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    Quote Originally Posted by wizfan View Post
    Did you know that the drum beats on Saul Williams' Convict Colony were performed by Dave Grohl? CX Kidtronik says so on his Instagram. I've added this info on the song's NINwiki page.
    I fucking LOVE that Dave Grohl just pops up in NIN history from time to time and plays a direct role in making the music. I wonder if that was recorded for the album or a leftover recording from a previous session that was left on the cutting room floor.

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    Ha! Love that Homme dedicated a song to "THE Nine Inch Nails!" at tonight's Festival Mad Cool concert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karmachiale View Post
    Hi. maybe a dumb question, but... Don't some of you know about books with stories / themes / narratives similar to themes and stuff from NTAE AV BW trilogy? I kind of sink into that, but I am desperate to find things. Thank you for any help!
    Try Ursula Le Guin's The Lathe of Heaven, which TR himself referenced before Bleedthrough wasn't released.

    I also really enjoyed Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age when I read it a few years ago (Snow Crash is also great). This may not be quite what you're after.

    Stepping even further out of the box, Iain M Banks' Use Of Weapons comes to mind.

    There's another one that's interesting too but I can't quite remember it now. Edit: It's The Peripheral ​by William Gibson, which I would highly suggest checking out.

    Basically, look at lists of the best sci-fi dystopian novels. You're sure to find something. The obvious ones are things like Fahrenheit 451, Lord of the Flies, 1984, stuff like that.
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    I'd quite like to see Trent's dance to The Lovers (when the dictaphone is playing) spliced with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=novfcrFVHPM

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizfan View Post
    Did you know that the drum beats on Saul Williams' Convict Colony were performed by Dave Grohl? CX Kidtronik says so on his Instagram. I've added this info on the song's NINwiki page.
    I wonder if there's any other BTS footage from when they were making that album. Would love to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    Try Ursula Le Guin's The Lathe of Heaven, which TR himself referenced before Bleedthrough wasn't released.

    I also really enjoyed Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age when I read it a few years ago (Snow Crash is also great). This may not be quite what you're after.

    Stepping even further out of the box, Iain M Banks' Use Of Weapons comes to mind.

    There's another one that's interesting too but I can't quite remember it now.

    Basically, look at lists of the best sci-fi dystopian novels. You're sure to find something. The obvious ones are things like Fahrenheit 451, Lord of the Flies, 1984, stuff like that.
    I haven't read some of them, so I have something to do. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karmachiale View Post

    Thank you for reply. I know field is pretty wide here and I don't want to give unnecessarily narrow explenation
    . Themes like achieving new perspective, our society's level, simulation, non-importance of things we see importance in, etc. I am actually openminded and interested in possible ways of interpreting of that question. unnecessarily narrow explanation
    i would read some Ursula K Leguin (whose book "the lathe of heaven" was the original inspiration for "bleedthrough", which later became "with teeth", but some of its concepts seem to have made their way into the trilogy)

    edit: @katara beat me to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by karmachiale View Post
    I haven't read some of them, so I have something to do. Thank you.
    No problem!

    Just in case you missed my edit above, the book I couldn't remember is The Peripheral by William Gibson.

    But I'm unsure most of these suggestions truly align themselves with the completely frustrated, disaffected, fragmented state of mind we see in the Trilogy. It's unstable in a way these novels are not.
    I almost feel that there should be a different book for each song.
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    i have seen alot of love for The Lovers, This isn't the Place and The Background World, even Less Than gets some love around here but never read anyone saying nice things about Not Anymore.
    is this a thing? or did i imagine it....

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    You imagined it. There have been a ton of posts praising that song and people wanting to hear it live. I also remember reading posts liking it b/c its the heaviest song of all the new releases.

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    Not Anymore is a great new song and not just because it's so heavy (but that's definitely a plus). Creepy lyrics with a great hook, insane/emotional chorus, NIN exploring new sounds but recalling TDS sound/vibes. Would kick ass live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    I also remember reading posts liking it b/c its the heaviest song of all the new releases.

    “The Idea Of You” would like to have a word with, uhhh, you? I think Shit Mirror is heavier as well. Not Anymore is good though, and a bit on the heavier side.

    Just realized the songs from the Trilogy I like the most arent getting much love. :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    Hasn't been said in a little while, so I thought I'd just remind everyone. Woodstock '94, from the second Larry Bud Melman stops talking (:55 below) to roughly 5 and a half minutes later, is the greatest, most intense NIN intro, and possibly greatest intro any band has had, ever. From the first few moments of blackness & confusion, to when Pinion kicks in and then lurches slower and more and more evil, to when Trent finally emerges on his hands and knees covered in mud & then sarcastically jaunts toward the mic in his Jesus Christ pose...nothing can match it. Arriving like that, on that festival's stage, with the world's focus squarely on them that night of the weekend...made them so intriguing & dangerous.



    And then look at this monster setlist:
    yesssss dude. Dangerous is the word.
    That's what I miss about seeing NIN in 94 and 95, and NIN in general back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobbie solo View Post
    Woodstock '94, ...nothing can match it.
    Yes, always worth bringing up now and again. I'd just got into NIN in the pre-TDS period, but I'm pretty sure it was a ropey VHS copy of this that came from a friend of a friend who had the appropriate cable connections that really cemented my love for the band. Always feel kind of stupid for not actually making it to a 90s NIN show, but there you go... the follies of youth.

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    Woodstock '94 really was something else. This post-gig photo pretty much persuaded me to check out the music of NIN:



    I had no idea what they sounded like, or even which one of them was Trent Reznor. I assumed it was Robin, cause he looked the most like a frontman here. But the implied danger and intensity in that photo roped me in and made me check out a couple of songs, after which there was no return. I still think it's the best photo of any of the live bands.

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    Wasn't Robin working on a solo album like five years ago or so? C'mon man, we need it.
    Jumping a Shit Mirror vocals appreciation bandwagon here.

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    Watching The Lovers live, I noticed that I think there's kind of a musical callback to closer in it.

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    The ending of Not Anymore..... holy fuck

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    Shit Mirror live gets a lot of well-deserved love these days, but one moment from the 2017-2018 touring cycle that I love equally is Trentís scream during Reptile at Panorama.

    Holy fuck, does it sound like heís channeling all his pain into it. Itís not a particularly long or loud scream, but the way his voice breaks is so powerful and intense. It never fails to send shivers down my spine. Thereís so much anger and hurt in that scream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred View Post
    Shit Mirror live gets a lot of well-deserved love these days, but one moment from the 2017-2018 touring cycle that I love equally is Trent’s scream during Reptile at Panorama.

    Holy fuck, does it sound like he’s channeling all his pain into it. It’s not a particularly long or loud scream, but the way his voice breaks is so powerful and intense. It never fails to send shivers down my spine. There’s so much anger and hurt in that scream.
    https://youtu.be/JujihaeDpQ0?t=58m9s

    Yep, this is fucking intense.

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    I think Gary Numan likes NINís version of ďMetalĒ more than his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheddamash View Post
    I think Gary Numan likes NIN’s version of “Metal” more than his own.
    it's more in-line with his current style of music than the original version, for sure. i also prefer the NIN version, but in the context of "the pleasure principle", the original is perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    No problem!

    Just in case you missed my edit above, the book I couldn't remember is The Peripheral by William Gibson.

    But I'm unsure most of these suggestions truly align themselves with the completely frustrated, disaffected, fragmented state of mind we see in the Trilogy. It's unstable in a way these novels are not.
    I almost feel that there should be a different book for each song.
    William Gibson! I totally forgot of him. I read Neoromancer so long ago and never looked up for his other books. Thank you!!

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