halo twenty eight. hesitation marks. 09.03.2013

[Kyle]

Actually, we're just 2 weeks away from the earliest release date in the world. So let's just move past that argument. And let's start a pool on when we think it will leak or stream, whichever you think will come first.

I say a leak will happen on Tuesday, August 27th.

Leak will definitely be first, but the stream will be so quickly thereafter that to most people who don't pay super close attention to those kind of things, it will seem like the stream is first. That's pretty much the way it is in modern music. I don't think the artists want to stream the record early, they want you to hear it the way it was meant to be heard (the date has nothing to do with the "way it was meant to be heard," just to clarify - but the experience, with the album and artwork and your stereo setup of choice, etc.). But the reality is that things almost always get leaked so the stream is a response to the leak and they have the stream all ready to go for when that time inevitably comes.

At least, that's my understanding of how it works. And now you just read it on the internet (courtesy of me) so it must be true.

[Ryan]

It's a little early for a stream, the album doesn't even come out for 2 and a half weeks.

lol, Numan's album doesn't come out til October 14 and it was put online to download today.

[Kyle]

By TPG do you mean TPD? I'm not trying to be snarky. I'm just racking my brain trying to figure out what TPG is.

[gorast]

I wasn't worried about an HM leak because ETS's server wasn't busy, it seemed like the whole site was down, which I don't think would happen from an overload of traffic. (At least, I'm pretty sure - I don't have any idea what I'm talking about honestly)

[ComradeCornhole]

I'm really saying they should just go ahead and release the summamabitch! I don't see any real benefit to holding out so long.

[NIN64]

I have a strong psychic belief...that the album...will leak...this weekend...

[thevoid99]

I have a strong psychic belief...that the album...will leak...this weekend...

You'd better be right or I'm going to kick your ass.

[Frozen Beach]

I hope when it leaks, it's watermarked with Trent occasionally screaming "FISTFUCK" every few minutes.

[nineismine]

I hope when it leaks, it's watermarked with Trent occasionally screaming "FISTFUCK" every few minutes.

If it isn't im kicking trents ass!!!

[thefragile_jake]

I figured something happened with the leak today, Trent put a meme picture up on Instagram of the quote "Some People Are Cunts" next to Cat in the Hat and the ETS servers were like crazy down when I got home from work....I had dinner plans after work so I was all bummed that I was missing out on some fun!

Also, that crash had me refreshing hasitleaked constantly. GAH.

Same here!

I think the record is being hyped pretty well, I mean shit...as far as social media trends go, "Copy of A" was trending this week. That's pretty great! I think the only record this year that was truly HYPED was Daft Punk's album...and there was so much of that going on that people either got sick of it or expectations were incredibly high.

I'm sure if a video for "Everything" comes out, we'll see some more NIN talk too...

[simonn]

I think the only record this year that was truly HYPED was Daft Punk's album...and there was so much of that going on that people either got sick of it or expectations were incredibly high.

I'd say QOTSA's album was pretty hyped too with all the videos etc beforehand, lots of song snippets around prior to the album coming out, televised live performances of a third of the album prior to release.

I personally see the video being for Copy of A, as it's just been released as a single, but then I don't really understand singles these days! I want b-sides too!!

[ComradeCornhole]

COME OOOONNNNN. I NEED THE TRACKS, MAAAAN! By this weekend would be stellar. Seriously. You've got probably a hundred thousand preorders. Cough it up, bitches.

[snaapz]

Wow. Lot's of advertising today on several sites I go to. I know my browsing history and favourites flag me as a NIN fan... but wow. Youtube especially.

[butter_hole]

Hesitation Marks is being distributed by Columbia. As was Welcome oblivion and the new Daft Punk album.

Both were streamed before a leak was able to happen. Something happened with the Daft Punk album where it was accidentally put up in a downloadable state, on iTunes, ahead of time, but it still was only streamed before any form of CD rip came along, as well as Welcome oblivion. Stream rips floated around but a proper CD release came later.

I doubt they're going to go the Pitchfork Advance route with Hesitation Marks because NIN is too big a name for it. They'll probably do a iTunes stream, just like Daft Punk and other bands such as Foo Fighters and the Red Hot Chili Peppers have done.

That'll probably be... August 25? I wouldn't expect anything before then.

But, the album is out in Europe and Australia on the 30th, so someone might cop a copy of it early next week, or clean label promos might start going out.

TL;DR: Wait another week you pussies.

[tw3rbz]

Hesitation Marks is being distributed by Columbia. As was Welcome oblivion and the new Daft Punk album.

Both were streamed before a leak was able to happen. Something happened with the Daft Punk album where it was accidentally put up in a downloadable state, on iTunes, ahead of time, but it still was only streamed before any form of CD rip came along, as well as Welcome oblivion. Stream rips floated around but a proper CD release came later.

I doubt they're going to go the Pitchfork Advance route with Hesitation Marks because NIN is too big a name for it. They'll probably do a iTunes stream, just like Daft Punk and other bands such as Foo Fighters and the Red Hot Chili Peppers have done.

