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    Brush your teeth, kids. You don't want them to end up as nin album artwork.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mewsick View Post
    I really like AATCHB just the way it is . The continuity issues never really bothered me, it presents a glimpse of the tour as a whole rather than a particular show. Also any sound issues or not being HD and everything, kinda reflects the chaos and imperfection of what a nin show was back then. I did always hate having to change discs mid performance though, not sure why that was necessary .
    It was necessary due to the capacity limitations of the DVD as a medium. That release predates dual-layer DVDs, which would have allowed for it to be on a single disc. I'd REALLY love for them to re-release all of the tour documentaries like what they're doing with the catalog on vinyl. Image if they surprised us with a remastered Closure, AATCHB, BYIT, and finally released Tension on blu-ray. If he's worried about not selling enough, they could make it a limited edition box set just for the fans. I'd be first in line with credit card in hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mewsick View Post
    I did always hate having to change discs mid performance though, not sure why that was necessary .
    I remember that the first time i saw AATCHB was at a Miami restaurant that converted into a club at some event called Poplife.

    Anyways, they projected the show and felt like you were in a theater. there was a group there watching and as soon as Complication ended and the break happened, it was like a punch to the groups gut and everyone was smiling like holy crap that was good... and then the next disc went in and everyone was sucked back in... it was a cool experience. But for repeat viewings, it never had that same feeling. but to people i would show it to for the first time, i think that initial shock does affect them the same way. I tended to set a theater mood when i'd show it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    Brush your teeth, kids. You don't want them to end up as nin album artwork.
    You made me think of my favorite NIN-shirt (from the ones i own):


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    Quote Originally Posted by neorev View Post

    I've seen that before (back in 2013 probably) and it's cool, but it's missing the ultra buff Trent after he got the buzz cut. We need a new one added with the sunglasses/leather jacket/gloves look too.

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    And there's also the very slim Trent with a buzz cut in 1990, and 2002 Trent when AATCHB came out. He kind of had TDS hair, but mixed with facial hair and more built, but not yet as built as 2005 TR. But either way, that was a very good find. I almost forgot about that.

    Oh shit. Ghosts I-IV and The Slip are missing too. O_O
    Last edited by Halo Infinity; 08-10-2017 at 07:52 PM. Reason: Fangora actually missed Ghosts I-IV and The Slip. Oh well. It's still a good find nonetheless. =P

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    I'd really love to hear more YZ live. I haven't heard "Me, I'm Not" or "Vessel" and I would love those. "Survivalism" is great, but it's not the best. "The Great Destroyer" would be a lot cooler if they went off script a bit during the breakdown and Atticus really just smashed some crazy glitchcore out, instead of generally copying the album sound. "In This Twilight" into "Zero-Sum" would be a really cool closer. I don't think "Hurt" should be cut, but it could come before those two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by henryeatscereal View Post
    You made me think of my favorite NIN-shirt (from the ones i own):

    Ha! This is my least favorite shirt! I have a terrible phobia about teeth. I've never been into any of the Nin artwork that includes it. I've had way too much unavoidable dental work. A family member found this shirt in a thrift store and got it for me. I smiled and said thank you but inside I was freaking out about the nightmares the shirt would give me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonic_discord View Post
    It was necessary due to the capacity limitations of the DVD as a medium. That release predates dual-layer DVDs, which would have allowed for it to be on a single disc.
    That's not true. The first dual-layer DVD was Terminator 2, released on Oct. 22, 1997. By 2002, it was super mature, and every Hollywood movie release was dual-layer.

    The point is moot anyway, because AATCHB uses dual-layer discs. I looked at it, and Disc 1 uses about 5 GiB, and Disc 2 is about 5.8 GiB. They're using a really high bitrate on the main video stream, about 9.8 Mbps. That's really close to the DVD-Video spec maximum of 10.08 Mbps. And frankly, probably unnecessary. The DVD authoring industry standard is usually to max out at about 8 Mbps. If they had just cut the bitrate about 20%, which would have made it more in-line with usual industry standards, the whole project could have fit on a single 8.5 GiB dual-layer disc, and there probably wouldn't have been any visible quality loss.

    Alternatively, as it is authored, they could have fit the entire main feature on disc one, and put all the bonus content on disc 2, but then they couldn't have been cutesy and hidden the bonus video as easter eggs.

    tl;dr I think poor authoring decisions were made.

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    While I have been used to waiting for long periods of time before each Nine Inch Nails release, this trilogy has me a bit more hyped up than usual. It can't seem to arrive any sooner. However, in spite of that, I'm also sometimes more interested in how the releases hold up afterwards, as much as I like to speculate as much as the next NIN fan. For instance, I know without the journey/process, we wouldn't have the destination/results, but the aftermath of things in general sometimes seemed to interest me much more. (Granted, it's also easy to say that once it's out there/comes to fruition and actually exists.)

    Anyway, I just want to see how the trilogy will end up and hold up in the 2020s. Either way, it's a great way for NIN to end this decade, as well as wrapping up almost 30 years since Pretty Hate Machine came out.

    (That, and I think I've been coming up with imaginary random set-lists of songs from Not The Actual Events and Add Violence *And whatever the third EP might be.* being performed side by side with songs from Pretty Hate Machine, Broken and The Downward Spiral, which I consider to be the classic trilogy.)

    Oh, and while I can see Disappointed being used to refer to the delays and debacles of Firebrand/Sandbag deliveries, the lyric that really kept coming to mind was from Last's, "I know what's coming to me is never going to arrive."
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    Has NIN become a more collaborative project now? Atticus seems to be the first legit second member of NIN...

