ninwiki

[Ryan]

[Destruct26]

Hey ninwiki- you might want to update the 10 Miles High section as far as the flute sample it uses from the beginning of The Downward Spiral, over the acoustic TDS motif. I'd edit it onto the page myself but I'd probably screw it up. It is found in the beginning of 10 Miles High for a few bars but at a lower tempo.

[bwary]

Since variations of the NTAE album cover are being uploaded and kept track of, this might be of interest on the NTAE page.

There a couple other variations of the black cover. Minor, yes; but if the two white versions with only a minor difference- one from nin.com and the other other from itunes are listed, although the difference is minor, then maybe the alternate black ones should be shown, too?

See the three black versions:


This example uses the following three images:
1. facebook profile
2. tumblr profile (background and title layer remain the same; adds a layer with more "noise")
3. instagram profile (shifts the image with a different crop)

direct links to the highest resolutions of each
facebook profile: [use https://graph.facebook.com/ninoffici...ure?width=9999 ]
facebook cover: [use facebook]
facebook post: [use facebook]

instagram post 1: https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram...22126592_n.jpg
instagram post 2: https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram...06191872_n.jpg
instagram profile: https://scontent-dft4-2.cdninstagram...31276288_a.jpg

itunes: http://is2.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music111/v4/36/95/ab/3695ab12-27f4-9061-ab3e-95b1a5683ad9/source/3072x3072bb.jpg

nin.com post1a->store: http://www.nin.com/wp-content/upload...7BA1FB548.jpeg
nin.com post1b->share: http://www.nin.com/wp-content/upload..._streaming.jpg
(1b is used/found in the social media share links of the same nin.com news post as 1a)

twitter post 1: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz0w3ZSUAAAovcx.jpg:orig
twitter post 2: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0Xqv-wUsAEfWmr.jpg:orig
twitter post 3: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0ZHkRKUAAA9x1e.jpg:orig
twitter post 4: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0oZkCpUcAEwEG6.jpg:orig
twitter profile: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...4/xSSI9WvE.jpg
twitter banner: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banner...26771/1500x500
twitter (TR) post: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz0lQw_UAAEF22_.jpg:orig

tumblr post 1: http://68.media.tumblr.com/daf385029...6nxo1_1280.jpg
tumblr post 2: http://68.media.tumblr.com/8b42089f6...6nxo1_1280.jpg
tumblr profile: http://68.media.tumblr.com/avatar_368c115f62fa_512.png

youtube profile: https://yt3.ggpht.com/-Qx75VS973H0/A...ffff/photo.jpg
youtube banner: http://yt3.ggpht.com/V1K70Ux26nIufwe...lizOikjw=w2560

(soundcloud, vimeo, flickr, and myspace have Hesitation Marks / Tension era themes)

sorted and matched
white v1
nin.com post 1b [1500x1500 | JPEG, quality: 98, subsampling OFF | 600 dpi | 24 bit | 1.00mb]
(youtube banner) [2560x1440 | JPEG, quality: 93, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 642kb]

white v2
itunes [3072x3072 | JPEG, quality: 80, subsampling OFF, Grayscale | 1 dpi | 8 bit | 900kb]

white v3
nin.com post 1a [1492x1500 | JPEG, quality: 98, subsampling OFF | 300 dpi | 24 bit | 1.38mb]
twitter (tr) post [1492x1492 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 85, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 426kb]
(youtube profile) [9000x9000 | JPEG, quality: 90, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 3.70mb]

white v4 (matches black v3)
facebook post [960x960 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 92, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 337kb]
instagram post 1 [1080x1080 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 71, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 236kb]
tumblr post 1 [1280x1280 | JPEG, quality: 92, subsampling OFF | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 581kb]
twitter post 1 [1600x1600 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 85, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 636kb]
twitter post 2 [1600x1600 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 85, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 636kb]
twitter post 3 [1600x1600 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 84, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 611kb]
twitter profile [400x400 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 85, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 36.5kb]
(twitter banner) [1500x500 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 85, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 233kb]

black v1
facebook profile [1600x1600 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 84, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 608kb]
(facebook cover) [828x315 JPEG, progressive, quality: 92, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 89.2kb]
instagram post 2 [1080x1080 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 71, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 234kb]
tumblr post 2 [1280x1280 | JPEG, quality: 92, subsampling OFF | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 575kb]
twitter post 4 [1600x1600 | JPEG, progressive, quality: 84, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 608kb]

black v2
tumblr profile [512x512 | PNG - ZIP, Grayscale | 72 dpi | 8 bit | 179kb]

