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Faceplams: It's to show that both her and Thor have the same eyelashes....Originally Posted by eversonpoe
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It's to show that both her and Thor have the same eyelashes....
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The Avengers done.
Really liked Agent Coulson on hold with Black Widow.
The first scene with Steve being the same as the end credits of Captain America was a nice integration, showing the timeline better.
Pepper was better in this than both Iron Man and Iron Man 2.
Agent Hill is a nice addition.
Loki's "I'm listening..." was great.
It was also nice to note how Banner reacted to Loki being escorted aboard... showing him to be more affected by enchantments/magic.
Galaga foreshadowing the army from space (pew pew pew)
Thor vs. Hulk in the hanger was cool.
"Target angry! Target angry!!!"
"Son, you have a condition..."
Hulk punching Thor in the train station was funny
*grabs leg* *thrash* *splat* *thud* *whack whack* "Puny god" was great.
I like how everyone's character evolved in it (although, perhaps the most interesting that Hawkeye ever gets is when he's under Loki's control...).
*AND* I had shawarma today for lunch. Ha!
And the "Item 47" one-shot is interesting... Agent Sitwell tries to be Coulson (poor Coulson... I hear Taihiti is a magical place). Sets up the first Spider-man movie a little bit...
I can see the point of a Black Widow movie but not of a Loki TV show.
Last edited by MrLobster; 09-06-2020 at 09:09 PM.
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I think Hawkeye gets way more interesting as time goes on.
But the 1st Avengers will always be my fav.
Fav origin story is Iron Man 1
Fav story/ movie arc is Captain America
Fingers crossed that Black Panther 2 has Shuri taking the mantle rather than re-casting Chadwick Boseman.
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I guess I'll find out soon enough...
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Winter Soldier/Infinity War/Endgame might be better films, but the thing about that first Avengers movie is that while you're watching it & they're just hitting it out of the park left & right, and then when its over...that feeling of "holy F they actually, finally did it", was just the absolute best. To see all those other movies culminate so successfully for the first time with Avengers....that was so cool at the time.
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I see this the other way around.
Loki series definitely has a reason to exist but I said a few pages back, Black Widow better bring something else to the table besides a predictable premise I am getting from the trailers because it should have come out years ago. I am ALL for her getting her own film (Kind of ridiculous what they had to go through to get this greenlit) just want more than "Ok.. This went on during this time, end story, move on to series and Eternals."
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To me, the Loki character isn't one that needs exploring... he's a bad guy doing bad guy things. Sure, Hiddleston has charisma to burn as the character but he's still a villain.
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I disagree. All the audience really knows is what he went through when he was younger and constantly living in Thor's shadow. Loki always has an ulterior motive, so to see what he will do with an Infinity Stone in an alternate timeline? He never achieved what he was sought after and he also has history the casual audience knows nothing about like him being born in Jotunheim and barely knowing he was a son of a frost giant. Like, there is so much more beef to his background that they can venture into. He is also a anti-hero, not just some mindless villain.
I agree that Black Widow needs a little more exploring, but it all comes down to how that is executed in the film coming up; I'm honestly not expecting much from it. We have received a lot of Loki and Black Widow respectfully, but there is much more to Loki from the films than him just being bad.
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Iron Man 3 down, lots of comedy in the movie...
I think that the many suits, aside from being a byproduct of trauma, were inspired a bit by the Hammerdrones.
Trauma Tony and his maladapting ways... and finding renewed self-confidence by not relying on the suits to get the job done.
Rhodes and Tony had a good time...
I liked the Trevor-Mandarin and you know, with Killian taking credit for "being the Mandarin" I think just refers to his adoption of the character for his plots (and the follow up one-shot "All Hail the King" clarifies that Killian was not the true Mandarin).
Pepper was good.
I really liked Savin the villain, James Badge Dale who portrayed him did great (I had only known him from the TV show "Rubicon" previously).
That air rescue scene and the sudden end.... great timing.
And while I do like the movie, I highly recommend checking out the Marvel Knights Animation series "Iron Man: Extremis" as well
I recognized one of the Extremis Soldiers as having a big role in the second season of Iron Fist as Chen Wu (he has notable facial features)... that was neat. I like the way that Marvel re-uses actors (Evner Gjokaj being another).
The post-credits scene was a chef'skiss to wrap up that trilogy nicely. And the post-movie montage of the primary characters was great too.
