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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    Someone came up with this hashtag on Twitter:
    #MoolahFacilitatedRape

    I find this to be absolutely disgusting. Then again, this is WWE as they used someone as deplorable and a known homophobe like the Ultimate Warrior for the humanitarian award. They're going to induct a well-known con artist/wife stealer and a musician who called half of the U.S. as "Dumbfuckistan" So I guess they'll use Chris Benoit as their father of the year award.
    Warrior said some bigoted things. He's a saint compared to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piko View Post
    Warrior said some bigoted things. He's a saint compared to her.
    That is true. Then again, he's a saint compared to many others in the WWE like Meekmahan. I'm sure there's so many things about him that he's hiding.

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    terrible that they are naming the match after Moolah. and the fact that they are inducting Trump-loving saying ridiciulous things Kid Rock into the Hall of Fame is also deplorable. but, as I saw in a comment on a wrestling site, WWE is a republican company and they are not shy to show it.

    I'm also disgusted that as another poster pointed out, WWE turns to racism with Asuka. they did it once with Bliss, and doing it again? unnecessary.

    Reigns is not getting over. he's cut some of his better promos, but even younger or casual fans are realizing they are shoving him down our throats. it comes off as desperate. even my middle school students I teach say the same thing!

    the Cena promo was good last night. funny too at times.

    I can't...ok, I can..believe how bad the booking is for this Wrestlemania. it's a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by versusreality View Post
    the Cena promo was good last night. funny too at times.
    Cena's gimmick now should be every year for Wrestlemania he calls out a former WWE Superstar for one more match. Flair, Foley, Hogan...

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    I'm waiting for the clips and edited videos talking about how Moolah was a trailblazer and how she empowered women with her career. I personally don't see what's so empowering with drugging female trainees and pimping them out while they're attending your wrestling school.

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    I'm going to share this video for those who don't know about Moolah as there's some things about what she did is just reprehensible.


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    The fan backlash to moolah is pretty big and starting to get a lot of traction. If people didn't know about her, they do now. At this point I'm sure they're going to have to change the name.

    Few of the girls (Becky, Carmella, etc.) posted how much of a trendsetter she was and blah blah. People are letting them have it. Either they didn't know or they were told to tweet to say good things about her.

    It's pretty cool to see so many people be so vocal about it.

    Build to mania. Tbh, I think it's been pretty good for the most part. Reigns is cutting some of the best promos of his life (But no one cares), Cena was amazing last night, the Strowman direction is very odd in a haha kind of way. Probably the best build to a mania I've seen in awhile. It feels pretty special.

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    They caved. Now it's called Wrestlemania Women's Battle Royal. Not sure why they can't just name it after someone else. I get them not going the Chyna route. But there's so many other options. Sheri, Richter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piko View Post
    They caved. Now it's called Wrestlemania Women's Battle Royal. Not sure why they can't just name it after someone else. I get them not going the Chyna route. But there's so many other options. Sheri, Richter?
    Money talks apparently. Mars Wrigley, Snickers parent company lodged their disappointment with WWE regarding the name of the match and that seems to have fixed it.

    WWE has to come to terms with the fact that wrestlers with drug and mental health problems are part of their history. Yes, exclude Hogan for his racism, Moolah for her sex trafficking and Benoit for... OBVIOUS reasons; but don't exclude those who gave a lot to the business and in return were thrown away like broken toys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. Randazzo View Post
    Money talks apparently. Mars Wrigley, Snickers parent company lodged their disappointment with WWE regarding the name of the match and that seems to have fixed it.

    WWE has to come to terms with the fact that wrestlers with drug and mental health problems are part of their history. Yes, exclude Hogan for his racism, Moolah for her sex trafficking and Benoit for... OBVIOUS reasons; but don't exclude those who gave a lot to the business and in return were thrown away like broken toys.
    You know it had to have killed them inside to change it. They disabled comments on YouTube. They knew it was an issue and they waited for days, hoping for it to go away, to actually do something about it. Pretty pathetic. Glad the sponsors stepped up. If they hadn't, it probably wouldn't have changed. PR is a bitch.

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    After all the women's revolution speech, this Moolah incident is nothing sort of ironic, but all's well if ends well. I disagree with Hogan's exclusion, and luckily, even if slowly, but WWE is cutting back from his absolute banishment, and now not only do they show him, they can even mention him by name. He should be back in a few years.

