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    Controversial Nine Inch Nails opinions

    Since I've seen similar threads in other places on the forum, but I can't find one specifically for NIN, I thought I'd start one.

    And, to start off, I like "The Slip" and "Everything".

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    Random thought: You should try the random thought thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSLIN View Post
    Random thought: You should try the random thought thread.
    Didn't think of that. I'm sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binaryhermit View Post
    Didn't think of that. I'm sorry.
    It's cool man, I'm here to help.

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    Heres a controversial opinion: I think this thread should stay. It serves a purpose I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    Heres a controversial opinion: I think this thread should stay. It serves a purpose I think.
    I agree.

    -I like The Slip. A lot.
    -I like many songs on PHM, but I do find young TR indefensibly whiny on it.
    -It pisses me off that whenever Trent sings a song straight out-- no talk-singing, no screaming-- it seems like he always tries to bury it under the production. RWIB has that annoying filter thing going on, ITT has all that crashing and banging distracting from the singing, LITS is recorded at a stupidly low volume compared to the rest of the album, etc.

    Of course, finally with Everything he's put his voice front and center, only I'm not crazy about the song.....

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    Year zero is my favorite album. And i would like to thank josh wink for his noodling on the album, at the beginning and the end.
    Sorry. Ill go away

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    Controversial opinion- I like the flip flop flip flop flip line. A lot.

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    Liking The Slip is controversial? It's hardly a bad album

    Controversial opinion: I really don't care if we never hear Tapeworm

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdean View Post
    Controversial opinion: I really don't care if we never hear Tapeworm
    You sir, how can I put this politely, are full of shit.
    Last edited by OSLIN; 08-22-2013 at 01:35 PM.

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    I really like Not so pretty now! There. I said it.

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    time to spark some controversy:

    my favorite track from Pretty Hate Machine is Kinda I Want To
    my favorite TDS-era track is The Perfect Drug
    my favorite tracks on WT are The Collector, Getting Smaller (FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP), Sunspots and BYIT
    my favorite track on The Slip is The Four of Us Are Dying
    I love Everything

    you can kill me now

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    I think With Teeth is probably my favorite album. Though at times Year Zero might hold the spot depending on my mood. It's not the greatest album, no. But it was the first new NIN album release I got to experience, so I think that's why I hold it so dearly to me.

    And I love Purest Feeling.

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    NIN is the poor man's Stabbing Westward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick999 View Post
    Controversial opinion- I like the flip flop flip flop flip line. A lot.
    Well, that wouldn't really be a controversial NIN opinion since Trent just used that line as a tribute to Pere Ubu:



    But you are right, "Getting Smaller" is a cool track that deserves some more respect, it's like a NIN's cover of a Pixies song, it was WT's "Everything" (both have been bashed by many fans and this last one sounds like a The Cure's/New Order's cover).


    Last edited by Max Leo; 08-22-2013 at 01:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSLIN View Post
    You sir are, how can I put this politely, full of shit.
    I am ambivalent at best towards MJK's vocals, neither of the songs heard so far have been "wow" for me and the only element of the whole band I'd really want to hear is Atticus' contributions. Which I'm sure he's used since in things like Ghosts

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    @sheepdean
    You sir, were actually being honest.
    I would probably sacrifice a puppy for a chance at hearing it.
    (that was said to be controversial, in no way do I want to harm any puppies)

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    * I am sick to death of Hurt, Head Like a Hole, Gave Up, and Wish.
    * I never really liked Gave Up anyway.
    * Broken is overrated.
    * Starfuckers, Inc. is underrated.
    * I am really kind of bummed about how similar all the setlists have been recently, even if it is just for festivals -- and yes, the Scala one wasn't diverse enough for me either.
    * All backup singers should stop singing, except for Alessandro Cortini, who should sing more.
    * And finally, I miss Aaron North. Not his playing, just him.

    Whew, that felt good.
    Last edited by chroipahtz; 08-22-2013 at 01:50 PM.

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    Shit, i was just joking. Actually getting smaller is one of my least favorite nin songs. And not cause of the flip flop line. It just doesnt do anything for me....except for after the second chorus when that noise slowly fades in....like a foreshadow of BYIT.

    But if i have to be serious about this question, the song that speaks to me the most is the line begins to blur. Every word. The uncertainty and paranoia...its fucking haunting listening to it now, knowing where i was in my life when i heard it. And that crushing drum and bass...just perfect. Fav nin song.

    Also, and all that could have been speaks to me, on a whole other level.

