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    Quote Originally Posted by marodi View Post
    -Wasn't the Wall built so it could stop the menace frond beyond? Why the rush to form an army to fight the White Walkers in they were not supposed to be able to pass the Wall? It's not as if that Wall was at risk of coming down, right? And magic was preventing the dead to pass anyway (which is why Uncle Benjen could not come back), right? RIGHT? And no one South of the Wall knew that the Night King has gotten himself a cool blue fire breathing undead dragon, right?
    A few points on the Wall.
    • Nobody in the Seven Kingdoms (except maybe Bran) knows for sure whether there's any magical protection in the Wall.
    • Any magic wards the Wall might once have contained may have been nullified anyway when Bran passed through wearing the Night King's mark (remember what happened at the Three-Eyed Raven's werewood tree). But regardless, the Wall apparently never had any magic to protect it against wights - we see them taken through the Wall and reanimate on the other side. So even if the White Walkers themselves couldn't get through, they could still send the world's largest army over, around or through it.
    • The wights are fairly co-ordinated, so it's plausible that they might eventually have attacked the Wall using mammoths, giants and battering rams in a similar manner to how the Wildlings did. Or simply walked around it over the sea ice that's likely to eventually form. If the Wall could stop them on its own, there would never have been a need for a Night's Watch.


    One way or another, the army of the dead was eventually going to reach the Seven Kingdoms. What nobody realised is that the Night King had anticipated the dragons arriving, and was seemingly waiting for a chance to add them to the army before launching the invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    I've been feeling this way a long time because of Dany's entire storyline, and now with the wall, it's pretty much confirmed my take on this....

    The dragons are lazy and a shame.

    "What the fuck is he talking about??" you're asking yourself.

    Here's the thing: the whole series is amazingly complex. GRRM has created this massive world with tons of characters, puzzles and riddles to solve, backstabbing, scheming, plotting, etc. There are so many moving pieces and so much going on; it's what makes the series special. So to just go "Oh, Dany's in charge cuz her dragons can burn shit" and "haha now the dead are here cuz their dragon broke the wall", it just feels so lazy and anticlimactic to me. Thousands and thousands of pages full of intricate detail and the overall takeaway is "because dragons". It just feels too simple; like everything else that was linked together is now just background to one piece of brute force. I mean...not that I'm comparing the depth of these two series, but imagine if freakin' Harry Potter just stumbled upon the Elder Wand one day and knocked off Voldemort in one shot.

    I'll probably get facepalmed for this post, but so be it. From a visual perspective, the whole "dragon SMASH" thing is pretty cool. Major, major credit to all involved in the VFX departments on this show; they've done an amazing job with it. But from a story perspective...it feels thin.
    I've been reading a lot of these types of criticisms, especially in regard to the ways in which LF and Varys have been treated lately as characters. But I have to ask - what did you guys expect? I feel like it's been obvious for many years that this entire story was about a Kingdom of people politicking and scheming while unwinnable war against an unambiguous evil was brewing quietly in the background. This is the end game. There is so little room left for politics. We've transitioned into fantasy. This was always going to happen, the NK was always going to get the dragon, the ink has dried.

    So it doesn't just feel that way - everything else linked together was nothing more than background to one giant brute force.

    It sounds like you want a solely Middle Ages politics story and there is no shortage of those. But if you want to enjoy Game of Thrones I feel like you have to enjoy the fact that this is what everything has come down to.

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    I waited so long for that sex scene and it was so meh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    I waited so long for that sex scene and it was so meh.


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    My favorite part was the intercut scene of encyclopedic explaining of how what we were seeing was legitimized incest

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    Quote Originally Posted by kleiner352 View Post
    My favorite part was the intercut scene of encyclopedic explaining of how what we were seeing was legitimized incest
    They really wanted to drive that home

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    Max Landis (screenwriter/showrunner of Dirk Gently/comic book writer) is killing it on twitter with his GoT jokes and is doing fake dialogue


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    Max landis sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conan The Barbarian View Post
    Max landis sucks
    Agreed. He's such a chode.

