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    My review of the Bush/Stone Temple Pilots/The Cult show in Boston:

    Bush went on first for this show (they rotate). I was probably least looking forward to their set as I've already seen them multiple times, but as soon as they hit the stage I remembered what a good show they put on. Each band only had one hour and as Bush had no new album to support, they just stuck to the hits, playing all their big singles from the 90's ("Comedown," "Everything Zen," "Machine Head," "Swallowed," etc.) with a few post-reunion songs. Back in the day people knocked them for being a second-rate Nirvana and derivative, but man, those songs are good. It was a fun, nostalgic trip down memory lane, taking me right back to my Freshman year of High School. Gavin Rossdale (who stopped aging after 1999) was in fine form, hasn't lost anything as a singer and really knows how to work a crowd. He ran right past me and always seems to work off the crowd. Bush probably put on the best show of the three acts.

    Stone Temple Pilots went on next. I had real mixed feelings about their set. The band sounded great, they have the goods (their songs are as good as anything that was on the radio in the 1990's IMHO), and new singer Jeff Gutt has the chops to sing all the classics--that said, I felt that Gutt was trying way too hard to ape Scott Weiland. Not only does Gutt sound a lot like Weiland, now he dresses like him, copies his moves, has a similar hair style, etc. It was a bizarre experience watching STP. I know that Scott is dead, but there he apparently is, alive and well, playing with STP, as though the last five years never happened. I like Jeff Gutt, he's a good singer, a good fit for STP and I really like their new album, but I think Gutt should just try to be himself and not try to mimic his deceased predecessor. When Chester Bennington sang with them, he brought his own unique style to the band (okay, he sort of tried to look like Scott, but not nearly to the extent as Gutt). They didn't play any deep cuts, just the big hits from the first four albums and two new songs. Whatever concerns I had, the crowd loved them and they probably got the best response of the three headliners. So while I found STP's set to be a little ghoulish (for lack of a better word), I still enjoyed their set.

    The Cult went on last and they were sort of the odd band on the bill. Bush and STP co-headlining makes sense--they were popular around the same time and have an overlapping fanbase. The Cult were never as big as the other two acts and precede them by a decade. Plus, I tend to think of STP and Bush as 90's alt. rock and The Cult as more of a metal band. By the time to Cult hit the stage it was 9:45 and people seemed to be getting a little tired. The Cult still rocked the crowd and Ian Astbury, who is 56, sounds great. He wasn't as energetic as Rossdale or Gutt, but he hasn't lost his pipes and still seems to have the same vocal ability as he did 20-30 years ago. I first saw Astbury when he sang with The Doors (of the 21st Century) and you could hear/see a clear Jim Morrison influence. You could kind of tell who in the audience was there to see Bush and STP and who was there for The Cult. The Bush/STP crowd were the late 30/40 somethings with smartphones and the Cult people were the 50-somethings with bandanas and chains. Still, all three acts got a warm response and everyone seemed to enjoy all three sets.

    Opening act Julian K (an offshoot of Orgy) were alright, but sort of generic.
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    I've been enjoying the return of STP, the excellent new album and the bizarre, but enjoyable show I saw. That said, I do miss the great Scott Weiland. Songs like "Still Remains," "Plush," "Lady Picture Show," etc. Just really great songs and Scott was awesome. The world goes on, but he is missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    Why on earth do none of the bundles on their website include just the vinyl? All of them include CDs, which I don't need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otnavuskire View Post
    Why on earth do none of the bundles on their website include just the vinyl? All of them include CDs, which I don't need.
    I have no idea what STP's current financial situation is but I have to wonder if CDs were just less expensive than vinyl. I dunno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otnavuskire View Post
    Why on earth do none of the bundles on their website include just the vinyl? All of them include CDs, which I don't need.
    I would like all three CDs and don't even own a turntable, so have no need for the vinyl, but will get that anyway with the deluxe edition.

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    I never knew Scott had a group called The Wondergirls with Troy Van Leeuwen, Martyn LeNoble, and Jay Gordon!

    https://www.alternativenation.net/sc...ge-song-leaks/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ickyvicky View Post
    I never knew Scott had a group called The Wondergirls with Troy Van Leeuwen, Martyn LeNoble, and Jay Gordon!

    https://www.alternativenation.net/sc...ge-song-leaks/
    I hate Alternativenation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post

    Interesting. A few songs from the last album popped on my playlist the other day. Bizarre how similar the new guy sounded to Scott. I wonder if that’ll be the same this time around

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenSpiral View Post
    Interesting. A few songs from the last album popped on my playlist the other day. Bizarre how similar the new guy sounded to Scott. I wonder if that’ll be the same this time around
    Against all odds the Butterfly album was really good. Excited for album #2 with this lineup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenSpiral View Post
    Interesting. A few songs from the last album popped on my playlist the other day. Bizarre how similar the new guy sounded to Scott. I wonder if that’ll be the same this time around
    That's why this band is haunted by that. They refuse to push into new territory and prefer Weiland mimicry vocals. They're effective but it's nothing new and this band is pigeon holed by it.