black v3 (matches white v4)
instagram profile [1080x1080 | JPEG, quality: 85, subsampling ON (2x2) | 96 dpi | 24 bit | 305kb]


some additional EXIF on these two:
nin.com post 1a
ImageWidth - 3047
ImageLength - 3064
Software - Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 (Macintosh)
DateTime - 2016:12:15 13:07:35
DateTimeDigitized - 2016:12:08 20:19:34
ExifImageWidth - 1492
ExifImageHeight - 1500


nin.com post 1b
ImageWidth - 471859200
ImageLength - 471859200
Software - Adobe Photoshop CC 2017 (Macintosh)
DateTime - 2016:12:15 13:07:42
ExifImageWidth - 1500
ExifImageHeight - 1500




EDIT: added itunes cover
EDIT2: added facebook post
EDIT3: resorted by version and included more file information
NOTE: version numbers are arbitrary and used only for distinction

[Kulerage]

Hey ninwiki- you might want to update the 10 Miles High section as far as the flute sample it uses from the beginning of The Downward Spiral, over the acoustic TDS motif. I'd edit it onto the page myself but I'd probably screw it up. It is found in the beginning of 10 Miles High for a few bars but at a lower tempo.

I would, but they disabled registration.

[piggy]

Hey ninwiki- you might want to update the 10 Miles High section as far as the flute sample it uses from the beginning of The Downward Spiral, over the acoustic TDS motif. I'd edit it onto the page myself but I'd probably screw it up. It is found in the beginning of 10 Miles High for a few bars but at a lower tempo.

Can this be heard in the version from Things Falling Apart? That's the only version I have right now, and I'm not hearing it.

[FULLMETAL]

Found this on a Silly NIN auction and was curious if these old press sheets are cited/archived on the NINwiki for reference?

[implanted_microchip]

I can't even begin to describe how funny it is to me that even back in TDS era they were promo'ing the fuck out of the fact that NIN took long breaks from touring.

[Destruct26]

Can this be heard in the version from Things Falling Apart? That's the only version I have right now, and I'm not hearing it.

Unfortunately, no- the opening of 10 Miles High (version) off Things Falling Apart opens with a different intro and does not contain the TDS sample. Only 10 Miles High from the WITT single, The Fragile Vinyl/Definitive Version, the middle section of Hello, Everything Is Not Ok from The Fragile Instrumentals (Apple) and/or 10 Miles High (instrumental) off The Fragile: Deviations 1 have the sample.

[piggy]

I'll take your word for it, then, and I've made the edit on the wiki.

[Destruct26]

I'll take your word for it, then, and I've made the edit on the wiki.

Thank you, bruh.

[wizfan]

@bwary , I fixed a lot of articles with Portrait of Decay links to link to .net instead of .com. I think I've wiped out all .com links now!

[bwary]

@bwary , I fixed a lot of articles with Portrait of Decay links to link to .net instead of .com. I think I've wiped out all .com links now!

thanks @wizfan @piggy for updating all those links!

On the Discipline page, there isn't a mention, link, or screen shot of discipline.nin.com that originally appeared on nin.com. (discipline.nin.com eventually became a redirect to theslip.nin.com.) The additional download pages that were made available through radio stations (79 of an unknown total have been identified), although still load in the browser, downloads don't work anymore. All of them are archived and "function" you know where ;-)

[jmtd]

On the Discipline page, there isn't a mention, link, or screen shot of discipline.nin.com that originally appeared on nin.com. (discipline.nin.com eventually became a redirect to theslip.nin.com.)

I just discovered this the other day whilst working on backing up the old sudjam sites for archive.org

[piggy]

thanks @wizfan @piggy for updating all those links!

No prob.

On the Discipline page, there isn't a mention, link, or screen shot of discipline.nin.com that originally appeared on nin.com. (discipline.nin.com eventually became a redirect to theslip.nin.com.) The additional download pages that were made available through radio stations (79 of an unknown total have been identified), although still load in the browser, downloads don't work anymore. All of them are archived and "function" you know where ;-)

Made some updates to that end.

[implanted_microchip]

On the page for The Fragile (Song), under the section about the (Deconstructed) remix, it says that "According to Reznor, its structure was the inspiration for "The Frail."" What's the source on that? I've not seen much of Trent commenting on all of the website-only remixes from that era and am surprised by the idea that a main song from the album was inspired by a remix that was released after. I'd love to know the larger context of that.

