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    ^That's the beauty with NIN super fans, we all have such different views. Some people love HESITATION... I dont.

    I LOVE Y_Z, almost more than TF, and love it way more than TS, HESITATION, TRILOGY... I can understand how some may feel like Y_Z has a reoccurring sound; but for me I love the album, its an amazing story and LOADED with content. More than any other album IMO.

    - 'TBOTE' Is a good old fashioned rock song!!
    - 'The Good Soldier' is a song I always get lost in... LOVE IT
    - Vessel makes me feel awesome
    - 'Capital G' gets me singing
    - 'My Violent Heart' makes me want to get out my eye liner and wear all black;
    - 'The Warning' Is such a good observation of humanity, I love Trents poems
    - 'God Given' is a great track
    - 'Meet Your Master' is fucking funky and powerful, the NIN that I LOVE! Come on down come on down come on doooWWWwnnnnNNn
    - 'TGD' I love the vocals, then the all out destruction at the end.
    - 'Zero Sum' - A M A Z I N G
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    Year Zero was excellent, but I am a huge sucker for concept albums in general.

    In a similar vein, I always find that I love Hesitation Marks whenever I listen to it. That album really deserves a better rep.

    Canĺt remember the last time I listened to Ghosts I-IV or The Slip, though. Both of them sound fairly uninspired when compared to the Trilogy which covers a lot of the same musical ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefragile_jake View Post
    I completely agree. My main issue with Year Zero is how lifeless at times it feels. Everything feels, sonically, like it just comes across moreso like GarageBand loops as opposed to something like Hesitation Marks which is very digital and drum machine / sample oriented, but feels FAR more organic. I never got into the ARG or the concept behind the album either, but I do know it's immensely loved by a lot of the community. However, I feel the remix album brings new life into songs that I don't typically care for ... particularly with In This Twilight and Capital G.

    All in all, I admire the effort of what Year Zero is trying to do ... but I never care to revisit it.
    There's one thing the YZ remixes do : it's putting some groove in the music. I really love it when they make the songs danceable, it's always been there in the nin catalog (Sin, Happiness in slavery, Closer, Only etc) and to me, that's one of Trent's talent : putting some groove into industrial music. I'm a drummer and amateur dancer so I guess I'm quite sensitive to that. And yes, I think YZ falls flat in terms of groove, the vocal delivery and the beats in general do not gel so well imo (which might have been the point of the album, it sounds heavy with a purpose maybe).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLobster View Post
    *looks at "Not The Actual Events" cover*

    Yes.

    Where?

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    I actually like Year Zero a lot. I didn't really pay attention to it when I first got it, but when I went back and listened to it recently I thought it was really good! And I loved Hesitation Marks when it came out. It can't compare with Downward Spiral or anything like that, but I thought it was a huge step up from The Slip, which was okay. I'm not a fan of Ghosts. It just can't hold my attention.

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    I fucking love the Slip: well, most of it anyway.
    1,000,000 and letting you work perfectly together and they're fucking awesome, nasty, classic nin rock songs.

    Discipline is groovy as fuck and I love the way it lines up ALMOST perfectly with Echoplex, which is one of my favorite NIN songs of all time.
    "My voice just echoes off these walls. I don't eat anything at all "
    It may well be the catchiest NIN song.
    I love head down but it's just a LITTLE too heart wrenching.

    All in all, I don't understand why this album isn't held in higher regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elevenism View Post
    I fucking love the Slip: well, most of it anyway.
    1,000,000 and letting you work perfectly together and they're fucking awesome, nasty, classic nin rock songs.

    Discipline is groovy as fuck and I love the way it lines up ALMOST perfectly with Echoplex, which is one of my favorite NIN songs of all time.
    "My voice just echoes off these walls. I don't eat anything at all "
    It may well be the catchiest NIN song.
    I love head down but it's just a LITTLE too heart wrenching.

    All in all, I don't understand why this album isn't held in higher regard.
    It's not that I don't like The Slip, it's just that after hearing most of the songs live, the album almost seems like rushed demos.

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    The Slip is maybe my favorite NIN to listen to, full stop, if not the best album or the one I feel the most strongly about. It's this raw, tight little journey and it's totally unique in hearing NIN that stripped back. There was a very long time that it was my least favorite of the records but once it clicked, it clicked.

    Though I will say Bad Witch could threaten it if it doesn't wear off; this record has a sense of real vitality to it and it goes on a similar journey from aggressive to reflective that resonates with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loopcloses View Post
    The Slip is... totally unique in hearing NIN that stripped back.
    Still and With Teeth would like to have a word with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loopcloses View Post
    The Slip is maybe my favorite NIN to listen to, full stop, if not the best album or the one I feel the most strongly about. It's this raw, tight little journey and it's totally unique in hearing NIN that stripped back. There was a very long time that it was my least favorite of the records but once it clicked, it clicked.

    Though I will say Bad Witch could threaten it if it doesn't wear off; this record has a sense of real vitality to it and it goes on a similar journey from aggressive to reflective that resonates with me.
    Feeling the same way about The Slip. Though I love NTAE a lot as well in the same manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    Still and With Teeth would like to have a word with you.
    See, I don't think With Teeth is stripped back. For example, You Know Who You Are? contains drums, bass, three-ish guitars, two synths, and a piano all playing distinct parts at once, and I may not have even counted everything as it's so dense it's hard to pick out the instruments.

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    Yeah, I don’t get the “stripped back” foment for WT. It may not be the most layered thing he’s ever done but the album/production sounds very polished IMHO. Unlike say the production of The Slip or the “rockers” from Bad Witch (which kind of sounds like slightly more polished songs from TS era).

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    Yeah, With Teeth is basically arena rock by way of NIN--very grandiose sounding, a lot going on. Even in the songs with less going on, they're still designed to have that "big" feel. There are exceptions, of course, but even then it's not in the same way that The Slip feels.

    Still is obviously stripped back because it's a pseudo-acoustic album, a totally different animal from The Slip's aggressive garage sound.

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    *steps up on soapbox* I was not too big of a fan of "Less Than" but I was willing to give it a chance if I heard it live. Heard it live at the Las Vegas show this past June while I was uncomfortably squished preventing myself from falling and getting trampled on by assholes in the pit. Completely ruined that song experience for me. *steps off of soapbox*

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    Quote Originally Posted by OoopiDoop View Post
    *steps up on soapbox* I was not too big of a fan of "Less Than" but I was willing to give it a chance if I heard it live. Heard it live at the Las Vegas show this past June while I was uncomfortably squished preventing myself from falling and getting trampled on by assholes in the pit. Completely ruined that song experience for me. *steps off of soapbox*
    Sorry to hear you had a bad experience.

    I've heard Less Than live twice. It made The Hand That Feeds feel a bit saggy in comparison. Personally, I'd put it up there with Head Like A Hole.

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