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    Quote Originally Posted by Khrz View Post
    Ultimately my personal opinion is that everyone's kneejerking a bit too forcefully.
    Exactly. Seems like extreme reactions from all sides and very little actual dialogue.

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    dismissing Kant as a voice for "white colonialism" is ludicrous in the context of a discussion about philosophy in general. At some point, any specialized focus (which I'm sure already leans) goes out the window when the context is broadened, and if people are saying that Plato is somehow dismissible because he was white... that's just nuts. When I was in college, I took a class that centered around classic Japanese literature and philosophy. That was the primary focus, but we also discussed Confucius at length. Why, since he was Chinese, would we be discussing him in a course on Japanese lit? Probably because he was hugely influential to Japanese philosophers and writers.

    When you sign up for an education, you are going to be presented with thoughts and ideas from people you might not personally be interested in. I personally couldn't stand reading Jacques Derrida, but tough shit; a course dedicated to Philosophy and Literary Criticism would be sorely lacking if it excluded him for whatever reason. We also read Kant, Plato, Cixous, Roland Barthes, Aristotle, Freud, Confucius, Bertrand Russell, Thomas More, Sun Tzu, and tons of excerpts from writers from different regions and eras. I would assume that if USC had a specialized focus, we would have leaned towards that, but we still would have read Kant, because otherwise that course is bullshit.

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    I don't buy it. It's one thing to aim for a more inclusive curriculum, it's another to demand that that subject matter be dropped because of race. This whole thing stinks of that ScienceMustFall video a while back, where they wanted to drop 'decolonize' science by teaching about witch doctors that can strike people down with lightning.

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    In the last couple of days, backpage has removed their adult sections, apparently facebook and Instagram are cracking down on "questionable" content, and now Fetlife just made a very confusing statement that says:

    We just got some bad news. We can no longer allow FetLifers to publicly share sexual pics and vids containing blood visible in them. As much as this news saddens us, there is nothing we can currently do about it, particularly with the current political climate.
    Is all of this shit connected? What in the fuck is going on? This saddens me so much. I've been searching like crazy for the last couple of hours to try to find out why, and I'm unable to come up with anything.

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    Get fucked, you ignorant old bastard.

    I know (okay, I hope) nothing will actually come from this, but it just infuriates me that anyone so astronomically fucking idiotic could be in a position of power at any level of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah K View Post
    apparently facebook and Instagram are cracking down on "questionable" content
    *cough*bullfuckingshit they are*cough*

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/maggyvaneij...en9#.dqzQm5234

    According to Facebook, video of a 12 year old hanging herself isn't against their community standards.

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    After 146 years, Ringling Bros. Circus' The Greatest Show on Earth is closing down for good: http://www.seattletimes.com/business...ter-146-years/

    Thanks a lot 21st Century. Oh, and animal activists.... fuck you. I hope a tiger kills your ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    After 146 years, Ringling Bros. Circus' The Greatest Show on Earth is closing down for good: http://www.seattletimes.com/business...ter-146-years/

    Thanks a lot 21st Century. Oh, and animal activists.... fuck you. I hope a tiger kills your ass.
    Blaming animal rights activists for this is idiotic. Fewer people were going because there just aren't enough people who like the circus, and it's not like it something you go to year after year. Once you've seen it, you've seen it, so repeat customers aren't pouring in through the gates. Operating costs were skyrocketing and attendance was falling, at the same time. The circus wasn't some public service that has to continue; it was a private entertainment venture. Businesses close when they're not viable anymore. And this is coming from someone with an awful lot of friends and colleagues who got their start with RB. I know what that circus means to some people. My last roommate owed his entire career to them. In that regard, it's sad to see it go. But it's stupid to say that this happened because a small number of activists were upset about it, and even dumber to literally wish a gruesome death upon them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Blaming animal rights activists for this is idiotic. Fewer people were going because there just aren't enough people who like the circus, and it's not like it something you go to year after year. Once you've seen it, you've seen it, so repeat customers aren't pouring in through the gates. Operating costs were skyrocketing and attendance was falling, at the same time. The circus wasn't some public service that has to continue; it was a private entertainment venture. Businesses close when they're not viable anymore. And this is coming from someone with an awful lot of friends and colleagues who got their start with RB. I know what that circus means to some people. My last roommate owed his entire career to them. In that regard, it's sad to see it go. But it's stupid to say that this happened because a small number of activists were upset about it, and even dumber to literally wish a gruesome death upon them.
    Oh and you think these activists are any better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    Oh and you think these activists are any better?
    Any better than who what on what regard?


