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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazy View Post
    If we’re including live shows, the best is probably the extended drawn out version of Pinion that goes into Mr. Self Destruct (1994-1995 TDS tour). That shit gave me goosebumps.
    Ah man, that static right before Mr. Self Destruct, awesome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helpmeiaminhell View Post
    Help Me I Am In Hell into Happiness In Slavery was always lovely
    When they used to do Dead Souls --> Help Me --> Happiness, also awesome.

    I would've loved to hear how they did the 3 part Broken set/encore during that 1995 club tour. Shit, I would've loved to hear anything at all from that tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    Nice. I actually did a video where I added Leaving Hope and The Persistence Of Loss to the end of the film.
    I watched that one yesterday too, well done. It's been 15 years since I've seen the movie had to refresh what the pictures at the end meant. I was originally looking for an EDIETS vs One Hour Photo that I thought existed but ran into those instead.

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    Probably doesn't qualify, but the Paris '09 Illan's birthday 50 cent in da club/closer mix where they roll into Physical was pretty epic.

    Thanks to @ninlive for rejuvenating that memory.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ikranax View Post
    Now I'm Nothing --> Terrible Lie

    If only there was rehearsal audio from 1991. The Closure DVD/Wave Goodbye recordings don't do it justice...
    This performance from the NINJA KC show in '09 is pretty damn epic.


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    The Hate Intro is another good one (and favorite of mine).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekrekel View Post
    Probably doesn't qualify, but the Paris '09 Illan's birthday 50 cent in da club/closer mix where they into Physical was pretty epic.

    Thanks to @ninlive for rejuvenating that memory.

    The cake and frosting flying off his hair when he starts playing is a nice touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    It amazes me how quickly Everything was thrown to the dogs when EDIETS and the second half of All The Love In The World are both extremely poppy, and the latter is loved by seemingly everyone. How is Everything different to these songs?
    The problem isn't that Everything is poppy - I have a huge soft spot for Trent's poppier side (and really a vast majority of NIN's output has a noticeable degree of pop in its DNA). This includes All the Love in the World, which I think is one of the more adventurous openers to a NIN release, but I'm a bit less enthused with Every Day Is Exactly the Same. It's a pretty straightforward, just kind of 'there' track and for my money, the studio version of Love Is Not Enough through EDIETS is probably the weakest section on With Teeth.

    For me, there's a couple big problems with Everything - like how the bass / guitar lines for the verses are just so boring musically - but none that overshadows the abysmal vocals. It may be the single worst use of Trent's voice in any of his music and I say this as someone who (surprise surprise) absolutely loves his vocals. Like the choruses? Not bad. But his delivery during the verses is so unbelievably grating and cringe-worthy, it's like a parody of the worst traits of pop-punk music. And maybe that's what he was going for, using the construct of this buoyant music to display an unearned, obnoxious arrogance built on weak foundations, but musically it's just irritating and I feel like whatever he may have been TRYING to do, the reception of the track and his resulting disenchantment with it (or how people felt about it) indicates pretty clearly that it didn't work.

    I half suspect Branches/Bones recycled the drumline from Everything because he was unwilling to let whatever potential he saw in it musically go to waste, but it could just be a coincidence.

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    Branches/Bones still kicks my ass, what an opening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deacon Blackfire View Post

    I half suspect Branches/Bones recycled the drumline from Everything because he was unwilling to let whatever potential he saw in it musically go to waste, but it could just be a coincidence.
    THAT.... is my biggest issue with Branches/Bones. I recall hearing it for the first time and just thinking “you gotta be fucking kidding, more percussion that sounds like weak HM tracks?”

    Le sigh.

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    I think it’s lame that Everything never once got busted out live since that could have been a great chance to try something diffedsnt with if and different with it, and it’s the only HM song to never be played in any capacity since they used Eatsr of Dreams as a Pinion-style intro. That snippet of rehearsal audio sounded great.

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    I never saw the rehearsal vid, maybe his vocals aren’t up for it live? His voice cracks in the studio version in the opening line.

