRNS]

Really Really glad I turned down the offer to work on this project....

[UninTY]

I emailed his about my change of address, and never heard back.

If I die before this comes out, can someone make sure and bury my blu-ray near my headstone??

[KrakenWakes]

http://atinylittledot.com/team

Is it time to start contacting real people?

[spahn]

those clips look amazing. what a shame that a bunch of irresponsible people took all these peoples money and never delivered a finished product.

[Leviathant]

People have already been contacted, over and over. It's DOA, as far as I'm concerned. That's exactly why we frown on people using ETS to get buyers for their big ideas (which require preorders). TOIOU is an anomaly, and even that had a rough start. I'm very glad it followed through, but I'm sure those involved remember my reticence toward the project right up until they actually had a finished product. People don't realize how fucking hard it is to do something like that on a scale that can be supported by the ETS community. Even just mailing stuff is a gigantic chore.

[icklekitty]

I think the main problem here is communication. People have been grateful for way less - hey, paid for way less - than what's been promised here, but not providing answers is quite disrespectful IMO.

In the rough times Levi mention as above, I had lots of sleepless nights worrying about letting down the community, and this led to me constantly posting/checking every bit of the Internet that had Nine Inch Nails written on it. I wanted to be as transparent as possible because I know what the wrath of a wronged NIN fan is like (often enough I am that wrath) and I was always aware that this project belonged more to the people that weren't editing those files. I can't really fathom why the same isn't happening here. I feel a bit sick for even trusting this project, giving it the benefit of the doubt, and holding back on criticism. I know Clive offered help some months ago on behalf of TOIOU, but it was refused.

I'm going to be in Los Angeles this February. Depending on where I am in my menstrual cycle maybe I'll track down where these hard drives live and do a robbery.

*edit* this came up on nin.com a little while ago and I posted some stuff there: http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?52,...54#msg-1261854 http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?52,...39#msg-1265439 I don't know if it'll help any but I'll happily hand over any correspondence I have

[Torgo]

I have no idea what's going on (last I had heard from somewhere that they were essentially finished), but I used to have all of the footage on a separate hard drive and I kind of wish I had kept it... although I would have felt like a dick if I had done anything with it.

[MAD]

I sent him a message few days ago, here's the reply:

Hey MAD,

hope all is well. sorry for the delay in getting back to you. the project is still going. and very close to being finished. we had a few technical set backs