    They tried something new but Army of Anyone ending up being absolute garbage and mediocre. Then they immediately turned back to STP for a reunion.

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    At this stage in the game they're a legacy act, defined by their first four albums. I get that people think Gutt is a Weiland clone, but he's a professional and sounds and looks good.

    The band played it safe on their last album and did what they needed to do--release a pleasing, well-written album to reestablish themselves. More of the same with a few curveballs for their second album with Gutt is all I'm hoping for.

    Butterfly was really 'effin' good, considering. Need to give that AOA disc another spin. I remember enjoying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ickyvicky View Post
    I never knew Scott had a group called The Wondergirls with Troy Van Leeuwen, Martyn LeNoble, and Jay Gordon!

    https://www.alternativenation.net/sc...ge-song-leaks/



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    Quote Originally Posted by AThousandDaysBefore View Post
    Production isn't great, cool song though. Sounds like something from 12 Bar Blues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RhettButler View Post
    Need to give that AOA disc another spin. I remember enjoying it.
    That album is solid. A really great rock record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muad'nin View Post
    That album is solid. A really great rock record.
    A Filter/STP supergroup would have been a big deal even in 2000. By 2006 the ship had sailed.

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    Why Stone Temple Pilots were one of the best rock acts of the 90's.

    https://web.musicaficionado.com/main...IHHlVKZJe48q8U

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    Scott's wife is broke. Anyone want a hat?
    https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/sc...-hats-on-ebay/

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    New album, Perdida, out 2/7/'20.

    Tour dates:

    February 5th – Vancouver, BC @ Commodore Ballroom
    February 7th – Snoqualmie, WA @ Snoqualmie Casino
    February 8th – Boise, ID @ Knitting Factory
    February 9th – Portland, OR @ Roseland Theater
    February 12th – San Francisco, CA @ Herbst Theatre
    February 13th – Beverly Hills, CA @ Saban Theater
    February 15th – Denver, CO @ Fillmore Auditorium
    February 17th – Kansas City, MO @ Uptown Theater
    February 19th – Milwaukee, WI @ Turner Hall Ballroom
    February 21st – Detroit, MI @ The Fillmore Detroit
    February 22nd – Covington, KY @ Madison Theater
    February 25th – New York, NY @ Gramercy Theatre
    February 27th – Toronto, ON @ Danforth Music Hall
    February 29th – Atlantic City, NJ @ Tropicana
    March 1st – Boston, MA @ The Wilbur Theatre


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    That sounds like a song that would play in smokey bar full of drunk, late aged gen xers in between kid rock and poison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony.parente View Post
    That sounds like a song that would play in smokey bar full of drunk, late aged gen xers in between kid rock and poison.
    Only God knows why, but that that sounds like nothing but a good time.

    New song is pretty good--not great. The band and Jeff Gutt sound good, it has a pretty melody and I like the solo. I'm hoping that the rest of the album is less middle-of-the-road and is a little more ambitious. Looking forward to seeing the tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDukat View Post
    Production isn't great, cool song though. Sounds like something from 12 Bar Blues.

    I never knew about this either. Pure Scott sound here. Also reminds me of “She Mine” from Velvet revolver.

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    Got my ticket for the Boston show! Really looking forward to this!

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    Brand new song:



    Has a Led Zeppelin III kind of vibe.

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    it's really weird how much he sounds like Scott but also doesn't. that's a really good song and a great evolution from a shadow of STP to this new thing.

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    I don’t think he doesn’t sound like Scott. But he sounds a lot like Scott without sounding like he’s TRYING to sound like Scott. It’s really odd some of the vocal choices he makes are VERY Weiland.


    interesting that both new songs are on the mellow side. Wonder if this isn’t going to be much of a rocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenSpiral View Post
    I don’t think he doesn’t sound like Scott. But he sounds a lot like Scott without sounding like he’s TRYING to sound like Scott. It’s really odd some of the vocal choices he makes are VERY Weiland.


    interesting that both new songs are on the mellow side. Wonder if this isn’t going to be much of a rocker.

    It's going to be an acoustic album and tour

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    Well that explains it.

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    New music video for "Fare the Well." While I think "Three Wishes" is a better song, this has grown on me.


    The editing is interesting, how they don't show a lot of Jeff Gutt, apart from his mouth/jaw. If you didn't know Weiland was dead, you might actually think that was him, given Gutt's voice and look.

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