    Regardless I don’t think the majority of fans are missing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SM Rollinger View Post
    The Hate Intro is another good one (and favorite of mine).
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that just a slightly modified version of Slate (off Purest Feeling demo)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikranax View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that just a slightly modified version of Slate (off Purest Feeling demo)?
    Nope. It's something else completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    Nope. It's something else completely.
    That's fucking cool. Never heard that before. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    Nope. It's something else completely.
    Is there a page or any info for this on NINWiki? Couldn't find it on the Rare NIN Songs or Instrumentals page and had never heard or heard of it before. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pbgut View Post
    Is there a page or any info for this on NINWiki? Couldn't find it on the Rare NIN Songs or Instrumentals page and had never heard or heard of it before. Thanks!
    There doesn't appear to be. I'd be curious to know where the vocal sample came from.

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    Everything about that video is amazing. That intro is epic, and that's with average sound and in a club. Picture him tweaking that sonically & coming out to that on the types of stages he plays now. Would sound massive and stir the crowd into as much of a frenzy as is still possible considering how old most of us are now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    There doesn't appear to be. I'd be curious to know where the vocal sample came from.
    It might possibly be from the same disc of field recordings that the from HLAH are from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katara View Post
    It might possibly be from the same disc of field recordings that the from HLAH are from.
    I was more referring to the "I told you not to do this. Give me the gun." bit, but yeah, you may be right about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRoswell View Post
    Nope. It's something else completely.
    "motherfucker, I need someone to hold onto" - wow, never heard that one. And the distortion at the end of TL is pretty fucking cool as well. I want a NIN show now that revisits all of Trent's eras.

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    I’d love see a performance of “The Becoming” that transitions into “Somewhat Damaged.”

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    The Fragile Deviations 1 album inspired me to check out other instrumental versions to appreciate them in a new light. These are my favorites. It’s pretty cool to hear the little nuances you regularly miss under the vocal track!

    Capital G
    Closer
    Every Day is Exactly the Same
    All The Love In The World

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultimatebdp View Post
    The Fragile Deviations 1 album inspired me to check out other instrumental versions to appreciate them in a new light. These are my favorites. It’s pretty cool to hear the little nuances you regularly miss under the vocal track!

    Capital G
    Closer
    Every Day is Exactly the Same
    All The Love In The World
    I found an instrumental of Last taken from Rock Band. It's just as awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kulerage View Post
    I found an instrumental of Last taken from Rock Band. It's just as awesome
    This one?

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    When someone tells me they think “Closer” is too vulgar:



    [PLAYS “BIG MAN WITH A GUN.”]

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    I have been doing a "poem a day" challenge to help me get over some emotional trauma. Still in the early phases, and I'm not typically a poet, but it's been fun to scrap together random ideas. Today, I found myself writing about Trent. I felt like sharing, and reading more writing if anyone else has ever done the same.

    The Gift of the Road Trip

    In the 90s, you said that when your fullest sense of the world
    Comes from what’s programmed and
    Beamed down to your dusty, isolated, small town television set,
    The implicit message is that none of what appears on the screen
    Could ever really be
    “For you”;
    None of its images or stories

    None of its places or people
    Not even its sound
    Could ever be things you truly
    “move with.”
    I’ve always known you were right
    And I learned on my own that
    When you can never feel part of the outside
    Resentment
    Becomes a comfort
    And your four walls
    A dead womb.

    Teenaged, I watched you clear all the light from a screen.
    Your dark silhouette and the slow pull of your hand
    Cloaked the vibrant terror behind you in erasure’s dark curtain,
    Until once again you emerged
    To invert twilight into dawn.
    The dopamine drip made my limbs quiver and shake and move
    Even long after you said goodnight to the ghouls
    and your sound disappeared
    Between the red rocks.

    Ten years later, I passed your childhood town

    Unexpectedly:
    A spot in the road called Mercer, in Pennsylvania,
    Pop. 1,911.
    I stopped to see the
    Gravel roads and boarded up houses,

    The suspicious stares and a red brick school building;
    The gas stations like the ones everywhere else and
    Large confederate flags in Northern lawns.
    It was an atrophied place, lit by the glow of television.
    I laughed at my reflection
    I got the hell out
    I moved with a world

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    Hey Trent: Lindsey Buckingham is a free agent now. Just saying....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckrh View Post
    Hey Trent: Lindsey Buckingham is a free agent now. Just saying....
    Further Down the Chain?

    Second Hand That Feeds News?

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    You Make Discipline Fun

    Not That Funny Anymore
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