    Fuck wrong thread. My bad
    Last edited by nick999; 08-22-2013 at 01:53 PM. Reason: realized i got threads mixed up

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    Quote Originally Posted by chroipahtz View Post
    * I never really liked Gave Up anyway.
    yes
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    * Starfuckers, Inc. is underrated.
    YES
    Quote Originally Posted by chroipahtz View Post
    * All backup singers should stop singing, except for Alessandro Cortini, who should sing more.
    YES! [edit: I mean, no, Finck should sing too, but Ally should sing louder]
    Quote Originally Posted by chroipahtz View Post
    * And finally, I miss Aaron North. Not his playing, just him.
    YES YES YES!!!

    jesus fuckin christ do I miss Aaron?????? I mean Finckster is the man but GOD Aaron was so fucking awesome. fucking dangerous, man, he could do anything. he broke stuff, he jumped on stuff, he fockin wrecked the shit out of his guitars and amps. that man had some serious balls

    and btw, ever since Live: With Teeth, my fav member (except for Trent of course) was always Ally. I love him on Live: Beside You In Time. plus, his solo stuff as SONOIO made me cry a lot. this dude is my god

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    I could happily do without "Wish" being performed live again. I think it's the "26 years..." line. While I admire the dedication to ferocity and his ability to pull it off, all I can think of is "damn, that was a long time ago... even close to the *same amount of time* ago!"

    And yet I'll never tire of Gave Up, which usually pairs with Wish to bookend a respite in the set to riotous effect.

    It's a First World NIN problem, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hani View Post
    his solo stuff as SONOIO made me cry a lot. this dude is my god
    It's so good. It's so fucking good. Listen to modwheelmood if you haven't, too. Specifically Pearls to Pigs. A better collection of earworms, I've never found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hani View Post
    time to spark some controversy:

    my favorite track from Pretty Hate Machine is Kinda I Want To
    my favorite TDS-era track is The Perfect Drug
    my favorite tracks on WT are The Collector, Getting Smaller (FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP), Sunspots and BYIT
    my favorite track on The Slip is The Four of Us Are Dying
    I love Everything

    you can kill me now
    strongly agree with all of this except i don't like sunspots at all.

    kinda i want to is ONE of my favs off PHM, and the perfect drug is ONE of my favs from TDS era.

    i was listening to the slip yesterday and i had forgotten how much i love the triptych of corona radiata/the four of us are dying/demon seed. probably one of my favorite ending-sections of any NIN release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    ...i love the triptych of corona radiata/the four of us are dying/demon seed. probably one of my favorite ending-sections of any NIN release.
    Agreed, and that's kind of how I feel about With Teeth. That album is rather scattered and myopic but TLBTB / BYIT / RWIB trifecta really make a strong close. Seems like ALL of NIN's post-Fragile era albums have stronger finishes than builds, now that I think about it... the conclusion to YZ is rather poignant and pointed compared to that album's earlier meandering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    strongly agree with all of this except i don't like sunspots at all.

    kinda i want to is ONE of my favs off PHM, and the perfect drug is ONE of my favs from TDS era.

    i was listening to the slip yesterday and i had forgotten how much i love the triptych of corona radiata/the four of us are dying/demon seed. probably one of my favorite ending-sections of any NIN release.
    Isnt lights in the sky part of that combo? I mean, it fades right into corona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OSLIN View Post
    NIN is the poor man's Stabbing Westward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick999 View Post
    Isnt lights in the sky part of that combo? I mean, it fades right into corona.
    technically, yes, but it's my least-favorite song on the slip. (yes, i like 999,999 more than lights in the sky)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chroipahtz View Post
    It's so good. It's so fucking good. Listen to modwheelmood if you haven't, too. Specifically Pearls to Pigs. A better collection of earworms, I've never found.
    oooh yes, Pearls to Pigs is awesome. I usually sing Problem Me when in the shower

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    -Starfuckers is fine where it is. Should be a setlist regular again.
    -Deep fucking rules and always has
    -So does Where Is Everybody?
    -So does The Collector
    -The Slip would have made a way better EP
    -I don't know if it's tasteless, but I would really like to hear 'Just Do it' some day if it was ever recorded at all. And, of course, 'The Beauty of the Drug'.
    -Gave Up should be retired from setlists.
    -Sunspots is average.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hani View Post
    oooh yes, Pearls to Pigs is awesome. I usually sing Problem Me when in the shower
    Sounds like a personal problem

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