what I can't figure out, for the life of me, is how the man's voice changed so damn much in just a few years, like between CAD and Opiate.Originally Posted by sonic_discord
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what I can't figure out, for the life of me, is how the man's voice changed so damn much in just a few years, like between CAD and Opiate.
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Is this the studio version of "Descending"?
FB link from the band's page: https://www.facebook.com/ToolMusic/v...8192380574557/
Last edited by virushopper; 04-26-2018 at 04:20 PM.
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Some speculate its an awesome rip directly from the soundboard.
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reminds me of triad for some reason, no doubt gonna be on the new album, there’s no way they’d play this at some shows and put it on an advert for the tool clinic without it being available
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wherever its from, it sounds pretty damn polished and good, the advertising/marketing for this thing is a bit cheesy but this clean version of descending made up for it.
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Didn't listen to a clip yet (on the phone) but I vaguely remember a video on yt where some guy reconstructed Descending with his own playing (so basically a one man cover)
upd: didn't realize the video above is from official page...
Last edited by fillow; 04-27-2018 at 01:18 PM.
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nothing I haven't heard before but still, sounds amazing and can't wait.
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Definitely soundboard, and definitely the same show that follow was talking about. I think that video was from the visual maker.
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Whether it winds up on the album or not, Descending give a me high hopes for the new album. It's got that tribal, mystical, almost like "musically representing the nature of consciousness" type of sound that they discovered on Aenima and sort of perfected on Lateralus. After 25 years of being a pretty big fan, I can definitely say that particular aspect of the band is their true genius. I really don't want them to try anything that different or progress, except for possibly sounding "more like themselves" during that time period, if that makes any sense.
The new visuals are also exciting.
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Just realized with the APC tour going basically through this calendar year, puts the final nail in Tool’s 2018 coffin.
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Could ramp up and release Q4 followed by a tour in Q1.
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They don't have any dates scheduled for August, September, and most of October. Plus, they only need Maynard for recording vocals. I'd say it's still possible, but at the same time, I wouldn't hold my breath. Q4 of this year or Q1 or 2019.
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That's during harvest season. I do wonder if Maynard works musically during that time.
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Maybe, just maybe the vocals are done now...
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If he's already got the lyrics and everything written down, I wouldn't think it would take too long to track vocals down.
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They're probably going to want to tour in some capacity surrounding the album's release, so if APC have obligations the rest of the year I really can't see it coming out until early/mid-2019 now, whether all the parts are already recorded or not.
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I wonder what they got done in March when they had Maynard. The APC interviews that are from the last couple of weeks seem to insinuate that Maynard is still waiting for Tool, but I wonder in what capacity?
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Sounds like everything is written and he's waiting for them to finish recording so he can.
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Wouldn’t surprise me if Maynard recorded in AZ and had Matt Mitchell engineer like he just did with APC.
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I was nobody. Nothing.
man I hope not.
Sending files back and forth is great, but nothing can beat organic chemistry (even with instrumentals that are finished.)
Like I would prefer Maynard to TALK to the rest of the guys in person about what everyone has in mind instead of emailing each other.
"Time to put the silicon obsession down" indeed, Keenan.
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Yeah but that’s like saying no music is pure unless it’s performed completely live acapella. Since technology taints all forms of art.
Technology can inform or distract. There’s a difference between the nonstop thrill ride of modern media and the deliberate, inspiring, informative consumption and creation of music and art.
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Thats how Mike Patton records all his vocals. He has his own home studio and records his vocals on top of the finished music and sends it to the band. Its how he did the last Faith No More record and Dead Cross and last few Tomahawk albums, etc. I think the last time he was actually in a studio with a band recording must have been at least 15 years ago
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And I have loved most of those albums, but there is something to be said for doing it together, having that instant communication with the rest of the band which can spark new ideas and paths...which is somewhat lost when traditional rock bands (guitar, drums, bass, vocals) aren't with each other during the creation or recording phase. Something is lost when the vocals/lyrics are literally phoned in, in my opinion. I dont like that tool hasn't written songs together in a long time.
Last edited by EndlessLoveless; 05-05-2018 at 05:50 PM.
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Will Tool accept the facts and reality that "CDs" are a lame media for the majority of their fanbase... Releasing their new album only on CD/Vinyl would be like 'Def Leppard' releasing their new album only on cassette/vinyl.
From what I've read, Tool chooses to stay away from streaming because they "don't want their songs played out of order and all mixed up"; which I never understood because CD players are capable of skipping songs, additionally digital downloads mean I can shuffle discography.
So no matter what format, I can play in what ever order I want. There may be some monetary reasons for staying away from steaming... but APC and Puscifer are on Spotify...
Anyways, I sure hope they get onto Spotify... I simply don't play CDs, Vinyl, or MP3s anymore...
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Not coincidentally, a few years ago, Def Leppard started re-recording their major albums in the studio in order to be able to release them digitally, because - you guessed it - terrible record label contracts.
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Everclear also redid theirs and threw on some covers. There were two copies of Autolux’s debut for quite awhile after they got out of their contract. If you bought one, it went to the label. The other went directly to the band.
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Tool's presence (or lack thereof) on digital and streaming services is 100% everything to do with their antiquated recording contract. Maybe they'll be able to renegotiate or at the very least, get the new album out in the world the way everyone else is, but yeah. The whole thing is out of their control, as far as I know.
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Imagining them just making a Bandcamp account and selling it with all the artwork included and in a high resolution format.
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Drum tracking complete.
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Excuse me for my ignorance, but why would there be two drum kits in a recording session?
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