[seasonsinthesky]

On the page for The Fragile (Song), under the section about the (Deconstructed) remix, it says that "According to Reznor, its structure was the inspiration for "The Frail."" What's the source on that? I've not seen much of Trent commenting on all of the website-only remixes from that era and am surprised by the idea that a main song from the album was inspired by a remix that was released after. I'd love to know the larger context of that.

All of the Moulder-involved remixes released through nin.com were created during the making of the album. It's the TFA stuff that was made later.

Also, I've never seen the dates the mp3s were posted on the site, so they very well could have been posted before the album came out.

[piggy]

The source for that info was remix.nin.com and I've updated the song page accordingly.

[Ryan]

I updated the NTAE physical component info:

http://www.nin.wiki/Not_The_Actual_Events#Formats

[ninjaw]

I updated the NTAE physical component info:

http://www.nin.wiki/Not_The_Actual_Events#Formats

You seen variants ? I'm still chasing for the word Halo29 variants, got 3 all unreadable, physically cannot see the word nine.

[Ryan]

Added PC image:

http://www.nin.wiki/Not_The_Actual_Events#Formats

Feel free to add more images from the actual physical component if you like.

[Ryan]

@Malechite , can you please add a thumbnail for Patriot's Day on the front page next to Before The Flood?

We'll also need to do it for The Vietnam War when the official cover is revealed later on.

[implanted_microchip]

Where do all those lyrics for The New Flesh come from on the NINWiki page for it? I cannot for the life of me spot the "I've seen this scene a million times" lyrics save for "this is how it all begins" in either the Definitive Edition or We're In This Together single editions of the song, nor is the "Hold it close so I can taste it" lyric present or the "alive" at the end of "I've become" present. Maybe my ears are entirely failing me but I have no idea where these can be found in the mix. Is the 1999 vinyl version somehow containing a whole extra verse or something that I just don't know about?

[seasonsinthesky]

Where do all those lyrics for The New Flesh come from on the NINWiki page for it? I cannot for the life of me spot the "I've seen this scene a million times" lyrics save for "this is how it all begins" in either the Definitive Edition or We're In This Together single editions of the song, nor is the "Hold it close so I can taste it" lyric present or the "alive" at the end of "I've become" present. Maybe my ears are entirely failing me but I have no idea where these can be found in the mix. Is the 1999 vinyl version somehow containing a whole extra verse or something that I just don't know about?

Those are printed in the vinyl lyrics book. Just like many PHM songs, there are lots of unsung lines. "Alive" is very much present, though – it's just that all that cuts through is the "iiiiiiiii" part of the word.

[implanted_microchip]

Those are printed in the vinyl lyrics book. Just like many PHM songs, there are lots of unsung lines. "Alive" is very much present, though – it's just that all that cuts through is the "iiiiiiiii" part of the word.

I figured it had to come from the lyric booklet for the vinyl release, but normally NINWiki is really good about denoting what lyrics aren't actually sung or are sung but not printed. Thanks for clarifying!

[Jon]

I figured it had to come from the lyric booklet for the vinyl release

Here's a really quick picture:

[Ryan]

^ Might be a good idea to add that to ninwiki.

Also might be interesting to make note of how the lyrics are stylised and how it matches that of Demon Seed with a possible correlation (if not already noted in depth). Also interesting how stanza 3 references The Becoming lyrics, Mr. Self Destruct lyrics and the "this is how it all begins" is said in the HTDA song Recursive Self-Improvement.

Also also interesting to note how he can "take it" in The New Flesh but begs to "make it stop" in Complications of the Flesh. Trent is a great puzzle maker. Let's call him Pinhead II.

Meanwhile, I've added an image of the printing of "Halo Twenty Nine" to the NTAE page next to an image of the physical component.

[Kulerage]

Also might be interesting to make note of how the lyrics are stylised and how it matches that of Demon Seed with a possible correlation (if not already noted in
.

It's also the same method used in The Greater Good

[Ryan]

It's also the same method used in The Greater Good

Hmmm... Very interesting, Watson. *strokes beard*

[seasonsinthesky]

The only thing TNF, TGG and DS have in common is the lyric printing style. I guess they're all kinda creepy too.

[ninjaw]

Meanwhile, I've added an image of the printing of "Halo Twenty Nine" to the NTAE page next to an image of the physical component.

It's amazing I'm the only one who shot it, and asked 2 others to do it ... I received an answer from a fouth one claiming she got one different but didn't know how to send a picture... on facebook !
Also the best picture would be one with all pages, unfortunaly mine got my middle finger on it