    Sort of like with Al Jourgenson and Paul Barker in Ministry between 1986-2003

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halo Infinity View Post
    Oh, and while I can see Disappointed being used to refer to the delays and debacles of Firebrand/Sandbag deliveries, the lyric that really kept coming to mind was from Last's, "I know what's coming to me is never going to arrive."
    Lmfao you just reminded me of when someone posted when the NTAE physical component got delayed for the 90th time a huge list of song titles/lyrics being changed to show how pissed we all were about how it was late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exocet View Post
    Has NIN become a more collaborative project now? Atticus seems to be the first legit second member of NIN...
    Yeah man...it's official, and has been common knowledge for a long, long time. What rock you been under?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exocet View Post
    Has NIN become a more collaborative project now? Atticus seems to be the first legit second member of NIN...

    Sort of like with Al Jourgenson and Paul Barker in Ministry between 1986-2003
    I'd say no because it hasn't suddenly become anything, Atticus' name was on the writing credits a decade ago

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    What the hell WAS that shirt thing he was wearing in the closer video made out of, anyway? Cotton? It looked like someone took a knife to a beige granny sweater.

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    After saying last week that I don't want to pit my favorite nin songs against each other, I've decided:
    Reptile < She's Gone Away



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweeterthan View Post
    After saying last week that I don't want to pit my favorite nin songs against each other, I've decided:
    Reptile < She's Gone Away



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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    Buddy of mine just sent me this article criticizing a lot of the stuff Trent said in that recent Vulture interview: https://melmagazine.com/trent-reznor...y-ab102e6bf11b
    I'm from the 90's, and agreed with alot of Reznor's complaints. No, I don't get Drake. I get non-rock forms of music just fine. Drake's insistence on being a regular dude and establishing this with basic, boring music (not to be confused with simple, beautiful music) frustrates me. Fuck, I was within earshot of his Coachella show, it was the emperor's clothes. I don't want art to explore his themes; conspicuous consumption, hubris, false modesty. There is a real difference in 90's dwellers' seeking visceral experience and how transcendence is found, now.

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    https://youtu.be/tHMEu-8t-sc

    Just got done doing this

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    Quote Originally Posted by imail724 View Post
    Buddy of mine just sent me this article criticizing a lot of the stuff Trent said in that recent Vulture interview: https://melmagazine.com/trent-reznor...y-ab102e6bf11b
    Writer of the article sounds like a bit of a wank. Trent's answers sounded pretty balanced in that interview. He clearly stated he understood both sides of the coin, but in this day and age a balanced opinion isn't exactly something people can relate to, it seems, since most everyone thinks you either have to completely love something or outright hate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson View Post
    Writer of the article sounds like a bit of a wank. Trent's answers sounded pretty balanced in that interview. He clearly stated he understood both sides of the coin, but in this day and age a balanced opinion is exactly something people can relate to, it seems, since most everyone thinks you either have to completely love something or outright hate it.
    It's all about clickbait because journalism is in a worse state than music so they parcel up the interview with inflammatory headlines to get hits.

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    Yeah, but the rest of the article was just as inflammatory as the headline. The whole thing just seemed like a young person not liking something an older person said, because they're old and they should "get with the times." Even though, from how I understood it, Trent was saying there was something special about the way people consumed music back in the day that a lot of younger people don't get to experience because of they way the world works now, and he would like to try to give people that experience. Which is why I assume he said this:

    DIGITAL FORMATS AND STREAMING ARE GREAT AND CERTAINLY CONVENIENT, BUT THE IDEAL WAY I’D HOPE A LISTENER EXPERIENCE MY MUSIC IS TO GRAB A GREAT SET OF HEADPHONES, SIT WITH THE VINYL, DROP THE NEEDLE, HOLD THE JACKET IN YOUR HANDS LOOKING AT THE ARTWORK (WITH YOUR FUCKING PHONE TURNED OFF) AND GO ON A JOURNEY WITH ME.
    -TRENT REZNOR
    But, naturally, some people are looking to be offended by the least little thing, so they take it as an insult rather than an older person trying to share something they think might be an enjoyable experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dryalex12 View Post
    https://youtu.be/tHMEu-8t-sc

    Just got done doing this
    http://www.echoingthesound.org/commu...ETS-covers-NIN

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    didnt see it,

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    In TFE's booklet, there's a document in the background picture collage that mentions Prince of Darkness, Inc. Googled it for fun.

    https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_oh/900782
    https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_la/34497394F
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    What the hell happened?

    For over ten years NIN live has bugged me with bad spinning class habits like "Whoa!" "C'mon!" "Yeah!" "Whooo!"

    Suddenly, Add Violence comes out, and it's all gone. Gone is the all that forced fill-in-every-silence-gap with energetic lame outbursts.

    Good job, whoever helped Trent to work out those bad habits, good work, Trent, if you discovered it all by yourself.

    NIN is awesome live again.

    (The occasional YEAH! is obviously still awesome)

    P.S. Occasional, Trent.

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    I've been avoiding all set list spoilers so I really have no idea if he's been playing it. I'm really holding out hope to see "Right Where it Belongs" live.

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    Got my Add Violence t-shirt. Of the 10+ NIN shirts I own, this is definitely in the Top 3.

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    The reissues have got me thinking of this lately: it's kind of surprising how little Interscope has done to take advantage of owning the rights to most of the NIN catalogue. Setting aside the 2008 TDS vinyl reissue and the Lights in the Sky concert film debacle, it really seems like they have zero interest in doing anything with NIN, like compiling a greatest hits album on their own and shitting that out. I know they tried and that Trent wrote Everything and Satellite for that project, but once those two songs led to HM it seems like they just gave up on putting a greatest hits out. And now they seem to be assisting in the vinyl reissues, even just by letting Trent make them. Just kind of interesting considering how contentious Trent's relationship was with them for so long.

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