    Or alternatively he dies soon and it hasten up his reinstatement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Piko View Post
    You know it had to have killed them inside to change it. They disabled comments on YouTube. They knew it was an issue and they waited for days, hoping for it to go away, to actually do something about it. Pretty pathetic. Glad the sponsors stepped up. If they hadn't, it probably wouldn't have changed. PR is a bitch.

    On /r/squaredcircle people encouraged one another to write to the sponsors themselves about their dissatisfaction, and I'm sure others did as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volband View Post
    After all the women's revolution speech, this Moolah incident is nothing sort of ironic, but all's well if ends well. I disagree with Hogan's exclusion, and luckily, even if slowly, but WWE is cutting back from his absolute banishment, and now not only do they show him, they can even mention him by name. He should be back in a few years.

    Or alternatively he dies soon and it hasten up his reinstatement.


    On /r/squaredcircle people encouraged one another to write to the sponsors themselves about their dissatisfaction, and I'm sure others did as well.
    They did. They were very sincere about it too. Pretty cool thing to see.

    It's weird to me how WWE picks and chooses their battles though. Warrior has said some pretty terrible things apparently and they have an award with his name on it that represents probably the opposite of his "philosophy". Hulk said some terrible things but he isn't Moolah bad. They're either that shortsighted or they assume the accusations on moolah are nowhere near as bad as Hulk's racism.

    It's puzzling how they could think honoring her in this day was a good idea. And there's actually some people out there defending her. "Well, being a woman back in the day wasn't easy. She might have done what she felt she needed to do.". Yeah, there's some industry people saying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piko View Post
    They did. They were very sincere about it too. Pretty cool thing to see.

    It's weird to me how WWE picks and chooses their battles though. Warrior has said some pretty terrible things apparently and they have an award with his name on it that represents probably the opposite of his "philosophy". Hulk said some terrible things but he isn't Moolah bad. They're either that shortsighted or they assume the accusations on moolah are nowhere near as bad as Hulk's racism.

    It's puzzling how they could think honoring her in this day was a good idea. And there's actually some people out there defending her. "Well, being a woman back in the day wasn't easy. She might have done what she felt she needed to do.". Yeah, there's some industry people saying that.
    The only thing I can think of about Moolah is that she might be the only 80s legend-tier (in their eyes, mind you) women's wrestler, and they wanted someone to match Andre. A Lita Battle Royale would sound kinda lame; I'd rather have it named after some women from the 1950s, than someone still alive.

    As for Hogan, it's all about PR. Vince and Hogan owes everything to one another, so it's not like Vince has a vendetta against Hulk, even if he had many reasons to have so. But Hogan's controversy came at a different time and gained immense publicity. It doesn't matter how stupid it is to punish someone for his own private thoughts, if not doing so results in loss of sponsors, then you don't have much choice. Aside from avid Hogan haters, I doubt anyone cares. Black wrestlers came out and say it's whatever, and many more people came out to say that while Hogan was an absolute snake as a wrestling politician, he was a normal guy otherwise, and not some racist bully.

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    I honestly think they just like the way "Memorial Battle Royal" rolls of the tongue. Seriously. And with the options of deceased female wrestlers, they decided that Moolah was worth the shot. It's poor decision making.

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    Maybe that'll have an African American tourney and call it the Hulk Hogan Invitational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piko View Post
    Maybe that'll have an African American tourney and call it the Hulk Hogan Invitational.
    What about.... naming the Father of the Year award after Chris Benoit? What about a women's service award named in honor of Jimmy Snuka?

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    Wouldn't put it past them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piko View Post
    Wouldn't put it past them.
    How about a humanitarian award after El Stupido of the United States of America or a philanthropist honor named after Kathie Lee Gifford?

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    Stephanie trying to say it was the "WWE Universe" that made them reconsider. BS. It was one of their biggest sponsors to their biggest event of the year that made them change it. As Iron Sheik likes to say, : "money talks and bullshit walks"

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    Quote Originally Posted by versusreality View Post
    Stephanie trying to say it was the "WWE Universe" that made them reconsider. BS. It was one of their biggest sponsors to their biggest event of the year that made them change it. As Iron Sheik likes to say, : "money talks and bullshit walks"
    I fucking love the Iron Sheik. I will gladly take a camel clutch from him.

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    What she said felt so backhanded. And the fans in a way did have a lot to do with it. They went right for the sponsors. Vince has got to be pissed though. Funny you mention Sheik too. When she tweeted that, I replied with something along the lines of being humble and not taking responsibility for something so stupid. No "we're sorry for the offense this may have caused". Just backhanded PR talk. Glad they got kicked in the ass.