The "Agent Carter" one-shot was a nice reminder that yes, she is important and a badass... (and popular enough on the strength of this one-shot to get two seasons of a quality TV show)... and I think this is where the one-shots going into the next feature fails. Well, if I count the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. series, then sure, maybe... kinda... I mean, S.H.I.E.L.D. does clean up after the Malekith battle. But no, that's a stretch.
"Honestly I hate working here, they are so weird..."
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Thanos and Loki being exceptions, villains are woefully underused in the MCU. The vast majority are one and done and some of them could easily be fleshed out and given more personality. The first one that comes to mind is Killmonger. (I may be biased because I adore Michael B. Jordan.) If / when they introduce Dr. Doom, I hope he gets a standalone.
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And that's pretty much why I don't think we need a Loki show. Sure, maybe knowing more of him might be interesting but does it really add more to his character more than the six movies he's been in? Same sort of deal with Thanos, we know what his motivations were/are.
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We may not need one, but I sure as hell want one.
I think we will definitely get more focus on villains once more are implemented for the future phases. That was one major flaw from most MCU films (Obviously) that I really hope they work on more. Imo, depending on how it is executed, getting more background on a character is always a plus, but I see where you are coming from.
Killmonger and Zemo did it best.
Last edited by Self.Destructive.Pattern; 09-08-2020 at 07:37 PM.
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This is why there should be more One-Shots...
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This is why there should be more One-Shots.... I think that series is severely under looked at the moment. Many had no idea what it was when it was revealed. REALLY hope they give us some of the goods with it and it expands to fans that are new to it!
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The fact that just about every actor will be reprising their respective roles will make What If...? much more enticing to the average person or fair-weather fan. Especially if Chadwick Boseman was able to finish recording his lines for the episode centering on Black Panther. Hayley Atwell said back in August of 2019 that she was in the process of recording her lines, so maybe there's hope?
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Thor: The Dark World ... well, I like it more than the first Thor. While Thor was a nice introduction to the characters, I feel that The Dark World is a better overall story.
It was nice seeing the development of the other Asgardians as well, Sif, Heimdall, etc.
As well as the rest of the returning cast, Darcy and Selvig... and Ian was a nice addition (even if just to make Darcy happier).
Loki and Thor together were still good chemistry.
the mid-credits scene continues the ball rolling from the post-credits from The Avengers... and the post-credits scene was "Awww, that's nice."
And of course, the one-shot moves The Mandarin plot along (and I would like to see more of the Ten Rings) (and nice to see another re-used Marvel actor in it as well, Matt Gerald as "White Power Dave"... and then in Daredevil as "Melvin Potter").
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I actually did a MCU run through a few months ago, and it was the first time I had seen the Dark World, which was better than I expected. It's also one of the only MCU movies I've seen after reading the relevant comics, and I'll say that, keeping with mcu's villain problem, they completely fucked up malaketh
They sucked all of the personality out of that character.
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i still feel like eccleston did as good of a job as he could with it, though. i adore him in general and it was fun to see him as a villain.
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Captain America: The Winter Soldier done. One of my favourite MCU movies. The action, the comedy, the characters... they all work for me.
Upon reflection, I really like the way that Iron Man 3 and Winter Soldier were integrated into Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D..
Falcon and Cap work well together.
They set up Rumlow to be much bigger than he turns out to be (I felt that he was wasted in Civil War... just like a lot of villains. Like Zola, Strucker, Zemo... at least Batroc is still alive)
Sitwell got what he deserved...
Agent 13 is a nice addition.
Agent Hill was still good.
Poor Peggy.
Poor Bucky.
The first Winter Soldier/Captain America fight that started on the bridge... a nice team building exercise.
"Was he wearing a parachute?"
"No. No he wasn't."
"It kinda feels personal."
"Public displays of affection make people uncomfortable..."
"I'm 95, not dead."
"Don't look at me, I do what he does only slower."
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Guardian Of The Galaxy, hmmm... I hesitate to write this but I like most everything about the movie except for Star-Lord. I don't know if it's Pratt's portrayal or the character himself, but he just doesn't connect with me... and that drags down the rest of the movie. Is it bad? No. But it's one where I'd put it on as background noise instead of paying attention to it for future casual viewings. I like the contribution to the larger Infinity Stones story.
When Groot cleared that hallway on the Dark Aster was great.
I still like Yandu.
"You're! Making! Me! Beat! Up! Grass!"
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chris pratt completely ruined any of his roles for me. i've been wanting to rewatch parks and rec but knowing how much of a piece of shit he is in real life makes it really hard for me to look past that and just focus on the character.
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what?
*fingers in ears*
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Guardians Of The Galaxy: Vol. 2 ... well, it's a much better movie overall than the first one.