That'll probably be... August 25? I wouldn't expect anything before then.

But, the album is out in Europe and Australia on the 30th, so someone might cop a copy of it early next week, or clean label promos might start going out.

TL;DR: Wait another week you pussies.

But I don't wanna! D:

[Kyle]

Also if it's being released in other countries on the 30th, then it will definitely be on the internet before Made in America, so there's still the chance of an extra song or two making it's way into the setlist. I won't be expecting it, but I won't be completely shocked if it happens either.

[Kyle]

Hesitation Marks is being distributed by Columbia. As was Welcome oblivion and the new Daft Punk album.

Both were streamed before a leak was able to happen. Something happened with the Daft Punk album where it was accidentally put up in a downloadable state, on iTunes, ahead of time, but it still was only streamed before any form of CD rip came along, as well as Welcome oblivion. Stream rips floated around but a proper CD release came later.

I doubt they're going to go the Pitchfork Advance route with Hesitation Marks because NIN is too big a name for it. They'll probably do a iTunes stream, just like Daft Punk and other bands such as Foo Fighters and the Red Hot Chili Peppers have done.

That'll probably be... August 25? I wouldn't expect anything before then.

But, the album is out in Europe and Australia on the 30th, so someone might cop a copy of it early next week, or clean label promos might start going out.

TL;DR: Wait another week you pussies.

You learn something new everyday. I thought the HTDA stream was in response to a leak. Either way, if leaks weren't so common place, I still don't think it would have happened.

[JessicaSarahS]

You learn something new everyday. I thought the HTDA stream was in response to a leak. Either way, if leaks weren't so common place, I still don't think it would have happened.

Yeah, I thought it was leaked too, then the streams came after.

[Amaro]

Hesitation Marks is being distributed by Columbia. As was Welcome oblivion and the new Daft Punk album.

Both were streamed before a leak was able to happen. Something happened with the Daft Punk album where it was accidentally put up in a downloadable state, on iTunes, ahead of time, but it still was only streamed before any form of CD rip came along, as well as Welcome oblivion. Stream rips floated around but a proper CD release came later.

I doubt they're going to go the Pitchfork Advance route with Hesitation Marks because NIN is too big a name for it. They'll probably do a iTunes stream, just like Daft Punk and other bands such as Foo Fighters and the Red Hot Chili Peppers have done.

That'll probably be... August 25? I wouldn't expect anything before then.

But, the album is out in Europe and Australia on the 30th, so someone might cop a copy of it early next week, or clean label promos might start going out.

TL;DR: Wait another week you pussies.

In the words of Dennis Reynolds--I can jump on board with that!

[binaryhermit]

I'd expect the stream to go up either the 20th or more likely the 27th.
EDIT: Unless it leaks first, in which case it'll go up almost immediately after the leak. Though it seems many leaks are actually just stream rips these days.

[Kyle]

Well, I for one, keep checking every time I go into a store that sells CDs. Unlikely, but worth the look. Of course, if I found it, I wouldn't want to be known as the guy who leaked it, so I would just taunt you with it....

[Ryan]

Of course, if I found it, I wouldn't want to be known as the guy who leaked it

Why not? I would!

[Kyle]

Why not? I would!

Two reasons.
1. I get the strong feeling that Trent would rather the album not be leaked and have people experience it with the CD, artwork, etc. And since I have a lot of respect for the man, I'd rather not go against his wishes with his work.
2. While it's rare, it's not completely impossible that if the RIAA wants to make a case of something, the guy who initially uploaded something is the guy who gets in the shitton of trouble. Very rare and unlikely to be sure, but still not worth the risk if I already have the CD anyway and you don't.

None of that is worth the fleeting thrill of internet fame.

[danebraddy]

... BRkn, Fxd,CTGod ... WithaT, Tslip, GHST ... CopA, FMway, Disap

Whoever taught you how to abbreviate things should apologise to everyone here.

Go get them. We'll wait.

[Wretchedest]

You all suck.

I had manage to forget that this was coming out soon. I totally thought it was too far to worry about.

With all this leak begging... now I'm checking for it constantly and hoping it comes out before my coming road trip.

My serenity has been disrupted.

[Ryan]

We offer our sincere apologies and wish you a happy listening experience when it does take a leak.

[Kyle]

Serenity now!

(pretend that was written in all caps since apparently ETS auto corrects shouting)

[myrdd79]

I'm just a copy of a puppy I like coffee...


This gets stuck in my head

[my voice just]

I'm just a copy of a puppy I like coffee...

and i can`t stop myself from keep hearing:

Why all the change of heart? You need a pa-per

go listen, it`s just there

[Amaro]

and i can`t stop myself from keep hearing:

Why all the change of heart? You need a pa-per

go listen, it`s just there

haha Good one. I couldn't help but focus on that line a lot more lately...because its sound.

Though I knew better, I was hearing "You need to play your pun."