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    It still doesn't end the cancer, that is the way WWE is pushing the women's roster. It's alllllll a PR grab. The way they talk about them sounds like these are some autistic people or something, but not even the Special Olympics has such a condescending tone towards their participants.

    The first ever women's anything would be a big deal without talking about it every 2 minutes during the PPV. Let them fucking have that historic moment without making it sound like it's some caretakers gift towards them. Stephanie's commentary during the Royal Rumble was absolutely pathetic.

    And on top of that, they seriously tried to go with Moolah. How can you be so incompetent and inconsistent at the same time?

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    The Women's division is just a marketing gimmick, i'm glad they are giving opportunities to talented people, but they way they do it is irritating.

    And to show Stephanie as a "trailblazer" an a "innovator" it the biggest joke of all.

    I do understand why people complained about Moolah, but let's face it: lots of WWE Legends were scum: Hogan, Warrior, Snuka, JBL, etc...

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    They think we're stupid. The whole thing with Stephanie is laughable .

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    Quote Originally Posted by henryeatscereal View Post
    I do understand why people complained about Moolah, but let's face it: lots of WWE Legends were scum: Hogan, Warrior, Snuka, JBL, etc...
    Snuka was a murderer and Moolah a sex trafficker. I wouldn't wash them up with anyone else you mentioned. There are assholes and murderers/sex traffickers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piko View Post
    They think we're stupid. The whole thing with Stephanie is laughable .
    Exactly. It goes to show how out of touch Meekmahan is with his audience and the company's sense of contempt. Plus, trying to make Stephanie the new public face of the company that isn't a wrestler is a fucking joke. BTW, has Linda gotten into any kind of trouble yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    Exactly. It goes to show how out of touch Meekmahan is with his audience and the company's sense of contempt. Plus, trying to make Stephanie the new public face of the company that isn't a wrestler is a fucking joke. BTW, has Linda gotten into any kind of trouble yet?
    They make their money. You might buy a ticket to see Rollins. But Reigns is shoved into the headlined match but they instantly just assume he's a draw.

    Everything with Stephanie is a joke. A heel who never really get any kind of payback. Always pops up when there's a first for the women so she can get the credit. It's pathetic but at least they actually focus on women properly now.

    I doubt Linda will pop up into anything. She's probably the one qualified person Trump hired to do anything. Probably why she's so under the radar

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    Yeah but... I really don't think Linda is that smart. Meanwhile, now that Moolah is out of the picture for WrestleMania (thank you wrestling fans with common sense). I think it's time for the Ultimate Warrior's name from that award he's named after to be DELETED. I'm reading some comments at Cageside and someone posted this excerpt from Bret Hart's book. What I just read is probably one of the most unforgivable acts in humanity. Sure, Hogan and Cena are dicks but at least they took their time to be with children and make them feel better just for a little bit. Warrior.... I hope he is in Hell and is burning there with Moolah. https://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/20...sues#467192575

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoid99 View Post
    Warrior.... I hope he is in Hell and is burning there with Moolah.
    That is some embarrassing shit to type out my dude. And I would most certainly not question anyone's smartness in the same paragraph I'm writing some mental things like that.

    On to the actual topic, I wouldn't be completely against cleaning the house, but that would include getting rid of people like Austin and Flair for example, and that suddenly wouldn't be so cool with many of the fans. If a wife beater can be in the hall of fame and return to the Raw celebration show in the midst of the women's revolution, then a trophy can be named after a jackass like Warrior. But most certainly, none of them did anything that would warrant them to burn in hell.

    Side note: Bret Hart has to be the most insufferable person to read or listen to. I do not question the guy's honesty, but man, if depression could materialize as a human being, then it would be him. The more interviews I watched with him, the more it became obvious that to himself, he was basically the God of wrestling, and (almost) everyone else was out to get him or sabotage him. But when he caused the screwjob to happen with his pettiness, that was totally okay in his mind, and once again, he was the victim.

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    went to the house show at MSG last night. good times. an early 2 year anniversary gift for my GF, our first date was a house show at MSG. decent card, but you can tell they were playing it safe to protect themselves for Wrestlemania. fair enough.

    my first MSG house show was back in November 97, and it was after Survivor Series I believe. Bret vs Shawn was advertised, but that obviously didn't happen. I distinctly remember starting a "We Want Bret" chant with my cousin and his friend, and within a minute the entire arena was chanting it. It pissed Shawn off, and he started twirling his fingers like he was conducting an orchestra. And he almost lost to the Brooklyn Brawler!

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