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    Spoiler alert


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    Quote Originally Posted by Conan The Barbarian View Post
    Max landis sucks
    He's a rapist.

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    I can't believe we have to wait until 2019. That sucks on so many levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepvoid View Post
    I can't believe we have to wait until 2019. That sucks on so many levels.
    Has this been confirmed? I've been reading Summer 2018 everywhere. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIN64 View Post
    Has this been confirmed? I've been reading Summer 2018 everywhere. . .
    Vox is saying 2019: https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/8/2...-released-2019
    Vanity Fair says maybe summer 2018 but most likely 2019: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...s-who-is-in-it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deepvoid View Post
    Vox is saying 2019: https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/8/2...-released-2019
    Vanity Fair says maybe summer 2018 but most likely 2019: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...s-who-is-in-it
    Bummer. . . I hope the rumors of feature length episodes is true at least. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Seaward View Post
    I've been reading a lot of these types of criticisms, especially in regard to the ways in which LF and Varys have been treated lately as characters. But I have to ask - what did you guys expect? I feel like it's been obvious for many years that this entire story was about a Kingdom of people politicking and scheming while unwinnable war against an unambiguous evil was brewing quietly in the background. This is the end game. There is so little room left for politics. We've transitioned into fantasy. This was always going to happen, the NK was always going to get the dragon, the ink has dried.
    I've often wondered if this is part of the reason Martin's taking so long to finish the remaining books, having had the general idea of the ending this whole time actually taking the time to write it has to be the boring part since it's pretty straigtforward with all the clues that have been laid previously.

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    How do you answer these chargers . . . Spoiler: Lord Baelish?


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    I've been waiting for his reaction to become a gif actually, it was great

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    just wanted to check to make sure that someone I respect wasn't that awful in his commentary...

    While you may be related by blood to another Landis, you, Max, suck. SHAME.

    Also, you've made nothing near the substance of Game of Thrones, to the point where it'd be hyperbolic to make a comparison point, so shut the fuck up.

    but, for clarification via wikipedia, "Landis is a fan of pro wrestling and of Pro Wrestling Guerrilla. He is also an outspoken fan of pop artist Carly Rae Jepsen, with an essay on an analysis of her songs in the works."

    Cool.

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    Hey, don't disparage PWG, please. Max is a douchedrinker for sure but not all wrestling fans are like him.

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    It is official... no GoT until 2019...
    http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/91...urn-until-2019

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    I feel like the wait for season seven took forever and just like that it was already over. Six feature length episodes (90-120 minutes, I assume?) should be sufficient to make up for the fact that they're shortening the amount of episodes when compared to previous seasons. I'm also speculating we won't be getting it until Summer 2019, around the two year mark since season seven and in the same way those episodes were pushed back from the usual spring premiere to July. I'll also bet money that the finale to Game of Thrones will debut and play out and conclude and we still won't have any clue when Winds of Winter is getting published, lol. And so my waiting begins, again.

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    Without getting too much into it, over the holidays I was in the hospital and when I got out I was still in very bad shape. Needless to say I was bedridden, I never watched Game Of Thrones I really wasn't into that kind of fantasy stories. I was beginning to get tired of the people in my life asking "How come you don't watch Game Of Thrones?". So I binge watched that shit, all seven seasons.
    Now, I am into it, now I get all the jokes I never got because now I understand the jokes. Arya Stark is my favorite character she is a badass. I thought the actress that played Rob Stark's wife was gorgeous.
    Then I find out I have to wait until 2019 to find out what happens next.

    I have one question, How do you guys wait so long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sister Midnight View Post

    I have one question, How do you guys wait so long?
    Well, it involves a lot of bitching and whining. Also, it involves compulsively checking if GRR Martin has finally, finally finished writing The Winds of Winter and if it's going to be published any time soon.

    And when we learn that it's not, there's a lot of bitching and whining at GRR Martin.

    There's also checking out Kit Harington's facial hair and haircut for clues.

    But mostly bitching and whining is the key.

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