    When I was a kid there still was circus on TV. That quickly disappeared. Now there are fewer and fewer of them, and this trend has been going on way before animal activists had their aim set on the well-being of the animals on display. Circuses have been failing since the 70ies at least, even novelty circuses are struggling hard.
    As @theimage13 said, it's a matter of market, offer and demand. The public just isn't there, they're just not going, and it's not because they've been guilted into feeling bad for the elephants and horses, it's because they don't give a fuck anymore.
    You can hate on animal activists all you want, but they don't need to do anything for circuses to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khrz View Post
    Any better than who what on what regard?
    Look, I'm aware that animals are mistreated and that does suck. I'm just dealing with the fact that something I remembered from my childhood is now becoming obsolete. I actually liked going to the circus as a kid and Ringing Brothers put on an entertaining show. I'm just saddened that there won't be anything like this as there's just too many morons nowadays looking into their fucking smartphones worrying about this tweet or their fucking social status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    Look, I'm aware that animals are mistreated and that does suck. I'm just dealing with the fact that something I remembered from my childhood is now becoming obsolete. I actually liked going to the circus as a kid and Ringing Brothers put on an entertaining show. I'm just saddened that there won't be anything like this as there's just too many morons nowadays looking into their fucking smartphones worrying about this tweet or their fucking social status.
    Still they go to the theater, concerts, museums... So blaming new technologies isn't it either. You'd have to erase a huge chunk of cultural events and places for the circuses to rise again.
    They're from an era where they were the only entertainment that actually came to you, to your little shitty town where nothing happened ever, where a rogue cow was the stuff of legends. Things have changed, people had TVs, and games, cities grew, and circuses have become more and more obsolete and out of place. That's how it goes...

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    Well, I wish people aren't so fickle these days.

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    I usually agree with thevoid99 on most things especially Bowie. I happen to love animals of all kinds so these types of things circus's, Sea World whatever in most cases have been proven to have abused animals at some point so things like the killer whale show at Sea World or the circus going bye bye is fine with me.

    Now if these types of organizations want to round up Trump supporters and abuse the fuck out of them, then throw them into a wood chipper thats fine with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    Oh and you think these activists are any better?
    Huh? Any better than who? Or what? What on earth are you talking about?

    Also, for what it's worth: several of my friends from the circus were also animal lovers - the kind whose blood would boil at anything from a poorly run zoo to headlines about some guy abandoning his puppy. They all swore up and down that a specific point of pride for working with RB was how well they treated the animals.

    What on god's green earth do smartphones and social media have to do with the circus closing? People didn't stop going because they were afraid that Mrs. Johnson next door would *tisk tisk* them for being some animal hating commies. They stopped going because it's old hat. Been there, done that, seen it. Don't need to so it again and again. The circus was first and foremost a family attraction. Now, think about who's having kids: 20- and 30-somethings. What are they into these days? Not the circus! They take their kids elsewhere; if they can even afford it on top of their six figure student loans and shitty wages.

    It's fucking expensive to run that tour. All of the staff on tour, all of the local staff that has to help, the fact that they literally transport their crew everywhere on their own TRAIN. I could go on. It costs a ton of money to make this happen, but people who have already seen it aren't screaming to come back and see it again. You can only soak a sponge so much before it just won't hold any more water. You'd have had to really jack up ticket prices to keep it floating, but if they'd done that, attendance would have fallen even harder. Believe me, I've been on tours that were canceled for just that reason.

    I get that you liked the circus and you're sad to see it go. But you can't just go around blaming activists, then accuse the entire population of being narcissistic and paranoid about their social status. I mean, I suppose you can. You'd just be entirely off-base in your accusations.

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    People's tastes change. When I was a kid, there were at least 5 variety shows on TV per week, e.g. "Hollywood Palace," "The Jackie Gleason Show," "The Dean Martin Show," "The Sonny and Cher Show." Now there are none.

    There are still "circuses" but they're different kinds of thematic changing circuses, like Cirque du Soleil is hugely profitable and successful.

    Ice skating shows have hung in there in various incarnations for several decades, too.

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    Chelsea Manning's sentence commuted: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38659068

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    Terrorist attack in Quebec. Target was mosque.
    5 dead and multiple injured.
    Story is unfolding.

    http://www.cbc.ca/1.3957686
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    It's setting up to be another banner year for Chicago: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38959787

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archive_Reports View Post
    It's setting up to be another banner year for Chicago: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38959787
    See this.

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    "Was that airliner meant to be underneath me?" Amazing. :-D
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/cele...ort/ar-AAmWozw

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    http://dlisted.com/2017/02/15/hot-slut-of-the-day-1223/

    here in canada, "power of the pussy" has a whole different meaning ;p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Substance242 View Post
    "Was that airliner meant to be underneath me?" Amazing. :-D
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/cele...ort/ar-AAmWozw
    My air traffic controller husband (been an atc for nearly 35 years) says this is not uncommon for pilots to get confused over runways. Not common, but not rare. Particularly at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Informative from a historical perspective.

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    Okay, this could alternately be posted in "the thread of creepy", because this is fucked up.

    Kim Jong-nam death suspect thought she was 'in a TV prank'

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