I still think that 8 year old Peter should not have know who Jackson Pollack was and was able to use it as a reference to just how icky his ship was to Gomora in the first movie.
I like how everyone, uh, grew, as characters. More Drax (and tether Drax) was funny. Rocket got a lot more interesting. Even Groot... to a certain degree. I still don't like Star-Lord but he did mature a bit... so, there's that.
It was good to see Howard no longer in captivity by The Collector.
Ego definitely lives up to his name (and Russell did good in the role).
Mantis and Drax were good together.
Nebula... oh Nebula. You need two hugs.
That "tardigrad" ship was cute.
Yandu still rocked, and his death was sad but the ceremony was beautiful.
I wonder what Adam is going to develop as, my theory when I first watched it was Adam Warlock (even if the origin story didn't fit) and we'd see more during the Infinity Wars movies... but no... so... maybe in Vol. 3 (this could be explained in the comics but I'm familiar with them).
“You just need to find a woman as pathetic as you.”
“Right, he didn't steal some of those, I don’t know why they are after us, what a mystery this is.”.
*takes a bites; spits it out* “It’s not ripe.”
“It was beautiful. You Earthers have hang-ups.”
“Your name is… is Taserface?”
“Yeeeah… I was talking about a pretty neckless… or a nice hat. Something to make the other girls go ‘Ooo, that’s nice.’ Anyways, happy trails.”
“No Jeff, it’s too adorable to kill. Take it to the tailor."
“I’m Mary Poppins y’all!”
Last edited by MrLobster; 09-12-2020 at 01:22 AM.
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^^^ I fucking love Yandu! The Mary Poppins line is one of my favorites ever in a film.
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I can not differ more on the two guardians movies. I don't even care about the second one. The first one is debatably the best movie in the MCU. I would argue that infinity war/end game made a much better sequel. Just so much exposition in the second one. And I didn't like the way they separated every one
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Avengers: Age of Ultron (subtitle; Ultron goes on a Vision quest)
Natasha and Bruce are cute.
The Mjolnir scene is still fun and Thor's expression when Steve nudges it.
Pietro Maximoff grabbing the Mojner in Klaue's ship was a nice laugh.
Natasha’s worst nightmare, it was nice to see some more of her history.
It’s nice that Barton has a family… and he his snark did grow on me a bit.
I liked Thor's vision when he goes to the Water of Sight, the Infinity Stones in the nebula “glove” was cool.
Black Widow on the motorcycle and putting Cap's shield up front.
I like the more international flavour of the movie as well.
Nice foreshadowing of Civil War, Black Panther and Thor: Ragnarok
Vision picking up Mjolnir...
I like Wanda.
“Language.”
“It was a good talk." ‘“No it wasn’t.”
“Excelsior….”
“Only when we create a murderbot.”
“Cuttlefish…”
“Fortunately I am mighty.”
“Dick move Banner.”
Hulkbuster punches “Go to sleep go to sleep go to sleep” *spits out tooth* “I’m sorry.”
“Oooh, I’m decrypting nuclear codes and you don’t want me tooooooo….”
“Sokovia is going for a ride.”
“Are you up for this? Are you? Look I just need to know because the city of flying. Okay, the city is flying. We’re fighting an army of robots. And I have a bow and arrow. None of this makes sense.”
Last edited by MrLobster; 09-13-2020 at 05:33 AM.
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I'll never forget the line in age of Ultron where Black Widow claims she's "also a monster" to Hulk, because she's infertile. There's a lot microagtessive bigotry in the MCU, but that one is pretty profound
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I think that has to due with her regrets for volunteering for the procedure and all the death she inflicted after that as a master assassin/S.H.I.E.L.D. agent and not simply because she just can't have kids.
Last edited by MrLobster; 09-14-2020 at 02:23 AM.
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but you have to remember that joss whedon wrote it and his views on women became...pretty fucked up at a certain point. the so-called champion for women in the realm of nerd-dom started treating his women characters (and the women around him in real life!) like trash for one reason or another. he very wrongly fired charisma carpenter from angel...for getting pregnant. but then he sees a character who can't have children as a monster? i'm with @Wretchedest — it was a very thinly veiled jab.
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Maybe it was (and unless he specifically clarifies it as such ... but being a shitforbrains, unless it's done in his post-death memoirs where it won't affect any potential earnings, he probably won't) and maybe it wasn't.
I take within the context of her character and that's it (that is to say, I don't think it was out of character for her to say it, regardless of shitforbrains intention).
Last edited by MrLobster; 09-13-2020 at 11:01 AM.
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